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Crazy Ivan
post Aug 3 2011, 05:44 PM
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Ok, I was never really initially impressed by the Move By Wire reflex system, since while I thought the skillwire system idea integration was cool, I didn't think the +1 Dodge and +2 Reaction were worth it. Then as I was making a prime runner for one of my campaigns using Nebulars awesome Chummer program, I relented and installed a set (Rating 2), then got really confused. I asked my wife, who has a good head on her shoulders regarding rules and interpretations of such things, and we can't figure out what exactly is meant by the writing...

Is the system (+1 Dodge and +2 Reaction, +1 Initiative Pass)/Rating or is it +1 IP per rating plus a set value of +1 Dodge and +2 Reaction?

If it is the former, I owe the Move-By-Wire system a huge apology...
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- Crazy Ivan   Move By Wire question   Aug 3 2011, 05:44 PM
- - Sengir   Get a sixpack and apologize   Aug 3 2011, 06:14 PM
- - Crazy Ivan   And here I was thinking MBW was over-priced...Hell...   Aug 3 2011, 06:32 PM
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|- - Patrick Goodman   QUOTE (Crazy Ivan @ Aug 3 2011, 01:32 PM)...   Aug 6 2011, 05:19 PM
- - Machiavelli   Welcome in the world of powergaming...^^   Aug 3 2011, 06:53 PM
- - Crazy Ivan   yeah, thats crazy   Aug 3 2011, 06:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's identical to Wired Reflexes, plus Dodge a...   Aug 3 2011, 07:04 PM
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- - Yerameyahu   Ah, sorry. I forgot. I just remember how incredib...   Aug 3 2011, 07:19 PM
- - Summerstorm   Aye... extra-actions. Level 3 had a simple action...   Aug 3 2011, 07:33 PM
- - UmaroVI   What's funny is that MBW is the essence-friend...   Aug 3 2011, 08:21 PM
|- - Crazy Ivan   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 3 2011, 04:21 PM) Wh...   Aug 3 2011, 09:30 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 3 2011, 04:21 PM) Wh...   Aug 4 2011, 06:22 PM
|- - Mongoose   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Aug 3 2011, 09:21 PM) it...   Aug 6 2011, 02:49 PM
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- - KarmaInferno   Having what amounts to a mod chip in the brain is ...   Aug 6 2011, 03:13 PM
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- - KarmaInferno   Wired Reflexes used to do that to you too, back in...   Aug 6 2011, 03:33 PM
- - longbowrocks   QUOTE (Crazy Ivan @ Aug 3 2011, 10:44 AM)...   Aug 6 2011, 03:41 PM
- - CanRay   Wired Reflexes still should do the "Kill some...   Aug 6 2011, 03:42 PM
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