maeel
Aug 27 2005, 04:43 PM
Here i go again....
I havent found answers to the following questions and requests....
A complete list of phys. ad. powers.
a list of the vehicles in SR4 core..
Scatter rules, are they still in use?
spellcasting example.. with target resisting....
pls, pls, tell us.........
NeoJudas
Aug 27 2005, 05:06 PM
maeel ... you do realize that book owners are not entirely likely to do a major listing of the "Adept Powers" you are requesting, just as they aren't likely to do a listing of vehicles.
I can say this for you however;
4 Motorcycles/Scooters
4 Cars
1 Truck (GMC Bulldog)
1 Hovertruck
3 Military/Security (Car, Hovercraft, RCV)
3 Boats/Subs (Yacht, Sport, Minisub)
1 Winged Plane (C750)
3 Rotorcraft (Dragon, Stallion, Wasp)
2 VTOL/STOL (Banshee, FB Commuter)
12 Drones (2 Micro, 2 Mini, 2 Small, 3 Medium, 3 Large... of which the Lynx is a "Large" and the Skimmer is a "Micro")
There has been examples of Spellcasting in other forums, I've seen them.
All the PhysAd abilities:
19 in total .. all of which are either in the old BBB, 2063/64 or MITS.
Scatter Rules still exist, and are for the most part as far as I can tell basically the same thing. It is for some reason easier for me to relate to however, and after 12 some-odd plus years of SR I guess that says something.
maeel
Aug 27 2005, 05:21 PM
QUOTE (NeoJudas) |
maeel ... you do realize that book owners are not entirely likely to do a major listing of the "Adept Powers" you are requesting, just as they aren't likely to do a listing of vehicles.
|
Sure i do, but then, somebody posted a complete list of spells, so i gave it a shot...
But the info u've given me, is already very helpful....
merci bíen.....
now i just have to find this spellcasting example.......
thanx again...
hobgoblin
Aug 27 2005, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (NeoJudas) |
1 Hovertruck |
hover as in hovercraft?
hahnsoo
Aug 27 2005, 11:33 PM
Marvin the Mage has a Magic Attribute of 5 and a Spellcasting of 5. This means he rolls 10 dice on his spellcasting. He selects Sam the SecGuard as his target for the Stunbolt. He decides to go for a Force 5 Stunbolt, mostly because he's a wuss when it comes to drain and doesn't like overcasting.
On his spellcasting roll, he gets 4 hits, just above the expected average. It's his lucky day, I guess. Sam the SecGuard has a Willpower of 3 and doesn't have any Counterspelling to protect him as spell defense, so he rolls 1 hit on his resistance test (about average that he can expect).
Now we figure out the damage. The base DV is equal to the Force of the spell, which is 5. You add the net hits, which is 4 - 1 = 3 hits, thus doing 8 points of Stun damage. Since Sam the SecGuard has 10 Stun boxes (willpower of 3), he's 2 boxes away from being Knocked out.
Finally, we figure out drain. The drain for a Stunbolt is Force/2 (round down) - 1, which in this case will be a DV of 1 measly point. Marvin the Mage rolls his Willpower + Logic (being a Hermetic), which in this case is 4 + 4, or 8. He easily gets the 1 hit he needs to reduce the drain down to nothing.
Now, if he had not been such a wuss and went for the full tamale overcasting, he could have cast a Force 7 Stunbolt, and using the above example would probably knock the guard out (3 net hits) and still not take Drain (2 DV physical). Or if he feels that he absolutely needs to knock out the guard, he could go for a 9 Force Stunbolt (just below his max of 10), and guarantee a knockout, while taking 3 DV physical drain (probably reduced down to 0 or 1 boxes).
maeel
Aug 28 2005, 01:26 AM
excellent....
thx a lot...
Pandamoanyum
Aug 28 2005, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (NeoJudas) |
All the PhysAd abilities: 19 in total .. all of which are either in the old BBB, 2063/64 or MITS. |
Ok, I went through the SR4 Index pdf looking for those 19 abilities. I found 17.
Adept Abilities:
Astral Perception
Attribute Boost
Combat Sense
Critical Strike
Enhanced Perception
Great Leap
Improved Ability
Improved Physical Attribute
Improved Reflexes
Improved Sense
Killing Hands
Kinesics
Missile Parry
Mystic Armor
Pain Resistance
Rapid Healing
Voice Control
What'd I miss?
Grim
Aug 28 2005, 07:47 PM
What about a complete list of the Weapons of corerulebook? Please with the categories, and what there are.
Yes i`m a psychotic maniac with a love for cordit and bloodshed!!!
Thank you!!!!
hahnsoo
Aug 28 2005, 07:47 PM
Natural Immunity and Spell Resistance
KosherPickle
Aug 28 2005, 09:24 PM
QUOTE (Grim) |
What about a complete list of the Weapons of corerulebook? Please with the categories, and what there are.
Yes i`m a psychotic maniac with a love for cordit and bloodshed!!!
Thank you!!!! |
Could someone please post the entire pdf? That'd be really awesome.
Marc Hameleers
Aug 28 2005, 09:35 PM
LOL
DarusGrey
Aug 29 2005, 04:12 AM
Mystic armor is really cheap in SR 4... 0.5 for 1pt of ballistic *and* impact?
I can already see munchkin troll adepts with huge bodies and 20+ B/I armor at chargen.
I think I'll call him "Panzer"
Space Ghost
Aug 29 2005, 04:49 AM
Wouldn't Mystic Armor cap at Magic rating like most other adept powers?
Grim
Aug 29 2005, 08:06 AM
Sorry here in germany it will take 2 month until i can get my hands own a german exemplar of the book.
The shippingcosts for a an book from the USA are f***** high and i already have to plan forward to buy me the localized book.
But the pdf would be also nice
Wintermancer
Aug 29 2005, 08:16 AM
Yeah, importing sucks. I feel the pain whenever I buy something from Europe and have it shipped over here to the States.

