cerberus
Jul 20 2005, 01:19 AM
Shadowrun has been CONFIRMED for the new 2nd gen Xbox.
| QUOTE |
JonnyG: To begin by introducing yourselves, what would you like to say about who you are, what games you've worked on and your current position?
Theron Benson: My name is Theron Benson; I am an Animator currently working for FASA Studios at Microsoft Game Studios.
I have worked on many projects, ranging from PC games to console, FPS to role-playing. Right now, I am animating for an Xbox 2 project called Shadowrun. It's a first-person shooter based on an old paper RPG of the same name from a couple decades ago. |
Panzergeist
Jul 20 2005, 01:26 AM
Cool. I hope it stays true to the game.
cerberus
Jul 20 2005, 01:40 AM
It will, there are alot of shadowrun fans in microsoft who have been pushing this game for a long time. It almost got made for the xbox.
Digital Heroin
Jul 20 2005, 02:46 AM
Great, now I'll have to buy the markably inferior next gen console in order to get the game I've been looking forward to for ages.
Burn in Hell, Bill... burn in Hell...
Note: I have an XBox now, and have no issues with it, but the PS3 is going to make the XBox 360 look like a kid's toy.
Nikoli
Jul 20 2005, 01:05 PM
preach on digital, preach on.
Just read some public info on the PS3, and man that thing is gonna fly.
nezumi
Jul 20 2005, 01:58 PM
| QUOTE (Digital Heroin) |
| Note: I have an XBox now, and have no issues with it, but the PS3 is going to make the XBox 360 look like a kid's toy. |
Funny, some of us were under the impression gaming consoles were SUPPOSED to be kid's toys.
CirclMastr
Jul 20 2005, 02:35 PM
This is where I pray to every deity I can think of that it at least gets a PC port.
Jrayjoker
Jul 20 2005, 02:48 PM
| QUOTE (CirclMastr @ Jul 20 2005, 09:35 AM) |
| This is where I pray to every deity I can think of that it at least gets a PC port. |
Yeah, I'm with you. I've got a few friends with consoles, but I can never get into any game on them. Give me qwerty or give me death...
Nikoli
Jul 20 2005, 02:59 PM
I'm just not going to buy a system when I won't get everything out of it. Xbox 360 and PS3 are designed for HDTV, but compatible with standard TV with the normal loss of definition for the down grade. I'm not going to pay porsche prices if I con only drive it at hospital speeds.
Digital Heroin
Jul 20 2005, 06:28 PM
| QUOTE (nezumi) |
| Funny, some of us were under the impression gaming consoles were SUPPOSED to be kid's toys. |
That's one hell of a naive statement to make, considering gaming culture has been geared more and more towards adults in the past decade. The only system that even bothers to try and appeal to kids specifically these day is the Game Cube, and even then it has its share of more adult games.
But the statement was refering to the quality of the system. The 360 is going to clock in at having a 3.6 Ghz or so processor. That's all well and good, the PS3's got that too... except it has four of them. The raw power of the PS3 is going to make owning a 360 laughable, and now I'll have to buy one to play a new SR game, that's frustrating.
Syd
Jul 20 2005, 07:27 PM
I think the more you read about Xbox 360 and PS3, the less you'll be able to make statements like "PS3 is gonna make Xbox look like a kid's toy". I'd suggest:
Microsoft's Xbox 360, Sony's PS3 - A Hardware DiscussionThe Xbox 360 and the PS3: late bloomers or complete failures?Edit: I found a copy of Anandtech's pulled article referenced at ArsTechnica.
Microsoft's Xbox 360 & Sony's PlayStation 3 - Examples of Poor CPU Performance
nezumi
Jul 20 2005, 08:00 PM
| QUOTE (Digital Heroin) |
| QUOTE (nezumi) | | Funny, some of us were under the impression gaming consoles were SUPPOSED to be kid's toys. |
That's one hell of a naive statement to make, considering gaming culture has been geared more and more towards adults in the past decade.
|
Are you honestly suggesting Microsoft is NOT actively trying to sell their product to children? Are you suggesting Microsoft sells significantly more XBoxes to the 18+ crowd than the 12-18 crowd?
Yes, it IS a children's toy. Whether it's marketed EXCLUSIVELY to children isn't really relevant. Get over it.
Aku
Jul 20 2005, 09:14 PM
| QUOTE (nezumi) |
Are you honestly suggesting Microsoft is NOT actively trying to sell their product to children? Are you suggesting Microsoft sells significantly more XBoxes to the 18+ crowd than the 12-18 crowd?
Yes, it IS a children's toy. Whether it's marketed EXCLUSIVELY to children isn't really relevant. Get over it. |
Actually, i'm going to go with DH here, in that it's a nieve statement. The video game indsustry, as a whole, and as a trend, has "grown up" with it's primary user base, generally, males, now in their 20's, that have literally GROWN UP with a console. I have owned a console since then NES first came out, when i was about 4 or 5 years old, in comparison, i dont think it was until i was 10 or so when we got our first computer and i was playing computer games as well. I have generally owned atleast two "current gen" systems, at any given point. I haf both the snes and Sega genesis, as well as a system, that i cant honestly remember the name of, that we bought at sears i think it was, that used some sort of disk technology that i think was propretiary, and the system quickly went bottoms up.
I had the PS one, the only time i can think of that i didnt have a competing system, primarily, because there wasn't one, the snes was getting late into it's cycle, the Xbox wasn't out, neither was the DS. i now own an xbox, ps2, and i just recently bought a PSP.
The point is, that i am not alone (hell, i have a 30 something friend who has all of the home systems), and to say that it is a childs toy is nieve, as they do market MORE towards adult aged than they do to childern. the only console that doesnt, as has been said, is the DS.
