Cryo-Lock Pistol

This small black pistol, which can comfortably slip into the pocket of a trench coat, fires ice slugs. Ice slugs are bullets of pure water-ice accelerated to supersonic speed by a captive jacket, driven down the barrel by a sequenced ripple of magnetic fields. Ice slugs do as much damage as metal or ceramic bullets, but when they shatter into the body, their fragments melt away invisibly, making this an exceptionally untraceable assassin’s weapon. This weapon can be reloaded or recharged at any reasonably fresh water source with an Extended Logic + Armorer (2) Test, with an Interval of 1 Minute. After being refilled, the weapon's DV is permanently reduced by one; the specially purified ice slugs that it comes with work best. Spare clips for a cryo-lock weapon cannot be purchased separately; they effectively have the same cost as the firearm itself, as much of that cost pays for the specially designed, refrigerated magazine. The cryo-lock pistol is considered to have Electronic Firing as a standard upgrade and cannot be upgraded further except with an external smartgun system or laser sight. A cryo-lock pistol can obviously load only its own ammunition.

Heavy Pistol | Damage 5P (cold)| AP -2 | SA | RC 1 | 12 ( c ) | 12F | 2,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Colt Ouroboros:

An update for the venerable Colt Asp model, the Ouroboros is a medium caliber revolver that can also use the lighter caliber version of the rounds it's chambered for. Extensively tested in every part of the Earth accessible, and in space, it has proven to be one of the most reliable swing-out cylinder designs ever created. Called "The Best Wheelgun Ever Made Since The Peacemaker" by Captain Paul Hardeski, Lone Star Security's current leader in arrests and convictions in ten cities that Lone Star provides service for. The Ouroboros is available in various calibers, finishes (Blued Steel is standard), and barrel lengths straight from the factory, along with a large selection of pistol grips (Including the new stock of vat-grown walnut wood DNA as advertised in the Fall 2072 edition of the "Firearms and Mercs" E-Zine). A number of aftermarket modifications that are available for the Colt Asp are also compatible with the Colt Ouroboros. The Colt Ouroboros cannot mount a standard silencer.

Colt Ouroboros:
Damage: 4P/5P
Mode: SA/SS
RC: -
Ammo: 6 (cy)
Availability: 4R
Cost: 200¥

> Yes, it's a Colt design, yes it was extensively tested, yes it's marketed out the wazoo to compete with the Taurus Multi-6. It was also the basis for over two dozen shadowruns to either destroy the design, steal it for Eastern European goverment factories, more to steal it back, five from various arms companies to destroy the files and kill the designers to keep it from market, and a few from Colt just to check their own security. It earns the name Ouroboros well, many 'Runner Teams ate their own tail trying to deal with this firearm.
> Truth

> For once, the conspiracy nutbar is right. Broken analog clocks and all that, I guess. The only jobs I handled (Yes, I did some) was putting it through it's paces under "Deniable Combat Situations", or Shadowruns if you prefer. A few suggestions for design changes were made, including infrared posts on the sights for those who see in that kind of vision to make for easier target acquisition in the dark. About the only place this revolver won't work is underwater. The design is more reliable and available (in North America at least) than the Taurus Multi-6, and it's styling allows it to fit in with a variety of outfits for those that are fashionable (The Matte Black goes well with a Tux or the infamous Little Black Dress, or can be sandblasted and not have a shine for combat situations.). The Steel Ouroboros is coming down the line as well, in solid stainless steel for those that are near high salt concentrations and have to worry about rust. Also good for constant concealed carry as sweat can cause a rusting issue at times.
> Money

> Do you work for Colt or something? You sold it better than their marketing shown above!
> Rick O'Shey

> I own stock in Colt, I will admit that. And the marketing above is just a blurb from a much larger spiel. But I got some test models through, um, back channels and tested it personally against the more refined production-model Taurus Multi-6. No comparison, I'm going with the Colt on the rare occasions I carry a revolver. Stock options don't help when you're dead.
> Money

> OK, I can't fault that kind of reasoning.
> Rick O'Shey

A chunk of ice has AP -2? Also, the Mythbusters busted ice bullets. They disintegrate in the barrel, and what comes out is a mixture of burning propellant and steam.

If you actually read the write up you will see that the ice slugs were fired via magnetic sequence.. What happens to the captive jacket though.. if that gets left behind there is that little bit of evidence..

One could make something more akin to a Gauss crossbow than a Gauss rifle: it's a metal lever that gets accelerated, not the projectile itself. Then there is no need for a jacket. And it's even easier than a crossbow to reload: just revert the magnetic fields (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe that's what the OP meant by "captive" jacket.

