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Advocatus Diaboli  Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282  |
3278, *shrug*. Nothing in SR4 degrades. But I didn't mean the tech had to be foam, but only that they can't 'blow'.
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Nov 8 2011, 03:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 16-October 11 Member No.: 40,831 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 8 2011, 03:30 PM)  Oh man, those were good times back home, let me tell you! As for making cars run on Petrol... Heh. According to legend, one Rumrunner in my family tree ran himself and his car on the same hooch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) A car can run on anything mildly combustible with enough ingenuity. |
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Nov 8 2011, 03:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Nov 8 2011, 10:36 AM) Nothing in SR4 degrades. Hmmm? I'm not following you here. |
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Nov 8 2011, 04:07 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Some 'runners are still driving the 2050 C-N Jackrabbit they started with. On the same tires. No oil changes. And so on.
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Nov 8 2011, 04:47 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (tehana @ Nov 8 2011, 05:42 PM) A car can run on anything mildly combustible with enough ingenuity. I think Rudolf Diesel made the claim that his engine could run on coal dust back in the day... |
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Nov 8 2011, 04:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 16-October 11 Member No.: 40,831 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 8 2011, 05:47 PM) I think Rudolf Diesel made the claim that his engine could run on coal dust back in the day... Clearly he didn't have enough ingenuity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 8 2011, 05:05 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
He argued that they can't be foam because they don't degrade. … Nothing degrades in SR4, except maybe Programs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 8 2011, 05:10 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 8 2011, 12:47 PM) I think Rudolf Diesel made the claim that his engine could run on coal dust back in the day... QUOTE (tehana @ Nov 8 2011, 12:50 PM) Clearly he didn't have enough ingenuity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Coal Oil, maybe?
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Nov 9 2011, 03:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 673 Joined: 9-May 08 Member No.: 15,965 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 8 2011, 06:10 PM) Coal Oil, maybe? After seeing a diesel engine running off of a pig I'll believe damn near anything. Rudolf Diesel clearly made a dark bargain with a powerful force. |
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Nov 9 2011, 03:59 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Nov 8 2011, 10:47 PM) After seeing a diesel engine running off of a pig I'll believe damn near anything. Rudolf Diesel clearly made a dark bargain with a powerful force. Live pig, or dead pig? |
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Nov 9 2011, 04:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 673 Joined: 9-May 08 Member No.: 15,965 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 9 2011, 04:59 AM) Live pig, or dead pig? Well it's pig fat, so it depends on how sadistic you are.... |
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Nov 9 2011, 05:33 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Nov 8 2011, 11:47 PM) After seeing a diesel engine running off of a pig I'll believe damn near anything. Rudolf Diesel clearly made a dark bargain with a powerful force. Just science.Oh, wait, that is The Devil according to some people. Never mind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Nov 9 2011, 05:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 673 Joined: 9-May 08 Member No.: 15,965 |
Thinking of science in 'DA FOO-TURE I would think that things like solar panels and home methane plants would be both more efficient and cheaper. That's the stuff I need for my character's "Revive Glow City" personal mission.
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Nov 9 2011, 05:59 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Yeah, but those would cut into profits of the Megas that own power plants, and thus would be killed.
Also, how much sun do you think Seattle gets? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) (Yeah yeah, I know, other places to 'Run.). And the dangers of Methane can be proven with just a simple Outhouse and some spin doctoring. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Better to have nice, safe, proven Fission and Fusion Energy Sources. And the expensive, but green, Geo-Thermal Taps, which will provide energy requirements for everyone at affordable prices. |
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Nov 9 2011, 11:56 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 9 2011, 12:59 AM) Live pig, or dead pig? A Schrödinger's pig, perhaps? |
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Nov 9 2011, 02:20 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Thunderdome anyone?
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Nov 9 2011, 05:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 673 Joined: 9-May 08 Member No.: 15,965 |
Possibly last weird thought in this thread. Using fat for diesel fuel... Would free liposuction for America be a good thing?
