To clarify, I was meaning, meet us there as in meet us in the hotel. I still think we should all go up. If you'd like I can call a contact and see about getting us a new ride like you suggested earlier.

Oh and considering the location, Silas' sense of security proceedures hopes that he'd have some air support to get him to the roof or something because he can spot multiple disguised security measures in the lobby.

I think that depends.. if the four from inside walk, Eclipse is going to try and spot the tail. Depending on how many of them there are, it might be worth it to take care of... :O Either way!

Perception 7d6.hits(5)=3
Shadowing 8d6.hits(5)=5
Hot damn! I'm sneaky, apparently!

So, if I spot them I'll follow for a bit until I see how many and I'll send out an IC post that way. If not, Eclipse will head to the hotel and scout it out, looking for suspicious things... like black CIA vans across the street with tinted windows and/or people inside.
Perception 7d6.hits(5)=2


Congrats! I'd say a honeymoon definitely exempts you from silly things like NerdGames.

I don't think this one has been made, I'll watch for a tail, but think they have seen your faces and expect you to return to a vehicle.

Having walked we avoided that.

getting into the hotel with adequate defense options is going to be difficult,

So I'm happy to wait outside.. BUT am also happy to try and find a back entrance to sneak into, it's late... past prime kitchen hours so I don't expect to bump into a whole load of staff, but the van is tooled up with all the gear OR TW and Eclipse are going to get scanned and refused

WHoo! My ceramic pistol might actually be worth something! Take that, MAD Scanners!
Edit: Nope, still a paper weight.

I've edited my previous post, You guys will be allowed inside with normal weapons. Not the LMG though.

Are we? (Click me!)

but ..... but ......but....... aaaaaaw

Click me back

Because you are looking for it and they don't know to hide their actions from you. I'll say you notice a couple of guys getting out of one car in the parking lot to start heading in the same direction as the team, and a moment later another person gets out of the passenger side of a different car and does the same.

Oh My God. I'm glad nobody is sitting around me right now, because I totally had to laugh at that pic. Are you sure you don't want to stay in the clown makeup and then stay with the van and LMG as backup? lol

Hrm... three people is a short burst each. That's an average of 12 damage each without them dodging, probably get them before they get to react and then again on initiative. Yeah, Eclipse'll follow them, looking for a secluded area.

<<want me 2 take puppy 2 vet and cut off its tail? cuter that way>>

Fair warning, this is at least AA level security area with drone patrols, beat cops, and what not in the area. Gun fire is going to attract attention.

Silenced weapon with subsonic rounds is either -7 or -8 to be overheard. Shouldn't be that many people with 9 dice in perception (hearing) !

Edit: It's -8. -6 from the integral suppressor, -2 from the ammo. (Arsenal 153 & 35)

A body trail is still a trail, and one that makes people want to come after you wiith more firepower.

Just give us a heads up and follow them to watch our backs if you can, I guess.


Slacker, while we are walking I will keep an eye out for something that we could go through to block people following us. Something like a door or gate we could go through and then close behind us...

There is that. So, is that the plan then? the main group of team is heading up Pike street they've got 3 people pursuing them (not all in a tight group by the way, they are professionals, the first two might stay sort of close together, but the other guy is several meters behind them and acting like he doesn't know them at all....almost as if he were tailing them rather than being with them).

oh we are so boned

keep walking, we have a thousand yards to formulate a plan and communicate etc.

how fixed are you on the whole team attending this meet ? I think I have a slightly improved idea

**IDEA EDIT**

try and draw off the tails Gardner, have a meeting with a hobo in a park somewhere,

meanwhile Eclipse is backing you up,

then if TW & Mr White can slip away and meet Laurant, while Needle and I provide ground support. either picking you up in the van or covering VR for White etc.

we have a much better chance of getting away alive

Craaaap...
Judge Intentions 7d6.hits(5)=2

Aaaand... running tally!
2 votes against murdering the tail. (Gardner, Mr White)(If only there were subsonic stick'n'shock!)
1 Abstain (Eclipse)
0 For

This is a bustling part of downtown, lots of businesses you guys could go into to try to lose them in (Paris Grocerty, Highway 99 Blues Club, ZigZag Cafe, Pike Pub and Brewery - they've got some great homebrews there and their fish-n-chips are amazing, etc.). there are a few dark alleys you could detour down, but not ones with gates or doors that would be conveniently open/unlocked for you that you could close/lock behind you.

i guess I'll be in AR while we drive to the meet, scanning for anything that may come up.

