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post Feb 8 2011, 02:29 AM
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I was rereading the wire damage and noticed it is entirely misguided in the use. Barbed wire is to deter animals from moving through the fence. Concertina wire is to entangle and expose someone so they are unable to move while being fired on. Neither of these wires are going to kill you unless you somehow entangle your throat and rub your neck along the wire (or blood poisoning). I feel that instead the damage should be 2S for barbed wire and 3S for concertina wire. Characters have to also pass a threshold of 1 for barbed wire to move through the wire and 2 for concertina wire per meter pushed through or over. Until a character has passed through the wire they are unable to dodge or parry. I feel this is a better representation of the wire.

Concertina wire must be cut or a shaped charge used to remove it as an obstacle.
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- Omenowl   Barbed wire and its lethality   Feb 8 2011, 02:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Maybe it's sharper in the future. Also, everyo...   Feb 8 2011, 02:46 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 7 2011, 08:46 PM)...   Feb 8 2011, 02:49 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 07:29 PM) I ...   Feb 8 2011, 02:53 AM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 7 2011, 09...   Feb 9 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 9 2011, 08:21 A...   Feb 9 2011, 07:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The pistol gets net hits, AP, and special ammo. 5P...   Feb 8 2011, 03:03 AM
- - Omenowl   I felt it should be damage per turn until they ext...   Feb 8 2011, 03:03 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 08:03 PM) I ...   Feb 8 2011, 03:07 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 08:03 PM) I ...   Feb 8 2011, 07:13 AM
- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 8 2011, 03...   Feb 8 2011, 03:10 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Feb 7 2011, 08:10 PM) Oh...   Feb 8 2011, 03:13 AM
- - jaellot   The farm stuff leaves wicked scars, too. I scar ba...   Feb 8 2011, 03:28 AM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, I have a friend who wiped out on an ATV and ...   Feb 8 2011, 03:37 AM
- - Fortinbras   It's not so broken that it requires additional...   Feb 8 2011, 06:34 AM
- - CanRay   There's also a difference in the way the wire ...   Feb 8 2011, 07:49 AM
- - Mardrax   Electrified concertina wire? It wasn't coincid...   Feb 8 2011, 08:37 AM
- - CanRay   Barbed wire.   Feb 8 2011, 08:45 AM
- - Mardrax   Ah. A farmer's favourite indeed. Be glad you j...   Feb 8 2011, 11:13 AM
- - Stahlseele   i hate electrified fences that are supposed to kee...   Feb 8 2011, 02:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I saw that movie, great scene. Are there rules f...   Feb 8 2011, 02:55 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 8 2011, 03:55 PM)...   Feb 8 2011, 06:15 PM
- - CanRay   Consider it a taser if it's low amperage. Let...   Feb 8 2011, 04:07 PM
- - jaellot   The goats we used to have could duck under it fast...   Feb 8 2011, 05:48 PM
- - Omenowl   Most electrified fences use pulses. You definitel...   Feb 9 2011, 01:31 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 9 2011, 02:31 AM) Mo...   Feb 9 2011, 05:44 AM
- - CanRay   Yeah, I can't say the times I was zapped were ...   Feb 9 2011, 02:03 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 8 2011, 06:03 PM) ...   Feb 9 2011, 02:54 AM
- - CanRay   35 people IIRC, all of age, one an instructor supp...   Feb 9 2011, 03:17 AM
- - Faraday   What the hell were you people doing? O_o   Feb 9 2011, 03:30 AM
- - CanRay   Working on robots in High School. I was in the ad...   Feb 9 2011, 04:01 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 8 2011, 08:01 PM) Wor...   Feb 9 2011, 04:07 AM
- - CanRay   Yeah... Yes it was. Hindsight, I think he though...   Feb 9 2011, 04:09 AM
- - phlapjack77   don't try to put a new plug on a dryer with th...   Feb 9 2011, 08:56 AM
- - phlapjack77   see? It even makes you double post   Feb 9 2011, 08:56 AM
- - Omenowl   I have only been hit by the 3 joule electric fence...   Feb 9 2011, 03:08 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 9 2011, 10:08 AM) I ...   Feb 9 2011, 06:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   But I just met 'er! … -alore. :/   Feb 9 2011, 03:25 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 9 2011, 10:25 AM)...   Feb 9 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 9 2011, 03:35 P...   Feb 9 2011, 06:23 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 01:23 PM) ...   Feb 9 2011, 06:40 PM
- - KarmaInferno   On the ground, dropping a heavy metal plate across...   Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM
|- - jaellot   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Feb 9 2011, 10:32 A...   Feb 9 2011, 03:42 PM
||- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (jaellot @ Feb 9 2011, 04:42 PM) Do...   Feb 9 2011, 05:33 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Feb 9 2011, 08:32 A...   Feb 10 2011, 12:56 AM