Unless the gun acted kinda like a sling shot and the captive jacket just stayed in the gun to be reused by the next bullet. Although I would image that would reduce the speed that the bullet would be able to leave the barrel, I guess.

Take it up with Alastair Reynolds; he invented it, I just statted it. (It's one of many cool and fairly innovative firearms introduced in Chasm City, which I feel is the best and not-coincidentally most self-contained of his novels that I've seen.)

I know it may be a bit beyond the technology level of Shadowrun, where the smallest gauss weapon/railgun available is the monstrous Ares Thunderstruck, although I'm still not clear on what exactly 'myoelectric' firing means a la Sakura Fubuki.



It is a very very fast chunk of ice.

GUYS! This is not a discussion thread! Open a new one if you feel the need to discuss ice bullets!

Nice... I imagine it can fire larger caliber bullets at 5P at SS instead of 4P at SA? I didn't notice it mentioned above. Also, maybe making Extreme Environmental Adaptation a stock mod would fit the shadowtalk on it, although I think the price would go up a bit.

5P at SS, 4P at SA, to account for the recoil. Using lighter ammo is also easier on the frame and cylinder, which is why a number of police departments equipped their forces with .357 Magnum Revolvers but issued .38 S&W Bullets (Back when a ".38 Murphy" was all a cop needed.). As for the Extreme Environmental Adaptation, those were the test models which are usually overbuilt to what became the cheaper production specifications. Remember, Shadowtalk isn't always correct, and Money would be quite upset when he gets a production model and finds it didn't stand up to what the test models did when he used them.

But a good suggestion, indeed! I think the Steel Ouroboros would have EEA as a mod to account for it's stronger design. Might write that up later.

Colt Steel Ouroboros:

For the premier and definitive revolver lover, the Steel Ouroboros is Colt's newest all-stainless steel alloy revolver, adapted and re-visioned with the demands of our customers in mind. Built on the same tested and true frame as the Colt Ouroboros, this personal and home defense pistol incorporates the latest technologies to allow it to stay reliable in the harshest of conditions that can be experienced by man on Earth, and guaranteed by Colt to never rust for the life of the pistol. Available in a number of barrel lengths straight from the factory, the Steel Ouroboros also comes with the latest in synthetic grips, a variety of hammers and sights, and can be engraved at the customer's request at twice the listed cost. The Colt Steel Ouroboros has Extreme Environment Modification 1, and cannot mount a standard silencer.

Colt Steel Ouroboros:
Damage: 4P/5P
Mode: SA/SS
RC: -
Ammo: 6 (cy)
Availability: 8R
Cost: 275¥

> OK, before people yell at me about what I said about the stock version of this revolver, remember that I said I was using the test models. Apparently Colt cheaped out on the production models to save money and didn't include things like the dry lubricant dispersion system that was one of the damn thing's main selling point! Needless to say, stockholders who were part of the testing group, and were quoted in magazines, journals, and Black BBSes were quite livid about "false advertising". (Never thought I'd agree with a Lone Star agent on anything in my life.). To make up for this, I gave Rick O'Shey's team each a Production Steel Ouroboros to test out as they went to some really bad drekholes, to shoot people in the face for money or whatever it was they were doing there. Never let it be said I don't back up my word, and everyone here knows he's not about to break his word for anything. If you don't, take it up with him personally, but e-mail me first so I know where to send the flowers.
> Money

> OK, a Mr. J hands you a pistol, you're thinking something's up. Hope you don't take this wrong, Money, but we checked these things out as much as metahumanly possible before using them, and even did some work on the barrel and changed the firing pins just to be sure, as well as did a bit more work on the serial numbers. We started with some dunk and fires, dirt drop and shoots, dragged them behind the Growler for a few miles and checked them out. Basically treated them like Kalashnikovs when the Russian Reds were testing them for the first time. And that was before we went on the 'Runs! Well, all that abuse, and desert storms, Amazonian jungles, the worst strip club I've ever been in could only cause a single misfire, which my armorer insists was more likely to be the ammo than the pistol. Looks like Colt did right on these babies. The only thing I don't like about them is the finish, too damned shiny, even after the drag in the dust. If you're staying in the city and don't have it next to your body, you can make due with the regular Colt Ouroboros. If you're going to hell, and need a back-up you can depend on, go with the Colt Steel Ouroboros.
> Rick O'Shey

> I'd be offended if you didn't do those things, Rick. Thanks for proving me right.
> Money

