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Zen Shooter01
It seems like every swinging d!ck on the boards is either a software programmer or a patriotic killer, so I thought I'd run this poll for fun and edification. cool.gif
tirsales
It's difficult to choose an appropriate answear. I am a student - but I earn my money with computers. Studying is not paying my bills - so should I choose computer? Or should I choose student - because it consumes most of my time?
Triggerz
White collar AND academic? I'm working full-time for the Canadian government this summer while working toward my M.A. in Economics.

I'm a peace-loving, tree-hugging Canadian and in no way a patriotic killer.

Finally, I avoided a career in programming, but just barely: it was a close call. wink.gif I was pretty good at it in highschool though and I'm still a big-time gadget freak.
blakkie
Tear-assing around in the mud in 4x4. Yes, some people actually manage to swing making a job out of that. wink.gif
Zen Shooter01
Tirsales: Perhaps you don't know that the phrase "make a living" is a colloquialism for "earn the money that you need to buy necessities"?

I am a patriotic killer, but strictly amateur. cool.gif
Zen Shooter01
Blakkie, I'd call that blue collar.
tweak
I'm a finance guy that does supply chain and sales forecasts and budgets.

tweak
Clyde
Blakkie:

Teach me! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Kagetenshi
If you really meant "make a living", why did you bother to include "student" under Academic?

Me, I'm a Computers-Academic-Artist (writer and actor), but the only one of the three that's ever paid any bills is Computers.

~J
blakkie
QUOTE (Zen Shooter01)
Blakkie, I'd call that blue collar.

I'd call it a hobby that i get paid for. grinbig.gif There are some other things i do, things i like to think of as incidental wink.gif, that puts the job somewhere in the grey region between white and blue. Or would that be a baby blue region?
Req
I suppose "gene therapy researcher" is academic, if I work for a university...
Zen Shooter01
Kagetenshi: I included "student" to cover people who are really living on loans, grants, and/or their parents' money while they go to college. They might be doing 15 hours a week at the beer drivethrough, but really they're professional students.
blakkie
QUOTE (Clyde)
Blakkie:

Teach me! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Think "environmental". You don't even have to sacrifice the cash if you get into the right areas and are good at what you do and/or have strong skills from a different background that you can figure out how to apply.
6thDragon
Full-time student, but work a blue collar, warehouse, job 20 hours a week while going to school, and I spent nine years in the military (embassy duty and counter-intelligence) I probably know the least about computers out of all of us...
Nerbert
Full time student, part time, literally blue collar, University Security. Leaves lots of time for 3rd shift dumpshocking when I'm stuck at the radio dispatch station.
Zen Shooter01
Hey, Nerbert...I did campus security at Kent State University for four years cool.gif
Nerbert
*high five*
tweak
I all ways found the folks that worked security to know gaming material better than anyone else.

tweak
FlakJacket
QUOTE (Zen Shooter01)
Hey, Nerbert...I did campus security at Kent State University for four years cool.gif

You ever get to shoot any hippies? wink.gif
Nerbert
A lot of the folks I work with are into WoW. But I have yet to meet any P&P gamers. Thought its possible that they're just in hiding.
Grinder
I'm a teacher for mental handicaped people. Voted "Blue Colar". And i study Public Health (BA), starting at october.
So sorry, no computers and no weapons here. biggrin.gif
Marc Hameleers
Well, i work with mentally hadicapped people too!

Not as a tacher, but in day care for the elderly among them.

Marc, newbie
Catsnightmare
I started Blue Collar, then went to law enforcement/civic service and part time blue collar, worked my way up to Computers for a year then got knocked down on my ass and have been Blue Collar again ever since for the past 8 or 9 years.
blakkie
QUOTE (Marc Hameleers)
Well, i work with mentally hadicapped people too!

Not as a tacher, but in day care for the elderly among them.

Marc, newbie

What a coincidence, i post on a messageboard with mentally handicapped people! wink.gif
Zen Shooter01
Flakjacket:

No, but I was area advisor for library security in 1998, which basically means head of library security. The Kent State library is I think twelve stories tall, biggest building in the county, and holds the administration offices, including the president's office.

There is a student organization at KSU called the May 4th Task Force. Every year, we'd get a day off classes on May 4th, and the Task Force would organize a memorial/sing-along/anti-war protest (whether we had a war or not) in memory of the May 4th, 1970, shootings.

In the mid-seventies, the school had built a parking lot on a grassy area where three of the dead had fallen. There had been protests at the time, but they had not succeeding in preventing the parking lot from going in.

Well, for some reason, in 1998, this old controversy got reheated, and the May 4th Task Force and its allies wanted the individual parking spaces that now lay over the spots where the dead had hit the ground to be set off as memorials, never again to be used to store automobiles.

