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 Mar 1 2012, 05:50 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516  |
QUOTE (Stormdrake @ Feb 29 2012, 07:29 PM)  Do one more as the result of a pact with a shadow spirit? The individual gets luck throughout the day but at night the spirit changes him or her into a rage monster that prawls the streets. Very easy. Just a standard dream pact with a suitable spirit. Two ways to do a Wolfgang Kies-type werewolf: - Make him a Twisted Adept, using the pre-SR4 suggestion of the twisted magic making powers manifest physically. - Use a Totem's Way Adept and apply the Shamanic mask option. |
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Mar 1 2012, 09:31 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 4-September 10 Member No.: 19,006 |
I dont think there is anything that prevents a wolf shifter from having a Critter form (wolfman) spell. You could give it as a spell knack or give the beasty full magic.
And if there is anything in the rules that says you cant do this, screw it, you're the DM! (If you are not the DM, simply tear out the pages that say you cant do this) |
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Mar 1 2012, 10:29 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (Zoot @ Mar 1 2012, 10:31 PM) I dont think there is anything that prevents a wolf shifter from having a Critter form (wolfman) spell. You could give it as a spell knack or give the beasty full magic. And if there is anything in the rules that says you cant do this, screw it, you're the DM! (If you are not the DM, simply tear out the pages that say you cant do this) You can't do this. Well, not unless you find an existing non-paranormal critter that looks like a wolfman, that is. |
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Mar 1 2012, 10:44 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 1 2012, 03:29 PM) You can't do this. Well, not unless you find an existing non-paranormal critter that looks like a wolfman, that is. Not with Critter Form/Shapechange, no. But you can always research and create a New "Wolfman Hybrid" Shapechange spell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 1 2012, 10:51 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 1 2012, 11:44 PM) Not with Critter Form/Shapechange, no. But you can always research and create a New "Wolfman Hybrid" Shapechange spell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Of course! (GM allowing...) But that's not what he suggested, now is it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Mar 1 2012, 10:52 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Even if it worked, 'building' something that's wolfman-like out of the existing rules (Wolfman Form, or like The Jopp's SURGE Ghoul) is never the right solution. The fluff would be clearly wrong.
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Mar 1 2012, 11:07 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 1 2012, 03:51 PM) Of course! (GM allowing...) But that's not what he suggested, now is it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Neener Nenner... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Heh. You are, of course, correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 2 2012, 10:22 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2012, 11:52 PM) Even if it worked, 'building' something that's wolfman-like out of the existing rules (Wolfman Form, or like The Jopp's SURGE Ghoul) is never the right solution. The fluff would be clearly wrong. I do think that a twisted Totem's Way Adept with shamanic mask fits, though - you can even add suitable geasa to make it more powerful during the full moon. It won't be infectious, of course, but many would probably treat the character as if he were - and if the GM allows, let the Twisted Adept 'self-learn' some blood magic adept metamagics, as suggested in Street Magic. |
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Mar 2 2012, 04:05 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
And then you have an initiatory group full of them calling themselves "The Circle," who lead a mercenary company called "The Companions," and...
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Mar 2 2012, 06:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 2 2012, 05:05 PM) And then you have an initiatory group full of them calling themselves "The Circle," who lead a mercenary company called "The Companions," and... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Mar 3 2012, 05:19 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Free Beast Spirit Inhabitation Hybrid-Form Merge.
Done. EDIT: A couple steps further... A Dream Pact where the above basically happens, but only on the full moon. Make the beast spirit a Blood spirit and give it Energy Drain (karma, physical damage). |
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Mar 3 2012, 04:36 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 3 2012, 06:19 AM) A Dream Pact where the above basically happens, but only on the full moon. Make the beast spirit a Blood spirit and give it Energy Drain (karma, physical damage). Loving it! |
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Mar 4 2012, 06:14 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Make it high-force, but keep the Allergy and Vulnerability to silver.