> I got my mitts on one of these with Troll size grips, hammer, and trigger guard. Haven't tested them like Rick did, but they're working just fine for me. The steel design is also pretty flash and can be an advantage in intimidation and influence when dealing with a certain crowd (Wageslaves), but most real street monsters have had so many weapons pulled on them they won't care. I am, however, going to get the regular Colt Ouroboros in Matte Black and sandblast it down like Money suggested before for 'Runs where I need something that won't reflect the least bit of light. I'm not going back to any jungle but the concrete type for a long time, so I won't need the extreme toughness. I also like Walnut grips better, which the Steel Ouroboros doesn't come in (Special order only.).
> Tiny Trog

EEA 1 is only 100 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) , and if you're not going to do the full EEA 2 (the shadowtalk for the gun didn't include everything) you can make some custom level like "functions like EEA 2 but with no XYZ" and make it like 1.5x cost of the gun or somesuch.

Not a thread for discussion on things, post more custom stuff! (That said, the discussion did get me to write the Steel Ouroboros. I couldn't sleep last night.).

Here's a taste of my list:

Survival Gear


Chainsword


Freeze Grenade


And probably one of my favorites:
Death Squirrel

Flexicloth
Armor Upgrade
Capacity: 3 slots
Availability: +4
Cost: +1000 nuyen

Benefit: When all armor being worn is upgraded with the Flexicloth option, your armor's value for the purposes of determining encumbrance is halved. Flexicloth may not be put on any piece of armor that has an armor rating higher than 6, and must be applied to all armor, including SecureTech PPP and Form Fitting Body Armor if either are worn. Flexicloth only has an effect as long as your total armor rating not including Form Fitting Body Armor is 6 or less. If your armor exceeds that value, the Flexicloth has no effect and you face normal encumbrance.

Example:





Note: This is intended to replace the softweave armor from WAR! While I don't think any interaction between the two would break it, the goal with this upgrade was to do what Softweave was supposed to do: Make armor viable for lower body characters, but without giving high body characters ludicrous armor potential.

Put them all in a ZIP, upload it to a site like MediaFire and post the link here. I'd love to take a look.

Except that ice is not ferrous, and does not react to magnetic fields.

Ice with iron filings?

...

Damnit, now you have me doing it!

The iron filings would be left behind in the wound tract, defeating the purpose of the "vanishing, evidenceless" bullet.

There's also the fact that ice, no matter how fast it's moving, is still ice. As soon as it hits a solid surface (say, body armor) it's going to break up. Even if you could get a chunk of ice moving at bulletlike velocity, I don't believe it would inflict anything like the damage a metal slug would, and certainly would not be able to penetrate armor. If you shot somebody through the eye socket into the brain at point-blank range, you might be able to kill them. That's about it.

The captive jacket, specified in the OP, is ferrous and does react to magnetic fields. I imagine it being discarded shortly after the round leaves the barrel, almost in the same manner as a shotgun shell, only it leaves the barrel, not an ejection port, and it disintegrates into meaningless metallic fragments, not a recognizable shell casing. Either that or the captive jacket is like a slingshot and integral to the firing mechanism. Either way, obviously it should be stressed that this thing could not be built with currently existing technology. Much like...everything in Shadowrun. (Ares Redline, 'nuff said.)

The rationale for the Armor Penetration is twofold. One, modern body armor is not designed to stop ice; why would it be. Two, the ice is actually cold enough to cause damage through, for want of a better word, conduction, even if armor prevents it from transferring its kinetic energy. (Obviously, armor that is insulated would help.) Even if a bullet hits you and the armor flattens it you still feel the impact even if you are protected; but in this case, that impact would be compounded by a cold sufficient to inflict tissue damage. So even if it doesn't penetrate into your body, you still had something moving at bullet speeds with a temperature of about -200 Degrees Celsius slam into your body conferring extreme pain, shock, and tissue damage.

I meant to mention in the OP that it does Cold damage, not standard ballistic damage.

Perhaps ice should be statted using flechette rules, in which case the damage would increase to 7P(f) and the AP would worsen to +5. I could definitely see that as a valid argument. However...



I strongly believe that if ice railguns were real, even if they could not penetrate armor, they could penetrate your skull at about five feet. Even if it did not penetrate, you would almost certainly have permanent, debilitating brain damage from the impact, like being shot in the head with a rubber bullet only worse.

ICE BULLETS ICE BULLETS ICE BULLETS.

/tangent

I think i have a small list of paracritters - check my SIG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

The original write-up only talks about ice and doesn't mention anythink about it being super duper frozen.

So it has an AP -Half-2, holy hell thats almost as good as the gauss rifles AP.

Eh...I've posted this a couple times here and there. Might as well put it here as well. Designed as more hype than for actual effectiveness.

