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 Dec 7 2010, 02:40 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437  |
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Dec 7 2010, 11:35 AM)  Kick is Unarmed Combat only and whips, no matter if tied to the feet or not, are Exotic Weapons. But the idea is awesome. A Street Samurai with hands on their feets holding a monofilamente whip? Do I smell a General Grievous here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) Edit: Ok, I'm brainstorming about this now, tonight when I get home I'll take a look of what I can do with this. |
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Dec 7 2010, 02:45 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Or you go the SURGE/Geneware route with Monkey Paws.
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Dec 7 2010, 02:54 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
Might be doable too. A SURGED Adept with monkey paws and shiva Arms...
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Dec 7 2010, 03:00 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The drawback is that anything else than the primary hand suffers the offhand modifier.
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Dec 7 2010, 03:13 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Medicineman @ Dec 7 2010, 04:31 PM) The point is the Thought of using Krav Maga for Bows and Arrows Krav Maga is just a name they gave to that particular set of advantages, it even list a couple other arts that have exactly the same benefits. If he's using it only for bows, you could just use a name of some bow shooting art instead of krav mage. |
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Dec 7 2010, 03:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
Krav Maga is a pragmatic, living MA. If suddenly bows become viable weapons again, Krav Maga can be expanded with techniques to use bows more effectively. Why not?
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Dec 7 2010, 08:05 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Dec 7 2010, 11:13 AM) ... If he's using it only for bows, you could just use a name of some bow shooting art instead of krav mage. You're right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Maybe I'm too much into Martial Arts I wouldn't Mind at all if it would be called ....Dai-Kyutsu f.e. and then with the same Advantages for Bows (but Bows only !) but Krav Maga is (for Me) with Handguns and Knifes ,thats it Hough ! Medicineman |
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Dec 8 2010, 12:21 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Dec 7 2010, 08:00 AM) The drawback is that anything else than the primary hand suffers the offhand modifier. Unless, of course, you take Off-Hand Training... Solved, all Off-Hands are now at no penalty... |
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Dec 8 2010, 01:08 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
You still can't kick with a whip.
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Dec 8 2010, 03:42 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Dec 7 2010, 06:08 PM) You still can't kick with a whip. T'is True... |
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Dec 12 2010, 12:01 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 4-December 10 Member No.: 19,203 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Dec 6 2010, 11:45 AM) Krav Maga is actually based on using any weapon that you may come across, so restricting it to pistols is not in keeping with the spirit of the martial art itself. There's a school near my house and first day students are learning knife and gun disarms, breakfalls, and standing from prone without hands. In fact, with a little research you'll actually find that Krav is one of the very original martial arts - the Hebrew slaves taught Krav to Pharoe's bodyguards who the Greeks learned aspects of it from and turned it into pankration, then spread that around the world (eventually becoming virtually every modern-known martial art). So yeah, Krav Maga is powerful because it was basically the first. I wouldn't say it was the FIRST martial art (there are a few from Africa, China and India that are very old themselves) but I do agree with the spirit of the art itself. I do, however, end up with the same question of overpowering that others do with this art. |
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Dec 12 2010, 02:08 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649 |
A martial art first developed in the post WWI era does not even come close to being "First"
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Dec 12 2010, 04:43 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
Agreed. People have fought the world over and so virtually every culture has had warriors. But without some form of continuity in regards to training standards and the like it's really rather useless and imprecise to start applying the name Krav Maga to whatever Jews throughout history fought like at any given time. It'd be similar to me claiming that the time I punched a guy in the ear is descended from the traditions of Aztec or Viking warrior culture. I mean, yeah, sure, I'm half Mexican and a quarter Norwegian, but really it just seemed like a good idea at the time.
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Dec 12 2010, 07:01 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
It'd be great if Neraph would come back and say something, anything, about his "first martial art" claim. Like even just sharing a web site or something.
