Maybe... Regeneration does throw a little wrench in the works (since it magically repairsmost any damage), but I don't think it should work completely. Maybe slow down the effects of malnourishment, however the GM handles it, but I wouldn't let it stave it off completely.

That can't be the RAI, even if you could strongarm RAW into it (do we even have rules for blood loss?)

But hey, why couldn't you just buy donor blood/rejected donor blood?

Does Regeneration protect you from blood-borne diseases?

Even if it doesn't, Vampires get immunity to toxins and pathogens, too. (Yay to magicx2 as hardened armour against diseases)

So you can comfortably subsist on blood rejected by the hospital for being diseased (or just feed on bums in the Barrens who won't be missed.)

that'd be too easy and not give us enough reason to bicker ^^

Do watch out you're not giving AIDS to the entire barren population. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'd try and find a shifter 'friend'.

dude, it's a vampire . . who the hell still cares about aids?
there's much worse to go around in 2075 . .

I'd assume Immunity to toxins/pathogens implies their super regenerative immune system just eradicates all foreign bodies, as opposed to the more typical "oh because you're undead". So I don't think they can be a carrier of any diseases.

Anyway I'm not sure what the issue here is, they lose essence once a month but can Essence Drain their essence up to twice it's current value. So a vampire PC could, during downtime, seduce and drain a point from 6 women he meets in bars and he'd be set for the next 6 months. Twice a year you woo or mug a half dozen people. They have a dietary requirement of blood but any blood will do, even type O vat made stuff. So really no issue there beyond some factor into the cost of their lifestyle.

It's really as much a non-issue for a Shadowrunner as the ghoul's diet. The whole typical vampire feeding/hunting nonsense is completely sidelined and all that's left is the "I'm Infected and will have issues from normal society over that". I'm not sure what the several pages of angst even is, being a vampire is no different than being a troll or an elf, it's a staple of fantasy lore put in a cyberpunk setting.



Lol, actually the vampire IS the disease that's much worse than AIDS going around in 2075 =P

Thankfully, HMHVV isn't infectious from vampires unless they will it so.
And alright, call it VITAS then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

vitas is hard to transmit, seeing how those who have vitas usually die within days . .

Yeah, but they're infectious as hell while they're still breathing....

Again, this is an optional rule. Just like the option to let critters have non-delta implants, it does not automatically apply to each vampire in the universe.

PS: Just read the rule again, it says "the character is assumed to receive sufficient metahuman blood or flesh to satisfy his dietary requirement", not "to get his calories each day" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

"Dietary requirement" is what they need to survive. That should include caloric intake.

It does not, that's what we are talking about. Besides the need for human blood/flesh/bones, infected also have to eat like everyone else, since eating 5% (or even just 1, depending on which rule you use) of your body weight a month does not a full stomach make.

Combined with the fact that most infected can't hold down anything else than raw meat or blood (not necessarily human, though), that requires some ingenuity. The ghouls in Chicago for example have large pig farms to provide them with enough raw meat, and upscale stores should also sell real meat. But where do you get enough blood, without arousing attention?

Assuming the blood can be non-human, one could get it from almost anywhere. There are likely lots of places that will sell off what they can to make a little money on the side, so a butcher shop (or pig farm) would collect the blood to sell to interested parties, even if they have to do it under-the-table.

Sure, problem is there are not many butchers and pig farms, since most people eat soy, customers who can afford real meat on a regular basis make up a tiny percentage of the population.


But to be productive, how about this:
According to the lifestyle rules in RC, necessities on "High" (2000 ¥/Month) means "You eat real food prepared by drones or metahuman staff and indulge in high-priced real chocolate and milk". So simply change the requirement for the "Infected lifestyle" optional rule to High necessities (instead of Middle), meaning the subject will pay 2000 ¥/Month to get real meat/blood, and another 600 ¥ to pay some crooked doctor for some real metahuman tissue.

Yep, that would work for me.

Which is why their Lifestyle Costs increase. Not sure why you are arguing this. They get their Blood, and their regular food. Easy Peasy.

Or do you make your normal characters actually roleplay out their feeding habits at the Noodle Boy Shop, too?

Yeah, I think I'm gonna stay out of this for the time being....

I posit that the life of a shadowrunner is quite ideal for a vampire who isnt well-connected or rich. You were gonna kill that security guard anyway, why not take a minute or two and feed on his essence?

That also is a possibility. Assuming your team doen't geek you for doing so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's like comparing buying Aspirin to acquiring a container of Ringu. Food for Infected is not something readily available, so unless the player has a good concept how his character gets his meals (money, connections...), I wouldn't let him off the hook that easily. It's a negative quality which defines the character like few other qualities do, why should the player be allowed to ignore it with a simply 300 ¥ payment?

In that case, ask him to take a contact at a blood bank or something. That way he's got the on-sheet background for how he's paying for it.

Blood shouldn't be too hard to get.. any butcher has large volumes of it. If you have the money, it shouldn't be a problem.

Now, a vampire without any money, that guy's in trouble. But any vampire who's made it through the first few years is probably wealthy now. Just as a matter of natural selection.

It is a Racial Quality, not a Negative Quality... They are different you know... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
As for the availability of Blood. Just costs an extra 30% to your lifestyle. Done.
The fact that you wish to screw over the player, for something you would totally ignore for another, says volumes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)