Panzergeist
Jul 20 2005, 09:51 PM
Of course, gaming is being driven more by software than hardware nowadays, so the operating systems are probably going to be more important. Not to mention the quality of the individual games.
Tziluthi
Jul 21 2005, 08:58 AM
| QUOTE (Digital Heroin @ Jul 19 2005, 09:46 PM) |
| Note: I have an XBox now, and have no issues with it, but the PS3 is going to make the XBox 360 look like a kid's toy. |
That comment seemed pretty funny to me as well. Very ironic. DH, the irony seems lost on you. Yes, adults play consoles, probably even more than kids do nowadays, but to suggest that consoles aren't kid's toys (as well as adult's toys)? Well, that's just plain silly.
Overwatch
Jul 21 2005, 07:41 PM
Shadowrun for the xbox 360! Yet another piece of hardware I'm going to have to buy. And of course now I'll need an HDTV, and surround sound klipsch speakers...and apparently a second job.
This must be the SOTA curve coming back to bite an SR GM in the ass.
And as far as Xbox's being childrens toy's, mine run's linux, and Media Center. It's definitely transcended the level of Tonka Trucks and Mazinger figures.
Shadow
Jul 26 2005, 09:36 PM
I would like to point out that when Splinter Cell first came out it was billed as a FPS. I think most of us would agree that a Splinter Cell like game could be very Shadowrunnish.
battler03
Aug 10 2005, 09:41 PM
Can anybody confirm:
a) whether it will be available for PC, and
b) whether it will be Live-capable?
Either would be good; the second would be especially sweet. I'm so tired of having to play some D&D knockoff to get an RPG fix (there are no non-creepy pencil and dice players in my area, so the net is the only refuge for me).
Panzergeist
Aug 10 2005, 11:53 PM
Gamespy doesn't have a PC version listed. Since it's a Microsoft console, any PC version would probably come out at least a year later, to avoid competing with the Xbox version.
Bull
Aug 11 2005, 03:16 AM
Actually, most XBox games that do come out with a PC version come out within a few months of the Console release, if not day and date with it. Some games don't get a PC release, especially if they are more "Console-oriented", specifically I'm thinking Crimson Skies, MechAssault 1&2, and Fable. All 3 can be done on the PC, but they're all really designed to work with a controller and would be awkward on a keyboard/mouse set up.
Other games, such as Knights of the Old Republic 1&2 got pretty close together release dates. Halo, on the other hand, was released for the computer a good deal later than the XBox release.
I'm actualy blanking on other X-box specific exclusives here... Damn near everything else i can think of, especially stuff that had PC and Xbox versions was also released on the PS2 or Gamecube, so that's not an entirely fair copmarison, and in many cases the PC version was released at the same time or even earlier...
Bull
Shadow
Aug 11 2005, 05:10 AM
Fable is coming to the PC. It really depends on the game and if the company that made it thinks its worth porting to the PC. If it is really successful, or the company making it chooses to cause there huge (Bioware) it will be out for the PC.
Since they are labeling it as a FPS (for now) and most of the more popular FPS games get PC and Xbox release, its a good bet we will see it for the PC eventually.
Bull
Aug 11 2005, 05:39 AM
Ahh, didn;t know that Fable was coming out on PC. Course, been a while since I was a Gamestop employee now, so I'm out of the loop a bit, especially since I don;t really play many video games.
That could actually be pretty cool, espeically if it's moddable like Morrowind was. Fable was neat, but a bit short and shallow on gameplay. I have high opes for Fable 2 though.
Bull
kryton
Aug 11 2005, 02:21 PM
One thing that may have been pointed out. (I just scanned the list) is that Microsoft may not necessarily finish the game. I'm guessing they're somewhere in the first stages of development. This is where they do the story boards, animations, some programming and start working out the nuts and bolts. There's no guarantee that it will get green lit for final production. As I understand it they have to go before the Director or VP of game development (I don't remember the exact title) and get authorization based on what they put together. This isn't the first game that's been put forward for Shadowrun. A few years ago Randy Millholland pointed out that they had plans for a SR FPS that got shit canned when the code was too clunky. I think we've still got a ways to go before we hear anything on the project. Look at Warhammer online from GW. They poured tons of cash into that and then canceled the project. I'd love to see a FPS for the Xbox or PC but we're still a long ways away from a final beta release. Mike Pondsmith worked for MSoft and can tell you all the trials and tribulations of game design. Anyways just my $0.02.
Bull
Aug 11 2005, 02:56 PM
Slight correction... Actually, the SR FPS got shit canned by FASA, not MS. From what Mike M told us at Gen Con that year, they had approved one game, and the demo's they were shown a year later bore no resemblance to that game, and barely resembled Shadowrun. He didn't go into any real specifics though, but basically it was FASA's decision to pull the plug, not MS's.
Bull
kryton
Aug 11 2005, 02:58 PM
Sorry that's right, that's before Msoft bought Fasa Interactive. So they were still an autonomous group.
Shadow
Aug 11 2005, 04:07 PM
| QUOTE (kryton) |
| Look at Warhammer online from GW. They poured tons of cash into that and then canceled the project. |
Its funny that you use that as an example. Warhammer is back on for a MMOG. The success of Dawn of War (easily one of the top selling PC games of last year) has really re-invigerated the whole genre. Both a 40k MMOG and a Fantasy MMOG are now in the works.
Bigity
Aug 12 2005, 02:19 AM
Man a Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay-based MMORPG would rock. It would have to be total PK-town though, or else it would be cheap.
Besides, we all know that GW pays for the software development by hiking the prices on the minis.
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