Winter
Blitzen
Aug 29 2005, 08:54 AM
Speaking of the PDF index, I glaced it over and was unhappy to see the term Decker appeared a total of zero times. I may have just missed it, if so correct me, but if not do they even mention Deckers in 4th ed.
Grim
Aug 29 2005, 09:05 AM
Well, but they mentiond the Hacker on Site 19 and 206.
Maybe the Decker`s will be discussed there or maybe in the history part of the Book?
Triggerz
Aug 29 2005, 09:54 AM
QUOTE (Space Ghost) |
Wouldn't Mystic Armor cap at Magic rating like most other adept powers? |
I assume so. 6/6 is still more than a decent armo[u]r bonus though. (The u's in bracket because I couldn't decide whether to include it or not.

Languages are a wonderfully non-standard thing.)
Dashifen
Aug 29 2005, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (DarusGrey) |
Mystic armor is really cheap in SR 4... 0.5 for 1pt of ballistic *and* impact?
I can already see munchkin troll adepts with huge bodies and 20+ B/I armor at chargen.
I think I'll call him "Panzer" |
My group called him "Shield" over the weekend. Unfortunately, another character had a critical glitch and he was hit with full auto in the back from friendly fire. Didn't die, but made him realize that he's still vulnerable, which was pretty much my point, anyway
Dashifen
Aug 29 2005, 01:35 PM
QUOTE (Blitzen) |
Speaking of the PDF index, I glaced it over and was unhappy to see the term Decker appeared a total of zero times. I may have just missed it, if so correct me, but if not do they even mention Deckers in 4th ed. |
Nope. Decking is an obsolete term and is replaced entirely by hacking. Thus, it's not in the index. The word iteself might appear in the text somewhere but as there are no rules for decking anymore, it doesn't require an index entry.
Tal
Aug 29 2005, 01:50 PM
The PDF is full-text searchable, is it not?
Kagetenshi
Aug 29 2005, 02:14 PM
It is.
~J
NeoJudas
Aug 29 2005, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (Blitzen) |
Speaking of the PDF index, I glaced it over and was unhappy to see the term Decker appeared a total of zero times. I may have just missed it, if so correct me, but if not do they even mention Deckers in 4th ed. |
that *may* need to go into the Errata forum.
Tal
Aug 29 2005, 02:54 PM
Like Dash said, decker is a term used only in context now. So I wouldn't really consider it an error.
Pugwhan
Aug 29 2005, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (KosherPickle) |
Could someone please post the entire pdf? That'd be really awesome. |
It has been posted just do some searching on the various file share platforms.
mintcar
Aug 29 2005, 05:35 PM
someone managed to scan the entire book already? Gee wiz
Lady Anaka
Aug 29 2005, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Pugwhan) |
QUOTE (KosherPickle @ Aug 28 2005, 02:24 PM) | Could someone please post the entire pdf? That'd be really awesome. |
It has been posted just do some searching on the various file share platforms.
|
Or not, since the forums here have rules about promoting piracy.
NeoJudas
Aug 29 2005, 06:24 PM
Okay... now I have to rant a bit here. This folks, is technically theft as well as the proliferation of illegally transacted files I thought. I know many of us have problems with SR4 but under no circumstances should we take away from the already diminished paychecks of the staff/employees by "File Sharing the PDF" all over the web. If we do this, then we'll strip out waaaaaay too much of the ability to continue *any* form of Shadowrun.
Anyway... just an opinion/rant here. My apologies, let's get back to topics
Grim
Aug 29 2005, 06:31 PM
Well i think to write down all the nice tools.
But it would be nice here something about the Shotguns (found only the Mossberg in the Index) and the Heavy Guns.
Hasaku
Aug 29 2005, 07:26 PM
Who could have uploaded the pdf already? How many people have a pre-release copy? They should have done that...thing. You know, where you put in data that identifies it but goes unnoticed by the user. Like a watermark. Shit, I can't remember the name of it.
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 29 2005, 07:29 PM
Comments?

If there is really a scan out there, this is about the worst thing that could happen in conjunction with the delay of the PDF...
blakkie
Aug 29 2005, 07:30 PM
QUOTE (Hasaku) |
Who could have uploaded the pdf already? How many people have a pre-release copy? They should have done that...thing. You know, where you put in data that identifies it but goes unnoticed by the user. Like a watermark. Shit, I can't remember the name of it. |
He is likely refering to "a PDF", not "the PDF". A substandard scan.
Triggerz
Aug 29 2005, 11:43 PM
In an ideal world, if you were planning to buy it, then it shouldn't really matter if you get "a PDF" while waiting for "the PDF", as long as you actually buy it once it's out. It could even give SR4 some publicity and win some new fans that way. BUT... We aren't exactly living in an ideal world. The flesh is weak...

P.S. I'll wait for the real thing.
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