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Nov 9 2011, 05:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 16-October 11 Member No.: 40,831 |
QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Nov 9 2011, 05:15 PM) Possibly last weird thought in this thread. Using fat for diesel fuel... Would free liposuction for America be a good thing? Doubtful when the meat industry had as much byproduct as it does. |
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Nov 9 2011, 05:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 28-November 09 From: In ur ba5e, killin' ur d00dz. Member No.: 17,910 |
QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Nov 9 2011, 12:15 PM) Possibly last weird thought in this thread. Using fat for diesel fuel... Would free liposuction for America be a good thing? Ya know, as smelly as it may be... It could work... Can't be any worse than biodiesel. |
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Nov 9 2011, 06:20 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 9 2011, 10:20 AM) Thunderdome anyone? Can we get BEYOND Thunderdome, please. I really want another movie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE (tehana @ Nov 9 2011, 01:18 PM) Doubtful when the meat industry had as much byproduct as it does. Which is used in various areas as well. Animal fat is full of nitrates, and the US is in a war at the moment...QUOTE (Tech_Rat @ Nov 9 2011, 01:27 PM) Ya know, as smelly as it may be... It could work... Can't be any worse than biodiesel. Probably better in some ways. Diesel Engines are the perfect thing for the Post Apocalypse, they'll run on damned near anything with very little work, and are exceptionally reliable. Also, they're usually high torque jobs so you can haul a lot as well.Humanity's reliance on Petroleum Products is greed and directed stupidity, pure and simple. I loved how Shadowrun made Petrochem items rare, and the Hybrid Everything kind of takes away from the dystopia a bit for me. But, then again, that's just in major cities, so... Then again, there's brushfire wars over a single oil well in some parts of the world, so... And I can see "Privateer" fleets fighting over oil wells in International Waters... Hmmmmmm... Deadly Waters just started giving me more ideas. |
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Nov 9 2011, 06:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 583 Joined: 1-October 09 From: France Member No.: 17,693 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 9 2011, 07:20 PM) Diesel Engines are the perfect thing for the Post Apocalypse, they'll run on damned near anything with very little work, and are exceptionally reliable. The new, high pressure direct injection diesels are much more sensitive to what you feed them. That's the price of their improved economy and power. |
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Nov 9 2011, 07:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,233 |
You can also aim for wood gas.
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Nov 9 2011, 07:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 28-November 09 From: In ur ba5e, killin' ur d00dz. Member No.: 17,910 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 9 2011, 12:20 PM) Can we get BEYOND Thunderdome, please. I really want another movie. ;)Which is used in various areas as well. Animal fat is full of nitrates, and the US is in a war at the moment...Probably better in some ways. Diesel Engines are the perfect thing for the Post Apocalypse, they'll run on damned near anything with very little work, and are exceptionally reliable. Also, they're usually high torque jobs so you can haul a lot as well. Very True. Take a pre-2006 Diesel vehicle in the states. You go in to any grocery store, buy a bunch of veggie oil, and run the truck off of that. I had a late nineties diesel car when I worked at a chinese delivery joint. The owners/my bosses paid a guy $100 a week to take all the waste cooking oil. I offered to take it off their hands for $25 a week. Used that money and my tips to buy a siphon pump and 50 gallon plastic barrel. Made a filter process in my garage. Didn't pay for fuel for 6 months. QUOTE (Dahrken @ Nov 9 2011, 12:43 PM) The new, high pressure direct injection diesels are much more sensitive to what you feed them. That's the price of their improved economy and power. Very true. Downside is, when you couple that with the ULSD we use in the states now, the seals and such wear out sooner. Less sulfur/oil product, less lubricity. Less Lube>More wear. |
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Nov 9 2011, 07:31 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
The more I hear about modern vehicles, the more I hate the fact that I sold Dad's car... Despite the fact that it was in Ontario and I have no mechanical skills to repair it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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Nov 9 2011, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 9 2011, 01:31 PM) The more I hear about modern vehicles, the more I hate the fact that I sold Dad's car... Despite the fact that it was in Ontario and I have no mechanical skills to repair it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) If you ever get the chance to get it back, and it still needs work, I wouldn't mind helping you out with it. Who knows. I may even run a game for you to finally play. Just, no Binky. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) |
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