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Mar 4 2012, 08:12 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,089 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 3 2012, 06:19 AM) Free Beast Spirit Inhabitation Hybrid-Form Merge. Done. EDIT: A couple steps further... A Dream Pact where the above basically happens, but only on the full moon. Make the beast spirit a Blood spirit and give it Energy Drain (karma, physical damage). Well, inhabitation by a malevolent spirit actually is what the classical werewolf myths describe, so this fits quite nicely. I would make it a Shadow Spirit, though, they simply seem to fit better into the "deal with the devil" theme. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) PS: On the other hand, people used to explain many things with evil spirits and whatnot. IC, Loup-Garou are just like headaches or epilepsy: People used to explain it with possession from downstairs, but it turns out to be something else entirely. |
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Mar 5 2012, 08:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Used the pact idea over the weekend. Went really well. The players felt challenged and the fact that the humans entered into the pact freely to acquire "luck" in their every day lives means the shifters are up and comers in whatever field they are working in which just makes things that touch more difficult for runners to deal with.
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Mar 7 2012, 02:38 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 2 2012, 05:05 PM) And then you have an initiatory group full of them calling themselves "The Circle," who lead a mercenary company called "The Companions," and... And another group of driven mercenaries called the Silver Hand wants them dead for multiple murders. |
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Mar 7 2012, 05:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 4 2012, 02:12 PM) Well, inhabitation by a malevolent spirit actually is what the classical werewolf myths describe, so this fits quite nicely. I would make it a Shadow Spirit, though, they simply seem to fit better into the "deal with the devil" theme. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) PS: On the other hand, people used to explain many things with evil spirits and whatnot. IC, Loup-Garou are just like headaches or epilepsy: People used to explain it with possession from downstairs, but it turns out to be something else entirely. You can get a shadow spirit with Energy Drain (physical, karma). I have a thread that details how toxic, blood, shadow, and insect spirits can go nearly every which way. |
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Mar 8 2012, 10:17 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Feb 29 2012, 07:20 AM) Which is why people are happy it doesn't regenerate.... Them people are Nancys. Wolfman ought to be scary. I like the idea of a pack of of them charging and getting blasted on their backside by gunfire, then getting up and continuing to charge. Give em 2 magic and they'll regenerate pretty slow, but still be an increased threat. |
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Mar 9 2012, 09:05 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Mar 8 2012, 04:17 PM) Them people are Nancys. Wolfman ought to be scary. I like the idea of a pack of of them charging and getting blasted on their backside by gunfire, then getting up and continuing to charge. Give em 2 magic and they'll Fixed that for you. I had a troll western drake adept blood mage as an enemy for my group once. Something like 24-27 Bod and a Magic of like 7-9 and they dropped him in about 2 CT. |
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Mar 9 2012, 09:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
A dzoo-no-qua mystic blood adept is pretty tough, especially with MAG 8, 19 BOD, 9 WIL and 9 in counterspelling
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Mar 9 2012, 09:16 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Mar 9 2012, 10:12 PM) A dzoo-no-qua mystic blood adept is pretty tough, especially with MAG 8, 19 BOD, 9 WIL and 9 in counterspelling Make him a Skinwalker, just for the laughs... |
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Mar 9 2012, 09:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
Oh, i forgot - he was a SURGE III fomori also ...
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Mar 9 2012, 09:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 6-November 09 From: MTL Member No.: 17,849 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 2 2012, 11:05 AM) And then you have an initiatory group full of them calling themselves "The Circle," who lead a mercenary company called "The Companions," and... Aww man, now i have to go and make a viking archer adept with commanding voice. Mild Addiction(Mead) Vendetta: Lofwyr Doc Wagons about to get a lot of calls regarding knee related injuries. |
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Mar 12 2012, 04:38 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 4 2012, 09:12 PM) Well, inhabitation by a malevolent spirit actually is what the classical werewolf myths describe, so this fits quite nicely. Really? Never heard of that before (not saying that you're wrong, though). |
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Mar 12 2012, 04:40 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Mar 9 2012, 04:48 PM) Doc Wagons about to get a lot of calls regarding knee related injuries. "I used to be a Shadowrunner, until I took a Trollbow Arrow to the knee. Took my whole damned leg off."
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