- - CanRay   If it's thick enough, you can use the floor ma...   Feb 9 2011, 04:35 PM
- - CanRay   Wish that had been the case in some of my classes....   Feb 9 2011, 06:14 PM
- - CanRay   Doc, that was beautiful!   Feb 9 2011, 06:28 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 9 2011, 07:28 PM) Doc...   Feb 9 2011, 06:29 PM
- - CanRay   Hey, I wasn't sure I would be able to get ...   Feb 9 2011, 06:33 PM
- - Doc Chase   The company's being audited today, so writing ...   Feb 9 2011, 06:40 PM
- - CanRay   Hell, you're making art. That's never a w...   Feb 9 2011, 06:43 PM
- - Doc Chase   I'll have to edit it a bit more, but as a roug...   Feb 9 2011, 06:56 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 11:56 AM) ...   Feb 9 2011, 07:38 PM
- - TeknoDragon   Traditional barbed wire, not quite as bad as 5P fo...   Feb 9 2011, 08:18 PM
- - Stahlseele   it would melt.   Feb 9 2011, 08:19 PM
|- - TeknoDragon   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 9 2011, 03:19 PM)...   Feb 9 2011, 10:39 PM
- - Xahn Borealis   Possessed monowire, with ItNW and Energy Aura and ...   Feb 9 2011, 08:33 PM
- - pbangarth   I have little experience with coiled concertina wi...   Feb 9 2011, 08:53 PM
- - WhiskeyMac   Being a combat engineer, laying concertina wire an...   Feb 9 2011, 10:34 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (WhiskeyMac @ Feb 9 2011, 03:34 PM)...   Feb 9 2011, 11:07 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Feb 9 2011, 03:23 PM) ...   Feb 9 2011, 11:07 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Feb 9 2011, 04...   Feb 9 2011, 11:10 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Feb 9 2011, 11...   Feb 9 2011, 11:50 PM
- - CanRay   Yeah, but who does a job properly any more?   Feb 10 2011, 02:37 AM
- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 7 2011, 06:29 PM) I ...   Feb 10 2011, 05:38 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 9 2011, 11:38 ...   Feb 10 2011, 11:59 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 10 2011, 04:59 AM) E...   Feb 10 2011, 01:52 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Feb 10 2011, 07...   Feb 10 2011, 11:13 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Indeed. As I also said, 5P isn't hurting anyon...   Feb 10 2011, 03:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm sure I already said it, but the guns get +...   Feb 10 2011, 11:17 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 05:17 PM...   Feb 10 2011, 11:27 PM
- - Yerameyahu   And I'm saying, the only people in the game ar...   Feb 10 2011, 11:44 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 05:44 PM...   Feb 11 2011, 12:08 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Nope, bullets will have net hits. It's not l...   Feb 11 2011, 12:17 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 06:17 PM...   Feb 11 2011, 12:33 AM
- - Sephiroth   Because death is cheap in Shadowrun, and corporate...   Feb 11 2011, 12:18 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Feb 10 2011, 06:18 PM)...   Feb 11 2011, 12:34 AM
|- - Sephiroth   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Feb 10 2011, 08:34 PM) H...   Feb 11 2011, 12:44 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I think you'll find that suppressive fire is t...   Feb 11 2011, 12:38 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That does make sense. No reason to assume that SR4...   Feb 11 2011, 12:50 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 06:50 PM...   Feb 11 2011, 02:27 AM
- - Yerameyahu   So, you're saying that the razor wire of SR4 i...   Feb 11 2011, 02:40 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Feb 10 2011, 08:40 PM...   Feb 11 2011, 05:28 AM
- - Whipstitch   It's all dikoted. /thread   Feb 11 2011, 02:48 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Feb 10 2011, 06:48 PM...   Feb 11 2011, 03:04 AM
- - CanRay   I never got to play with dikote...   Feb 11 2011, 03:32 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's just good parenting. You'd shoot yo...   Feb 11 2011, 03:55 AM
- - CanRay   No, I'd shoot someone else's eye out. And...   Feb 11 2011, 03:57 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Feb 10 2011, 07:57 PM) No...   Feb 11 2011, 04:17 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No, see, child labor laws.   Feb 11 2011, 04:26 AM
- - Fortinbras   Have you seen Awakened cows?!?! Barbed wir...   Feb 11 2011, 06:35 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   hell-bovine stampede!   Feb 11 2011, 06:38 AM
- - InfinityzeN   Having extensive personal experience with razor wi...   Feb 11 2011, 10:28 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Feb 11 2011, 06:28 P...   Feb 11 2011, 10:47 PM
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|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Feb 12 2011, 01:26 AM)...   Feb 12 2011, 05:54 AM
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- - CanRay   I remember a story that was going around about a R...   Feb 12 2011, 06:14 AM
- - CanRay   And sometimes it causes double-posts.   Feb 12 2011, 06:14 AM
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