I still like that Centaur cop that was asked about "Pony Rides". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) It was right then, why wouldn't it be right today?True, but you can't get them to play multiple roles for a John who wants something in particular. Also you don't have them stealing money, knifing Johns, getting arrested and spilling info to the DA for a easier sentence... Or get money from a Cybernetics Corporation that needs some new equipment tested on someone and have no volunteers."Punks" and "Sociopaths"?

It's a pretty common tactic for even low level gangs to use sexually predatory tactics to control people, and make money. Rape is kind of one of the easiest crimes to commit-which is why rape and assault are so much easier than say forging ID's.

I'm not sure that difference exists. Does it really?

I believe so. From the people I've known it always seemed a difference between acts of "necessity" and ones of desire.

Yes, it does. Most street gangs who don't think second thoughts about shooting up a street with automatics to hit one guy in a drive-by to send a message will likely be ill to slowly kill a person to death in front of their tied-up and helpless family to send a message. Especially if they then move onto the family and kill all of them the same way. Yes, even the one in the crib.

Shove a knife in a guys guts, maybe. Slowly cut off piece. After piece. After piece. And mail the parts one bit at a time to the police or reporters as a message against investigating or reporting on them?

I wish I could say the world is a fragged up place now, but, honestly, *Sighs* have we ever changed?

Then we get to the sliding scale of what constitutes necessary. I could introduce you to a dozen plus murderers, twice that many rapists and more who can all articulate why what they did was necessary. I get what you're after-but unfortunately life isn't so polite.

The problem is that morality and ethics are not universal even within the same culture.

What I'd do and what some other Ontarian living in Manitoba would do in the same situation could be two vastly different things.

I simply blame how imprecise English can be. The only real example I have without calling on those I've known, since I have seen Sons of Anarchy referenced here, is that Oppie kills out of necessity and Happy does it out of desire.

By they way I do enjoy when topics like this pop up on the boards.

Well, sending a message is a "necessity" to people in that life.

Oppie kills out of vengence. Happy does it out of desire. Tig just needs to remember why he beats hookers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Jax planting the pool cue into the guy's junk and having it lift up like a flagpole as he fell down was a necessity.

Traditionally it's done in the reverse order.

Agreed. The difference comes from a grunt being ordered to do it or one going "I got this! Man, I been waiting to test out my new machete ALL DAY!"

I think it's a positive sign that I don't know how to traditionally do something like that.Soldier or Sociopath.

@Christian Lafay

Which is none, to be exactly.
Yeah, did not do any dirty talk, while I raped her, makes it so much better.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)


Necessity is just saying I do not want to walkt the other way. Sometimes it just means: I think thats the easier way.
@CanRay

I disagree with that. But I think there is no use to go into details here. Lets just but it like that, that this is not the modern view on that topic. (For example human rights are seen as law, which applys to everyone and everywhere...)

Does anybody really live in Manitoba? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Seems to echo the impression i get of crimes in general. Most are done on a necessity/desperation basis, while minority is done because the perpetrators enjoy doing them.

Well, let's take it away from crime to give a different light to it. "Occupy that town, soldier" versus "Take the village! TAKE THE WHOLE F*CKING VILLAGE!" Two commanders with the same goal but different drives.

Quite a few people, there are a lot of places that are nice. Winnipeg isn't one of them.

Honestly, I think the First Nations communities saw Fort Garry being set up and laughed their asses off. "Trust those Europeans to settle in the ONE PLACE that's totally unlivable most of the year." "I know, even we only visit on the few nice months of the year to trade with the other tribes on the rivers."

'Course, it's a Urban Native Reserve as well, so maybe I might be mistaken. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Which Vietnam movie was it where the soldier went, "Let's do the Village! Let's do the whole F$%#ING VILLAGE!!!".

I know it was "Full Metal Jacket" where the protagonist asked the Side Gunner, "How can you shoot Women and Children?". "Don't lead them as much.", was the reply, as he let out another burst from the M-60.

Platoon.

If you found your sister had been raped, would the person you'd want to kill be your sister or the rapist?

In a not insignificant part of the world you would feel it was essential to kill your sister to restore the family honor.

Thanks.And some you would have to kill the rapist. And others you'd have to kill both. And in the "Better" parts of the world you have to wait until the Police can get around to it and hope the statute of limitations hasn't run out yet. I lack a sister, but... *Shudders* That's a dark place in my mind I don't want to go to.

*ME*.

Keep it related to the 6th World, ok? No "what if" spelcuations based on today's world.

Do not take offence in that, but there was a reason I said, I do not want to go into detail. This would just lead to far. It would start with Hobbes, Schoppenhauer and Kant and end up with views on natural rights of the modern philosophie. (When saying starting, I mean you can start from there, you could also go back to Aristoteles or the new testament.)

Dude, did you read my last post?