I created some of my own terms for the sake of clarity among weapon property descriptions.


Shiawase Armaments Mythic Line
This new line of electronically firing weapons utilizes a special loading mechanism in each of its weapons. A breach loading system where the weapon opens at the rear of the barrel, and an ammo tube which fills the rear portion of the barrel is removed. The ammo tube is a lightweight composite material designed to withstand the high pressures created from the gun and create a tight seal with the breach and barrel of the weapon. Ammo tubes can be easily preloaded with the case-less ammunition, but does taking longer than loading standard clips. Modern case-less ammunition is far less fragile than its predecessors, but still must be loaded with care lest the round be damaged during loading. When loading the ammo tubes into the weapon through the breach mechanism, a number of tubes can be loaded as a complex action equal to (Agility / 2).

When it comes to recoil, these weapons can fire at such high rates that many bullets can be fired before any recoil is felt at all by firer and any barrel lift is noticed. All of the following weapons have the capability of firing UltraFast Bursts (UFB). When firing a UFB, the recoil is applied to the following attack instead. However, since the recoil of all the bullets is felt simultaneously, any uncompensated recoil is doubled. To help compensate for that, the barrel and tube assembly uses a special hydraulic system that not only provides pressure to maintain the breach seal, but also provides one (1) point of recoil compensation.

Many of the weapons capable of fully automatic fire also have the ability to fire in high velocity firing modes. Such weapons are given the HV firing mode designation.

Some weapons also have unique firing modes due to their barrel arrangements or other factors. Such weapons have a SPECIAL firing mode designation.

As state of the art weapons, all are designed with an integral smartgun system to allow greater control for the wielder, and are treated as having the electronic firing modification. Being completely electronically controlled, the daring may attempt to modify the firing computers to allow faster or additional firing rates that are not listed. For example, a cunning individual could modify the Cerberus Heavy Pistol to fire standard bursts, as well as giving it full auto capability. They could also design it to fire all of its rounds with a single trigger pull in only a split-second. The later mod however would be certain suicide however as the barrels are not designed to be able to withstand the amount of pressure such an action would produce. Any modification that causes the weapon to fire more than 3 rounds as a UFB forces the user to make an edge test every time the weapon is fired with a threshold equal to (number of rounds fired). Failure indicates a breach seal failure and ignites all remaining rounds in the barrel without first firing their boost charges, causing the rounds to remain in the barrel or even fire through the breached seal and causing a potentially lethal blow back. The weapon explodes dealing (4 + number of rounds fired)P damage to the wielder and is resisted with Ballistic armor.

Since these are specially designed prototype releases that have very exact specifications, they only accept [3] capacity worth of modifications. However, any Firing selection change mods have no materials or capacity cost and just require the extended test to perform the modification. Any barrel mounted accessories must be specially designed, tripling their cost (for each barrel).



Chimera
Assault Rifle __________________ 6P _________ -1 _______ SA/BF/FA/UFB/HV __________ 16(b) x2
Shotgun _____________________ 7P _________ -1 _______ SA/BF/UFB ________________ 5(b)
Grenade launcher __________ as grenade ________________ SA ______________________ 3(b)

This prototype assault rifle is built in a bullpup configuration that has 3 barrels placed in an over-under design, with the top two
barrels being the same caliber and nearly the same length (the top barrel is set one half inch farther) and the third barrel being
larger caliber and coming approximately 3 inches shorter. Rather than using a standard magazine, the bullets are stacked in-line in
each of the top two barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast short bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as
caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with fresh ammo tubes using a breach loading system opening at the rear of
the butt. The third barrel uses the same firing and loading mechanism but is interchangeable as either a shotgun or micro-grenade
launcher and can be changed on the fly, in the field.
The AR function can fire in Semi-auto, Burst-fire or Full auto modes. In addition, it has the capability of firing short
UFBs. In this setting, the Chimera can only fire narrow bursts. The Chimera can also be set in a High Velocity mode. Since all
firing modes are electronically controlled, changing the mode to any configuration can be done quickly through the use of the
smartlink as a free action.
The shotgun may also use the UFB function. Like the AR, it can only fire narrow bursts, but uncompensated burst recoil is
tripled instead of doubled.


Cerberus
Heavy Pistol ___________ 5P ________ -1 _____________SA/UFB __________________ 5(b) x3

This prototype heavy pistol uses a unique 3 barrel design, placed in an inverted triangular pattern. Rather than using a
standard magazine, the bullets are stacked in-line in each of the three barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast
short bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with
fresh ammo tubes using a breach loading system. The Cerberus may only fire narrow burst.