I had a thought about logging on to someone's commlink. Would I be limited to their Response and such if I run programs? If so, sitting in the van is no longer an option.

The guy is obviously tailing somebody, so are the two people a few meters ahead of him. That's all you can tell from 2 hits.

I'm game for whatever, thought I will place a vote against murdering our tails. This is shadowrun. People follow us. People follow the people following us. People follow those people. At some point, we realize that we're the ones following the ones who are following the ones who are following us. Its a god damn snake eating it's tail. Fuckin' Shadowrun.




A tail is relatively harmless. I'm happy with trying to lose it, or just ignoring it.

Yeah... We'll try to lose the tail, but if it happens it happens. Let's keep things moving forward.

Everybody that is trying to lose a tail, give me either and Infiltration or Shadowing roll and tell me how you guys are trying to do this. All at once together? All at once everybody goes their separate way (in which case, who's taking Acson with them)? One person at a time leaving to see if the pursuit splits up? Or what?

I'm going to continue following the third guy, the one who might be following the other two. See if this is, in fact, Mr White's Shadowing Snake. (Which in this case may be affiliated with an actual Dragon....) If I get an opportunity, I'd like to take pictures of each of their faces with my phone and send them to Needle. I know it's unlikely, but...

IC post up.

not sure if you guys like the idea or not, but best I got.

Gardner should be very safe from harm in a public place meeting "someone" with Eclipse close by invisible to the tails in case,
while the rest of the team cover or go to meet Laurant.

just a thought

Thor's beard, you guys. 2 frickin' pages?!

Firstly: Congrats, Slacker. I'm coming up on my 10th anniversary in June, and I still remember the wedding like it was yesterday. Honeymoon's kind of a blur, but....

Secondly: TW votes not to kill the tail. Too much chance of ending up in a prison cell. Tacoma, Renton? Maybe. Barrens? Shoot them and give the corpses to the ghouls. Not Downtown. Just keep an eye on them.

Thirdly: What defines a "regular" weapon? Can I get away with the Smartgun? I remember from previous editions that it's a ridiculously concealable SMG, but 4th is kind of mum on that. I'm still going to want to grab the extra magazine for the Predator if I can't take the Smartgun.

serves you for living in deepest darkest GMT-a million get coffee and catchup, we seriously need your input on this situation

I'll allow SMGs and anything smaller. If you try bringing in an assault rifle, there could be issues.

The shell game could totally work. I just need to know who's staying to make the meet seem real and who's leaving to go to the real meet. And is Acson going to the real meet or staying in the fake one?

So anything less than +6 concealability?

again only a suggestion, but if this is not someone we fully trust, better to have him close to hand but not "right there" in cse he has another bout of "Verbal diarrhea!"

I agree... I really like the idea of the Fake Group™ going to the park and acting super spy - everyone sits at a bench on the other side of a bum, opens up a newspaper, whispers conspicuously... meanwhile, Mr White sneaks off to do the actual meet.

While the idea of a fake meet is a good one, I have to once again state that it is a bad idea to split the group up. If shit goes down at either location, we're screwed. Hard. Not to mention that Needle is going to want to be somewhere near the real one keeping a digital eye on things. And another digital eye on Acson.

Okay, so I'll go the real meet with White, and keeping Ascon with us. 3 Infiltrate doesn't give me a lot of confidence in losing a tail, and we need some muscle there in case it goes ba-well, worse. I'll take the SMG on it's sling, Predator in it's holster, and keep the Viper concealed (for all the good it'll probably do).