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Dec 12 2010, 08:34 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Dec 12 2010, 02:01 PM) It'd be great if Neraph would come back and say something, anything, about his "first martial art" claim. Like even just sharing a web site or something. More than likely it's personal research for a book "I'm about to publish." </reference to the last two extraordinary claims I've heard*> *One was "I met a dragon in Iraq and it asked me to write its memoir." And the other was "books predating the invention of writing describing dragons in detail." |
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Dec 13 2010, 02:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 471 Joined: 7-November 10 Member No.: 19,155 |
QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Dec 12 2010, 09:43 AM) Agreed. People have fought the world over and so virtually every culture has had warriors. But without some form of continuity in regards to training standards and the like it's really rather useless and imprecise to start applying the name Krav Maga to whatever Jews throughout history fought like at any given time. It'd be similar to me claiming that the time I punched a guy in the ear is descended from the traditions of Aztec or Viking warrior culture. I mean, yeah, sure, I'm half Mexican and a quarter Norwegian, but really it just seemed like a good idea at the time. Clearly it is descended from the legendary Mixed Viking/Aztec Martial Art, Hrimgarouatl. This is the original martial art of the American Native people, coming from a fusion of Erik the Red's teachings and those of his companion Acolaua, developed during Erik's years in El Dorado. As to the question of the relative power of Krav Maga in Shadowrun - yeah, it seems pretty darn good. |
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Dec 13 2010, 05:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 772 Joined: 12-December 07 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 14,589 |
QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Dec 6 2010, 11:17 PM) Haha. Called shots. They are useful, and powerful. Now, how does one get more free actions to take aim at range, called shot and draw your pistol sized weapon before firing? Because unless you can do all that, Krav Maga isn`t the be all end all of abilities. Multitasking adapt power with a 'Focus' reality amplifier??? Yeah, I wouldn't allow it in my game either. QUOTE (Draco18s @ Dec 12 2010, 04:34 PM) *One was "I met a dragon in Iraq and it asked me to write its memoir." Because that country doesn't have enough problems? |
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Dec 13 2010, 05:47 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Fortinbras @ Dec 13 2010, 12:29 AM) Because that country doesn't have enough problems? Just add one God-fearing,* Sinner-eating, fire-breathing, flying reptile into the mix. *By which I mean the Christian god. |
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Dec 13 2010, 05:52 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Isn't that exactly what happens at Armageddon? Insert a God-fearing, Sinner-eating dragon into the Middle East? Sounds like it's not worth the trouble. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 13 2010, 03:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 12-July 10 Member No.: 18,814 |
QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 12 2010, 09:08 AM) A martial art first developed in the post WWI era does not even come close to being "First" Maybe he was confusing when the style iself was developed with when some of the techniques used were developed. Most martial arts are a mix of techniques from older martial arts, but I'm sure they can all claim roots back to the first time a caveman punched another caveman in the face. |
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Dec 13 2010, 04:00 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Dec 13 2010, 12:52 AM) Isn't that exactly what happens at Armageddon? Insert a God-fearing, Sinner-eating dragon into the Middle East? Sounds like it's not worth the trouble. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Lets just say that the two of us (I and the supposed writer of the dragon's memoirs) got along swimmingly. Like gasoline and matches. He was actually-banned from the forum, I voluntarily quit as I realized that I didn't like the forum and the only reason I'd stuck around was to try and get a hold of a friend (who, at this point, I'm convinced has thrown away his computer, as he isn't online anywhere anymore). |
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Dec 14 2010, 12:26 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Dec 13 2010, 02:52 AM) Isn't that exactly what happens at Armageddon? Insert a God-fearing, Sinner-eating dragon into the Middle East? Sounds like it's not worth the trouble. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You mean "Armageddon, the End Times are here"? Great game, great setting, too bad I lent it to a friend and the book disappeared in his black hole he calls home... |
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Dec 14 2010, 02:35 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
On that note, Brazilian_Shinobi, have you heard about ArMEGAddon? It's Armageddon, except MEGA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/414/ArMEGAddon
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Dec 14 2010, 03:13 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Dec 13 2010, 09:35 PM) On that note, Brazilian_Shinobi, have you heard about ArMEGAddon? It's Armageddon, except MEGA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/414/ArMEGAddon Nice, that was awesome. |
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Dec 14 2010, 03:54 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Dec 13 2010, 11:35 PM) On that note, Brazilian_Shinobi, have you heard about ArMEGAddon? It's Armageddon, except MEGA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/414/ArMEGAddon You know, never watch funny videos with a flu, it just makes you feel worse while you try to laugh and cough at the same time, your throat was not built for this... |
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