So, on May 4th, 1998, they marched on the president's offices with their demands. I was at work to oversee my end of this siege, with one of my subordinates and a squad of KSU PD cops (the cops did not take orders from or much notice of my lowly student-security self). As may not surprise anyone, the hippy army had shitty information security, and we knew what they were going to do before they did. So when about three or four hundred of them marched resolutely to the library, we had the doors locked.

Some patrons of the library criticized us for trampling on freedom of speech. I told them that anyone who wanted to hear what the protesters had to say could go right out into the quad and listen until their bladder overflowed; anyone who wanted to hear their message could watch it on the television news; I had hundreds of patrons and staff who were trying to work and study and carry on the business of the university, and I wasn't going to let that become impossible because four hundred Joan Baez fans (who, by the way, included Ron Kovic himself as the keynote speaker of the May 4th observances that year) were singing Kumbayaa in the lobby.

We opened and closed one door at regular intervals to let patrons in and out in small groups. We repelled a few infiltration attempts (two girls with pierced belly buttons, one football player, one skinny guy with no bookbag in a Bob Marley T-shirt and a boonie hat, saying cheerfully to us, "Fight the power, man!" Which one of these is different from the others?)

The President did allow a small delegation to meet with her. They were successful. Today, three parking spaces are set off with little lights, and little triangular pieces of marble in one corner, set flush with the asphalt, bearing the name of the dead.

True story.


Fortune
Where's the option for Welfare Bum ... er, I mean Retired?
Ancient History
Fortune! My oldest friend!
Velocity
QUOTE (Triggerz)
White collar AND academic? I'm working full-time for the Canadian government this summer while working toward my M.A. in Economics.

Sounds like my situation--mind if I ask where you work?
apollo124
Used to be Patriotic Ass Kicker, in the Navy for 9 years, then got out to real life, and straight into Blue Collar hell as a forklift driver.
Nikoli
Well, lately it's computers mostly, though that is technically white collar if you do it for a bank, which I do. though in the beginning I not only worked for a bank fixing computers, I made change at a porn store and bounced at a goth/industrial club on the nights and weekends.

Now I just fix computers. I miss bouncing though, it's fun when people offer you their date in exchance for continuing to have sex in the club, even if you don't accept.
Derek
16 years (so far) USMC, working in military intelligence (and no, that's not an oxymoron)

Derek
apollo124
QUOTE (Derek)
16 years (so far) USMC, working in military intelligence (and no, that's not an oxymoron)

Derek

Sure it is, Derek. Marine and intelligence in the same sentence rotfl.gif rotfl.gif

In truth, I knew quite a few Marines when I was in the Navy. There are IMO only two types:
1st enlistment mini-Rambos
2nd and further enlistment guys who actually have their shit together.
Fortune
QUOTE (Ancient History)
Fortune! My oldest friend!

I am really starting to see the need for a 'decrepit smiley'. nyahnyah.gif wink.gif
Shadow
Former Patriotic killer (497 trans, and 2cnd Ranger Bat- Huah!) turned failed student (damn you Evercrack) turned computer guy. Which is what I am doing now for the State Of Alaska. It only took 6 years to get a decent paying job.
Omega Skip
Uhm, does working in the games industry count as Computers, Academic, Artist, or White Collar? question.gif
Xiad
You didn't have a category in there for the medical field, unless you include us in 'white collar'?

-Xiad DDS
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Xiad)
You didn't have a category in there for the medical field, unless you include us in 'white collar'?

-Xiad DDS

definitely classified as white collar.

I think he's categorizing anything that lands you in an office, or equivalent, as white collar.
Omega Skip
Meh... white collar, then.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (Shadow)
Former Patriotic killer (497 trans, and 2cnd Ranger Bat- Huah!) turned failed student (damn you Evercrack) turned computer guy. Which is what I am doing now for the State Of Alaska. It only took 6 years to get a decent paying job.

You probably have less competition up there, though wink.gif

~J
Shadow
True. Very true. An ape with a banana has a more impressive resume than half the workers up here.
Mercer
I'm the only Asskicker on the boards? By profession I mean. I'm sure you're all asskickers preserving your amateur status, maybe for an Olympic run.

But you know, as a former USMC infantryman (0311) and a current doorman, there's very little asskicking to it. Its mainly being able to talk to people and getting them to understand that doing something (not coming in, leaving, not fighting, paying their tab) is whats best for all involved. Its a business, and there's no real benefit to roughing up the customer base. (I find being sarcastic is a lot more effective than attempting to be physically threatening.)
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