It's because the Higgs Boson went out for a drink.

Out of a Klein Beer Bottle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wrapped in a möbius strip?

http://www.kleinbottle.com/

I want a Klein Beer Bottle in the Stubbie version. Because I'm Canadian, DAMNIT!

Since when do electrons do not have a "mass"?

Sorry I meant nearly massless. Very small compared to protons, neutrons and their anti-particles.

Theoretical Physicist Magician
Favourite Spells:

Higgs-Boson Converter: Transform the chosen target into Higgs-Bosons
Hadron Collider Field: Area Effect - Anything Magnetic is stuck to the ground
Singularity Field: Anyone in the area of effect is stuck to the ground and is dragged towards the center (Especially fun with Sharp Objects and people)

Ever since they lapsed from Catholicism. Heh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So very Horrible, Canray... You deserve a cookie... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What, not a Communion Wafer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

They come in soylent green flavor, now.

Mmmmmmmmmmm, "This is my flesh", indeed! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

8D

Ghoul Christian Cannibal Named Jesus? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

Makes me think of transmetropolitan, where just about anything was available as a cloned snack.

Wouldnt work for Ghouls though, cant clone that pesky "essence" they need.

Hmm, if a Ghoul COULD clone himself (and essence/stuff they need) would they actually GAIN anything from said cloned meat as it is essentially their own body they eat from? I would say no as they are basically chewing on their own arm.

Ghouls do not need Essence.

They do not lose Essence as vampires do but they still have the dietary requirement for human flesh. I#m not sure whether cloned flesh would work.

As long as the flesh was cloned from an actual metahuman, it should be perfectly fine!

...or are you proposing that a Ghoul can't feed on a cloned natural limb replacement, and that someone with the 'Escaped Clone' quality (RC pg.97) isn't viable Ghoul-food? (or Vampire food, for that matter - nothing states that a clone made in that way doesn't have essence...)


But, returning to the topic at hand: Convert Skin to Salt, anyone? Duration 'Permanent' of course... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Logically you are absolutely right. This however would mitigate the ghopul problem a lot. Additionally I'm not aware that the Draco Foundation gave a lot of cash to the inventor of cloned bodyparts.

Exactly.

There is still no solution for making cloned meat into a viable food source for Ghouls as regular cloning does not work as it has no astral connection as a normal born being would have had. There is something about getting the meat "fresh from the source" that hinders that part and the Draco foundation have a huge reward for whoever cracks that problem so that Ghouls can eat essentially cloned flesh - something they cannot do today.

Its perfectly fine for them to eat each other though (probably the only thing stopping a Ghoul apocalypse as they keep their own feral numbers down)

Cloned flesh wouldn't really qualify as 'synthetic', so that's a moot point.

There are a lot of moral and ethical implications to feeding functional clones to Ghouls, which I am sure have prevented the spread of this as a food source. I doubt many people would be willing to feed their genetic material to ghouls, and there are costs involved that few groups would be willing to pay.



Do you have a quote anywhere that says cloned flesh isn't classified as 'metahuman' for the purpose of the ghoul's dietary requirement? (or anything else, for that matter: Is a clone immune to the Slay <race> spells?)

If I'm not mistaken, similarly to a vampire who need to drain Essence from a sapient being, a ghoul need to eat weekly at least small amout of flesh that was once part of a sapient being tu fulfill his HMVV induced dietary requirement.

A newborn would qualify (even if he does not really manifest it yet, he has the unimpaired potential for sapience), a clone a(as in a genetic duplicate allowed to grow neurologically fully functionnal) too, but the decerebrated "wimps" harvested for medical purpose would not.

Hmm, so cutting off a squatter's arm to feed a ghoul and then cloning him a new arm would work, but giving the ghoul the cloned one would not. What would happen if you chop off the cloned and reattached arm?

I guess the authors did not think the implications of readily available cloned parts through. Same thing with Tamanous, they should be out of business.