Hydra
Light Pistol __________ 4P ________ -- ___________ SA/BF/UFB/SPECIAL _________ 5(b) x5

This prototype light pistol is the Cross counter to the Yamaha Sakura Fubuki. The unique design uses 5 barrels stacked
vertically. Rather than using a standard magazine, the bullets are stacked in-line in each of the 5 barrels which allows for the
firing of ultra-fast bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced
with fresh ammo tubes using a breach loading system.
It also has a special Long Burst mode but fires 5 rounds (1 from each barrel) for each burst instead of 6 for a +4 DV a
recoil penalty of -4. The Hydra can only fire narrow burst (short or long bursts).



Hydra LE
Machine Pistol ______ 4P ______ - ___________ SA/BF/UFB/FA/HV/SPECIAL __________ 7(b) x5

This prototype machine pistol is a modified version of the Hydra Light Pistol with a slightly larger profile and detachable
folding stock. The unique design uses 5 barrels stacked vertically. Rather than using a standard magazine, the bullets are stacked
in-line in each of the 5 barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast short bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes
(counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with fresh ammo tubes using a breach loading system.
The Hydra LE has all the normal firing modes as listed as well as one additional ultra-fast short burst (UFB) setting.
In this setting, the Hydra can only fire narrow burst (short bursts), but fires 5 rounds for each burst instead of 3 for a +4 DV
(and -4 recoil penalty). It still uses normal burst fire recoil rules.
The Hydra LE also has the capability to function as a High Velocity weapon.


Orthrus
Sniper Rifle _________ 7P ___________ -3 ________ SA/BF/UFB __________ 5(b) x2

This prototype sniper rifle utilizes a unique design featuring 2 barrels placed side-by-side, though an over-under configuration has been proposed as a future porduction model. Rather than using a standard magazine, the bullets are stacked in-line in each of the 2 barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast short bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with fresh ammo tubes using a breach
loading system.
The Orthrus has all the normal firing modes as listed as well as one additional ultra-fast burst (UFB) setting. In this
setting, the Orthrus can only fire narrow bursts. Includes a specialized imaging scope and smartgun system that corrects the minor
differences in trajectories for each barrel. It utilizes the advanced smartgun system, along with an improved range-finder to adjust the barrels in/out/up/down based on detected range of sited/locked target.


Balaur
Shotgun _______ 7P ________ -1 __________ SA/BF/UFB/FA _______________ 6(b) x3
Grenade ____ As grenade ________________ SA/BF/UFB __________________ 4(b) x3

This prototype shotgun uses a unique 3 barrel design, placed in an inverted triangular pattern. Rather than using a
standard magazine, the rounds are stacked in-line in each of the three barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast short
bursts. Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with fresh ammo
tubes using a breach loading system.
The Balaur has all the normal firing modes as listed as well as one additional ultra-fast burst (UFB) setting.
In this setting, the Balaur can only fire narrow bursts. The Balaur can fire slug or flechettes. A special choke switch can adjust
each of the 3 barrels simultaneously or individually, and can be done either manually or through the smartlink.
The Balaur may come with an optional set of replacement barrels that allow it to fire Micro-grenades. The shotgun and grenade barrels can be used simultaneously and interchangeably. However, using a mixed load out disables the UFB and FA firing modes for the shotgun, and the BF and UFB modes for the grenade launcher.
The immense amount of recoil created by using the UFB settings means any uncompensated recoil is tripled on any following shot instead of doubled.

Triglav
SMG __________ 5P _________ -- ______ SA/BF/FA/UFB/HV _____________ 14(b) x3

This prototype SMG uses a unique 3 barrel design, with the barrels stacked vertically. Rather than using a standard
magazine, the bullets are stacked in-line in each of the three barrels which allows for the firing of ultra-fast short bursts.
Bullets must be preloaded into tubes (counts as caseless ammunition) which can be removed and replaced with fresh ammo tubes
using a breach loading system.
The Triglav has all the normal firing modes as listed as well as one additional ultra-fast short burst (UFB) setting.
In this setting, the Triglav can only fire narrow bursts. It also may be adjusted to operate as a High Velocity weapon.

Also, i did not add any prices because these were prototype models created for a run and hadn't yet hit market...but they would be very pricy

Freeze Shot: Shotgun Cartridge that has the load replaced with a small amount of Freeze Foam in a gel pack that breaks open on contact, covering the target.

Great for non-lethal takedowns at a range. Works well when paired with the Freeze Grenade (Trademark design by Neraph) to clean up those not hit with the splash.