This vehicle is weird. It is supposed to be some kind of a dune buggy with a weapon mount. Now here is what is weird:

• The vehicle is available to everyone while sporting a forbidden modification.
• The weapon in the mount cannot be moved but must be used by a human shooter (fixed mount, manual control), other than the driver.
• The price is lower than any other car.

How did this vehicle happen? Who in their right mind would build a manually controlled fixed weapon mount. Even a gun port or pintle mount would be more effective and the former for a fraction of the cost and protects the shooter. A remote control would make the second crew member superfluous and the whole crew (the driver) would be safely behind armor (pretty light armor though).

It's marketed towards big game hunters going after bounties of dangerous awakened animals, most likely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Let's hope those animals don't move too erratically. Stay still, critter!

Somebody watched Delta Force starring Chuck Norris too many times.

The first two do seem odd... the first that the "F" mod doesn't make the vehicle itself "F" (though in RL you are free and legal to put all the weapon mounts you want on a vehicle as long as they don't interfere with the operation of the vehicle and don't have any functional weapons in the mounts). The second that the mount is "fixed" instead of "flexible"... if it's fixed why would you need a gunner? It's only ever going to point whichever way the vehicle points.

The price is understandable... the Morgan is not a car, it's a dune buggy. Realistically it's something you're more likely to see cruising across the desert or in the mountains and not downtown Seattle.

They could have watched Megaforce and we could have had flying motorcycles with rockets.

True but I was trying to think the best of them...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It is my favorite vehicle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't remember that movie, but I'm pretty sure the vehicles in that movie had flexible weapon mounts.

Mea Culpa. Your nerd credit rating is bigger than mine.

If you have seen the movie yours is bigger than mine. I just thought using a fixed one would be too stupid even for a Chuck Norris movie.

This thing is a beach-buggy.
It has roll-Bars.
No armored plates.
And on top of the cage, there is a mount for the gun, right?

Right, except that the mount is fixed. I.e. maneuvering the whole vehicle is the only way to point the gun in the right direction. When to open fire is not the decision of the driver but a second crew member in the back.

This setup would make sense either with a flexible manually controlled mount or a fixed remote controlled mount.

I think there were shooting for something like THIS.

I'm pretty glad that War introduced rules for vehicle combat that actually make flexible and turret mounts mechanically better.

In regular combat, there's nothing in the BBB rules that makes a fixed mount any less effective than a turret. I suppose that might be because BBB rules only have one type of mount.

I would point out that in earlier editions, fixed mounts still allowed an installed weapon to pivot by 5 degrees.

4th edition does not make mention of this, but it makes sense that it would still work similarly, otherwise all firing from fixed mounts would require vehicle tests rather than Gunnery.




-k

Which is a great house rule either way if you ask me.

I imagine many corps try to add elements that would normally be illegal to legal products, loopholes and the like. I had the players steel the prototype for a gun that had a built in internal silencer that was marketed as an ergonomic feature, and thus legal for sale in the UCAS with no restriction(other than those applying to all pistols).

That's a hell of a loophole, but a much milder version of the principle might be sound.

HOT WHEELS!!!Ah yes, gotta love them loopholes.

China apparently found one in Canada where they were able to ship AK-Clones as "BB-Guns". Supposedly. Either that, or someone from the RCMP flipped their lid when they found toys built with steel and wood instead of plastic.

Ares wanted those specs, either to copy them and beat the smaller company to market, or fight in court to try to make it illegal, since legal silenced weaponry would be worth billions to the corp that managed to pull it off first.

That's the kind of stuff that corps need runners for.

Believe me, those ARE BB-guns. Airsoft guns more precisely. They do cost $250 or something thereabouts, though. There's also that $500 Mosin-Nagant rifle made of aluminium, with a wooden stock and real scope. It shoots plastic BBs too.

There is the Ingram Smartgun though... not legal but only restricted despite having a sound suppressor.
Not to mention the M22A3. There you have a grenade launcher everyone can get a license for.

Those AKs were actually BB guns, but could easily be converted to full on bullet-firing AKs with a few part swaps.

At least it's not like the US ATF when they seized shipment of Airsoft M-4s, claiming they could be converted to a real gun. Turns out that, yes, you technically could, but only by replacing 90% of the gun except the plastic shell holding everything together, and even then it would likely shake itself apart after a few shots.

It was more or less the equivalent of "These blocks of wood can be converted to real guns! Carve out some of the wood, stick in all the innards of a real gun, and it fires!



-k

That makes me want to hand-carve a block of wood into a "real gun" with my pocket knife at boy scout camp.

Not that I go to BSA camp any more. Or whittle. Or want to spend that much effort.