Full Version: Dikote
Overpriced full metal jacket.
| QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=3842) |
| No numerical benefit for Dikoting bullets, but you certainly can do it, at least with Regular and Armor Piercing ammunition. You cannot do it unless you put the ammo together yourself, however, because taking the bullets (or penetrators with APDS) out of the cases (and sabots) one by one is a major pain the ass, and then you have to put them back together again. Also, many ammo types cannot handle the heat, and might be much less effective after Dikoted (Glazers couldn't hack it, Hollow Points might not either and would be crappy with it on). |
APDS and anti-vehicular bullet cores probably use some hard coating similar to dikote anyway. Dikote wouldn't add much.
Might be useful on a barrel calibrated for it though, like a permanent teflon coating. No real in game stats though.
The point is, it isn't useful. In most cases where it wouldn't be detrimental (APDS and AV ammunition), the part that you'd want to Dikote (the penetrator) doesn't come into contact with the barrel -- and like Cray74 said these'd probably have a very hard surface anyway.
With some regular ammunition you could perhaps slightly increase penetration with this while terminal effect would not be significantly reduced. With other regular ammunition and certainly with any other ammunition type the increased penetration would come at the cost of disproportionately lowered terminal effect.
With some regular ammunition you could perhaps slightly increase penetration with this while terminal effect would not be significantly reduced. With other regular ammunition and certainly with any other ammunition type the increased penetration would come at the cost of disproportionately lowered terminal effect.
| QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) |
| The point is, it isn't useful. In most cases where it wouldn't be detrimental (APDS and AV ammunition), the part that you'd want to Dikote (the penetrator) doesn't come into contact with the barrel -- and like Cray74 said these'd probably have a very hard surface anyway. |
No I mean Dikote the inside of the barrel to reduce wear and heat from friction.
Oh, sorry. My brain's non-functional before 10 AM. Yeah, something like Dikote might be pretty nice to have on a barrel. Would flaking be a problem, though?
| QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) |
| Oh, sorry. My brain's non-functional before 10 AM. Yeah, something like Dikote might be pretty nice to have on a barrel. Would flaking be a problem, though? |
Dikoting can probably be tailored to a barrel with some interfacing layers. Real life diamond coatings do get used in drill bits, which is a pretty mechanically and thermally abusive application.
It wouldn't have any game effect, it'd just show up in bragging rights, like, "My assault rifle's barrel is good for 100,000 rounds of sustained fire," or something.
I have a friend who's character had money to burn. He paid to have his flechette ammo taken apart, all the flechettes dikoted, and repackaged. It was before I started playing so I don't know if he got any game effect out of it.
I thought flechette were like shards grated off of a solid piece of plastic?
That was in MechWarrior. Needlers.
How does SR explain them?
"several small, sharp metal fragments" (sr3.116)
Sounds like a blunderbuss.
Sounds like nonsense.
| QUOTE (Bigity) |
| I thought flechette were like shards grated off of a solid piece of plastic? |
No. In Shadowrun, they seem to be something like glazer rounds, but with small, sharp, shards of metal instead of very fine shot.
Note that in SR, flechette bullets are available to most pistols and rifles, which would make the scifi standard "shaved block of plastic" difficult to work.
And we all know just how lethal Glaser safety slugs are.
| QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) |
| And we all know just how lethal Glaser safety slugs are. |
Interesting article, at least for this factoid alone:
"Skin can present as much of an obstacle to bullet exit as 4 inches of muscle tissue."
Whoa. Maybe orthoskin should be worth a few more points of armor.
Mostly on the way out, not so much on the way in. [Edit]Damn, I really do turn illiterate after midnight. The quote already says as much -- 4" on bullet exit.[/Edit]
Flechette are really nanomachine rockets that already incorporate dikote as part of the whirling blades that tear up human flesh but get stuck in kevlar...
| QUOTE (Kanada Ten) |
| Flechette are really nanomachine rockets that already incorporate dikote as part of the whirling blades that tear up human flesh but get stuck in kevlar... |
I've found my new .sig!
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