Hello from the CON:)

I just wanted to ask what is up with the black kilts from all the SR players?

Also, *crosses fingers* SR4 should be out today at 10, yes its noon now, but I am just getting up after staying up til 5 playing in the corporate ghost game.

So far gencon has been a blast!

To the genconmoble! to quest after the elusive book

Can't you just feel the hate?

Kill him.

Oh, no, we all love it. We're just giving it tough love.

What? This Ares Alpha? No, it's not to cause harm. It's to celebrate. Here, let me show you.

*Empties a celebratory clip into Gencon, followed by 8 celebratory grenades*

See? You can just hear the people screaming at how much they love the celebration.

Nothing says "party" like a dozen WP grenades liberally spread amongst the crowd.

~J

Been there and back.

NO fucking Limited Editions!!! So I paid $27 (Con entrance fee for 1 day) + $10 (parking) + wasted fuel driving a hundred and some miles... All to buy a crappy book for another $35.

Ha ha ha, Fanpro ROCKS!

You got it? Then why aren´t you writing a 4000 letter post telling us about it?

That.... doesn't sound good.

I hope it arrives during the weekend (in time for the Con, at least).

If not, damn.

What exactly about Shaman characters made them

Are there any (noteworthy) SR3 -> 4 conversion rules?

They would give (us all) the most change overview in the chargen system I guess ... or pretty close.

My money is on the change in the magic system. The one reason I played a shaman over a mage was easy availability of spirits. That may have changed.

How does armor work? Does it really just convert lethal damage into stun?

What are the metahuman stat modifers now?

Can you give a few examples of what the new ranged combat modifiers look like? (like for cover, or dim light, and so on)

Do technomancers need an electronic device of some sort to access the matrix, or do they just use their minds?

Are there any guidelines for playing games of various power levels? Is there any conversion info?

How does the new Dodge work?

Okay, his post on magic on the magic thread:

That makes… no… sense…

Ah well.

When you get the chance, I'd like more info on the "trails" that these devices leave. No rush, though—thanks for the intel.

~J

must wait until tomorrow ... must resist urge to leave work and drive to Indy ... must resist inevitable pull of Indiana ....


Never thought I'd say that

Cost of being magicly active seems rather low.

@ Blakkie : you are right ! I didn't see the things like that, but this makes sense. On the other hand, I was also thinking that I have never seen anybody learning (that much) new spell... But it might come of our way of gaming.

@ Tisoz : many many thanks for taking some of your time to give us this information. Hope that we are not spoiling (is it the good word ? or wasting maybe ?) your reading of this new edition... But once again, thanks !

Yeah, thanks tisoz!

Costs of being magically active:

10 BP per attribute point. If you want to get to sixty, you have to tag an additional 25 BP for that final point.

15 BP to be magically active.

Totems cost extra.

Spells are 3 BP per spell.

Now, totalling it up, that means a mage with a 5 in magic and 10 spells has paid 95 BP. That's nearly 1/4 of their total starting points if they have 400 to play with. Keep in mind that's all in addition to the rest of the costs. And I haven't even included skill costs yet.

Wait a sec, you can have a magic attribute and not be magically active, how does that work?

Magicians have the first Magic point for free.

Magician (15 BPs) gives you Magic 1. Raising it to 5 takes another 40 points. Ten spells are an additional 30. That's 85 points for what looks to be a good magician at game start.

@ Nikoli : no, from what I could understand, everybody has access to physical ant mental attributes. Then if you pay the cost to be a mgician (15BP), you can have access to the magie attribute. I think it is the same for resonnance.

wierd. so you pay your 15 and get your first magic point automatically. that's not so bad. also, it seems like having a high magic rating is not so necessary compared to the setting. and spells seem far more versatile and 5 karma in play is hella cheap compared to SR3 IMO. gee, I learned Spell "X" at force 3, I want it at Force 5 now because of Y. Now I have to learn a whole new spell and waste the time and effort for the force 3 version. (Barring house ruling). It also cleans up how cops know what force you just cast. power bolt is probably licensed regardless and treat/heal are a-okay.

Initiation costs 10 + (grade*3) karma.

what does initiation give you?

That good or bad?

Last book I had that did that fell apart in 3 weeks flat from shrinkwrap to file-13

Ya know, I just realized why it is no one ever does cost comparisons between the two systems: They would hate themselves for it.

Okay, BRP:

To get max skills or attributes, 1/2 of your points.

Magic: One quarter of your points.

Max money: One quarter of your points.

This system:

Max skills or attributes: Haven't done the math yet. However, considering that near half only gives you solid 3s, I would say more expensive.

Magic: One quarter of your points.

Max Money: One quarter of your points.

Okay, next question. What is the general guideline for Karma awards at the end of the run?