I'm more going by fighting power of the weapon, rather than concealability. The security personnel are going to know what you guys are carrying. They just are going to allow you to pass given that they know you are meeting one of their favored clients. Assault rifles are not a typical for downtown business meetings.

Man, I can't keep up with you lot.

You and me are in the van in the carpark opposite the hotel, Range should be fine,

I'm hoping there is a nice quiet park area with lots of light and shade, and people ... opposite or nearby where Gardner can be.

it covers the bases, and is, in my opinion better than all of us being on the 28th floor and having to fight our way out.

not so much splitting the party, as getting tactical space between us while still operating in the same theatre of war.

and as a last Edit .. That's me done for good ideas for the rest of eternity, driving home now for the usual 2 hours before a good night in with Dragon Age Origins and 2 litres of cherry coke, I'll post later guys, just to give ChromeZephyr time to get his bearings lol

Well, I could slow down, while White and Wolf, along with Acson speed up slightly. That would cause the tail to be forced to either walk directly past Gardner or else lose sight of the others. At the first opportunity, the others cut through a store or some other sight breaker to help break the tail more.

Then Gardner goes to a food court or something and starts to eat that food that he got. The tail goes "well crap" and bang, done

Edit: And no, not an actual bang...

You take all the fun out of being a street sam.

No, that'll come later. Hopefully with time to get Mishka from the van. Nothin' says lovin' like APDS at 2,900fps.

I'm not concerned about range so much as I am about line of sight. Per RAW, in order to detect a hidden node I have to either:

1. Know approximately where the node is; OR
2. Take a wild guess and waste time.

I prefer option 1. Especially when we are talking about being in a hotel parking garage for a hotel to meet someone that has their own armed force in the lobby of said hotel. I would prefer to be in the room, and the only option to do that is...

Which one of you guys wants to let me log onto your commlink's main node so I can maintain a digital presence in the room? The troll here can watch my meat body while I'm in VR scanning the scene, and I could then alert you guys to any threats that might come up. I know Slacker mentioned this already at one point, but nobody responded to it so I'm bringing it up again.

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

My 'link is horrible, but you can be there if you want.

Doesn't matter how horrible it is. I'll be logging on through my own, so I'll be using my own stats. Not sure if I need admin access or not; probably not. So long as I'm logged on and can stay in VR we're good.

Programs Running: Analyze, Edit, Exploit, Stealth, and....let's go with Decrypt for now. If I have to burn a Complex Action at some point to fire up Command or Trace, I'm fine with that.

No Response degradation until I hit 6 running programs. R/S/S/F = 5/6/6/6. All programs are Rating 6.

TW will set up an admin account for you, anyways...once you show him how, that is. No Computer skill.

Ok. The current plan seems to be:

Everybody from the restaurant is heading up Pike Avenue towards the hotel with three people tailing them and Eclipse tailing those guys in turn.

At some point along the way, Gardner will slow down to see if the tails slow down or pass him.

Meanwhile the rest of the group from the restaurant makes an attempt to lose the tail as they go around a corner.

Back at the van that is making it's way to the hotel (due to speed limits, traffic, and the circuitous route they had to take, the van wouldn't be arriving at the garage until a couple minutes before the walks get there), Needle is setting it up so that she can be logged into TundraWolf's commlink when
he goes up with the others to the meet with Laurent.

From a GM's perspective, this sounds like a reasonable plan. Is this what you guys are moving forward with?

I like it. Anyone else have something to add or change?

I like it. ...unless you can stunball or have a spirit stunball. But! As is, sounds like a plan.

Needle and Silus in van, Gardner and Eclipse right behind the guys following us, TW White and Ascon going inside to meet. Right?

Well, we'll see if the guys following us choose to try and pass Gardner. I'm assuming Eclipse can send me an image or give me a description of them. Let me know if they choose to pass me, and I'll see if I need to worry about dealing with it...

OK, once at least one more person confirms that they like this plan I'll post up something for you guys putting it into action.

Leroy Jenkins!