Our club is an affiliate of a larger regional (multi state) club. Also we're not Hell's Angels flavored, we're Motorcycle Club flavored. Today you'll find several non-criminal Motorcycle Clubs with most of the things my groups Club has. Oh, and we didn't start out nearly as formal as we are now.

Read my post on my take of where the iconography comes from. It's not just the big gangs that have these things, even smaller ones do.

Now, if they are outright ripping off their Patch/Colours, then that would be a different thing and grounds for a very serious beat down. But it sounds like they have original designs for the most part. (Wait, just read InfinityzeN's latest post, it's almost surely an original design.).


Thanks. I try to ensure that I use the right terminology, it comes from my Tech Support years and being a Gun Nut Researcher (As a Canadian, it's unlikely I'll ever be able to actually own firearms.).

It was fun to write and go back through a happier moment in my childhood. I probably got a few things wrong (I got hit in the head a lot as a child. And a teenager. And in my early 20s. Glad I grew out of that.), and can only go off of what the Grey Beards taught me...

You have to be careful with what you find online for info, and stuff from the media. Both of those tend have some extremely serious filters on them due to the negative perceptions that Bikers have, or are from the Bikers themselves and are tilted towards showing themselves in a overly positive light in response. Getting it while in the Culture probably gets you closer to the truth. Less reason to exaggerate.

I'm on my phone, so no tons of text this time. I'll post Edge up in his current form later, along with some background and history. Also the reason I've been giving so much info is because I got almost none for my game when I asked for some help. I wanted to make the learning curve easier.

here's one you might laugh at. Edge is stuck owning or managing nearly 50 pieces of property, hanger ons, and sweet butts. My group, even the ladies, seems to take some twisted joy in sticking me with more of them. Hell, I don't know if I got 4 ol ladies, 4 pieces of personal property, or some mix of that. You try handling the problems of 50 women, 4 of which live with you.

Nice, it's "Big Love" meets "Sons of Anarchy"...

And how are conflicts between the various Go-Gangs typically resolved? We're going to be based in Turin, but running tech and such to Genoa, which is described as being Gangland until you get to the docks (our typical destination). I figure we'll run into resistance along the way. So how do we deal with that resistance? Is it gonna be a chase/gunfight every time we try and make a delivery, or will there be (aggressive) negotiations alongside the autostrada, or will we race for it, or what? I'm planning on having a fast car (scavenged from the Hole, natch) but not one with a lot of guns or armor, so if it goes violent I'll basically have to run away - is this a viable plan? Does it depend on my group?

Thanks for the wealth of information and great answers guys.

It depends a lot of the gang you will be facing. Genreally speaking, the more powerful and able to handle a violent confrontation, the more likely you are to be able to negotiate some kind of truce or agreement.

I think you will need first to secure a base turf, an area that is acknowledged as yours. An area you can defend, where you can retreat and regroup if necessary, store and repair hardware and reserve heavy firepower in case of a "s**t-hit-the fan" emergency, protect wounded members, this kind of things. As for the resident of the area, you will probably have to choose between racketing them ("pay or else...") or effectively protecting the area and try to generate some goddwill and support.

You may be able to strike an alliance with other minor gangs for mutual protection against the heaier hitters in the area. It will probably break down relatively fast, but it can buy you time to expand and consolidate your position.

Street racing against other similar gangs is also a way to earn respect and attract new members. It can also serve as a way to settle disputes without a full blown gang war - the looser of the race has to back down (just make sure you are powerful enough that it would cost them more to break the agreement than to respect it !).

Show respect & negotiate from a position of strength, or don't get caught. Those are the ways to handle it. Also depending on how much traffic is through an area, you might have a fairly high chance of not running into the go-gang who controls it. Normal gangs normally don't cause problems for go-gangs passing through, unless your doing something that cuts into their biz (running drugs and passing through a gang that sells drugs turf).

So in order of how you should handle most things skipping any steps you can't fulfill: Don't get caught, show respect/non-compete, back them down by power, negotiate from a position of strength, negotiate from even base, negotiate from a weaker position (have to give up something for sure), competition (fist fight/dual/race), pinpoint violence (assassinate), controlled violence (drive by), violence (raid), war (mix of the 3 violence types), open war (kill em all)

Hey, I'm not the reason that "Ol' Dirty" patch came into existance or anything. Wait... errrr... maybe I am.

zeN, would you mind posting your club's charter? I'd be interested to see it, as we might be modelling it after yours.

Shit man, you going to make me type all that up? Have you actually tried searching for something like MC bylaws? Lots of current MC will post their bylaws to give you something to work with.

You need to give your purpose, membership requirements, executive board information (duties, what they can do without calling an executive or general vote), meetings/voting information, headquarters, cut/colors, control of cut/colors (the we will kill you if you copy us, get kicked out and take colors, don't' remove tattoos, etc), conduct/duties of members, Discipline/Due Process/Loss of Membership, Resignation/Death of Executive Board/Members (so and so dies/quits, so and so replaces them), Removal of Officers, associate membership (also honorary membership, trusted friends, etc), amendments (how to add), Executive Board has all other rights.

A list of the founders and charter members should also be at the very end.

Ah, I didn't realize they followed a standard format like that. We'll be able to put one together, I think, with what you've provided.

Anybody got name suggestions? We're going with Scuderia instead of Motorcycle Club because we're a bunch of Italian F1 fanatics, and we drive cars, not ride motorcycles. But beyond that we're stumped.

Figure out the founding principles of your club and pick something that fits. Or just something cool sounding.

Motorcycle Clubs are kind of like the Shriners with less hygiene and more violence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Forgive my ignorance, but what are the Shriners?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriners

Huh, so that's who those guys are. I suspect we're going to be somewhat more serious, what with the whole 'stealing cars and running tech to live' thing. On that note, I just rewatched the first Fast and the Furious (the new one, not the one from the fifties) and is it just me or is that a deeper movie than the later ones (okay, two and three, I haven't seen four, having basically given up on the series by then) - deeper acting, deeper themes, and such, or am I just reading too much into what isn't said and filling in blanks?

Yea, the themes and acting are a little deeper. Of course, they still speak complete crap when talking about anything technical. And their use of "NOS"* seems more based on the Need for Speed video games than anything else.

*NOS is a company, Nitrous Oxide Systems. Calling it that instead of Nitrous, juice, or the bottle will pretty much destroy your cred.

And there's the famous "Motec system exhaust" line. But that's more a general problem with Hollywood than a specific problem with The Fast And The Furious.

It's a problem with the idiots, period. Like the morons that think the racing stripe makes it go faster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I wish I was kidding.

But, yeah, Hollywood is great for revolvers that fire a dozen bullets, cars blowing up, and computers.

Just... I can't watch a Hollywood movie computer scene without wanting to crawl into a corner and cry. But that's mainly because I've done tech support and have had way too many people go, "Well, that's not how it works on TV/This Movie/Whatever."

And then sometimes, the support guy can do something from the movies, and the customer just can't get it through their head. "No, I'll be remotely controlling your computer from here..." "but I need you to send a technician..."

As long as your cars don't say "Powered by PIAA" I think we'll be okay...

Hey Whiskey, I built you an F1 car in the Red Bull X1 thread.

Excellent, I'll check that out!

OK, now I have an idea for a European Go-Gang that uses armed and armoured F-1 Racers.

And a CAS Go-Gang made up of former NASCAR racers.

A scoot gang in the UK, whose leader is an escaped clone of Morrissey?

They'd better not have right turns on their territory.