I found this bit of information at http://www.cracked.com/article_19471_6-biz...er4=recommended


Food Side-effect #1 kinda makes me worried about the future family life of the average Shadowrunner... not to mention nearly anyone else in Shadowrun that can't afford 'real' food.

So you're saying we're getting rid of another annoying mistake in human evolution?

What mistake in human evolution are you referring to? (I read the article)

Right... only wimps are affected by estrogen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you force feed all the male population of the world mad amounts of soy, and then let them try to reproduce, anyway, then eventually, by means of forced evolution, you can create the UBERMAN, a sperm-spreading juggernaut, a master of spermination even under the most adverse odds. The MAN that is SO MANLY and POTENT that simple matters such as hormone levels just don't matter anymore. The UBERMAN will be surrounded by wafting clouds of testosterone, and all the women of the world (I'll get to that...) will become putty just by going near him. ALL his children will be UBERMEN, too, and obviously all boys, because the UBERMAN couldn't possibly produce a girl.

So there goes, how to wipe out the human race (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . And Shadowrun invented it!!

"Them veggietarians! You know, those freaks that don't eat meat..."
(I don't like vegetarians. They steal my food's food. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) )

It's kind of a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation here:

1) Eat meat: smell bad to women = lower chance of reproducing
2) Eat tofu: lower sperm count = lower chance of reproducing

I disagree:

Eat meat. Make fracking awesome steak. Get women.

Worst thing that can happen is she doesn't quite like your degree of rare. That's a catastrophe in and of itself, but...

Yeah, it's always amazing how many people get worked up on food "chemicals" because some studies suggest they might be harmful in large doses, and then happily drink their soy milk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

But based on the fact that soy feeds ~90% of the world, I'd say it's safe to assume that if there are any problems they got worked out. Although increased estrogen uptake would explain the female proportions in some artwork (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's not just eat meat. It's eating red meat. That might be contributing toward why I've had a lot more female attention over the last year. I've all but given up red meat. Most of my meat intake is chicken, pork, and fish.

It is interesting that eating soy products often messes up my body's digestion. I can eat a little bit of soy without issue. Eating a meal based on soy is asking for trouble. That of course upsets my vegan friends but when it comes to beliefs vs my healthy life, my life takes priority over their beliefs.

But yeah, I've noticed that my body odor changes if I eat a lot of red meat (more than 2 meals per week) and it takes a few days (4-6 meals of no red meat) for it change back.

Reading the Harvard study that the article pulled from, all of the men were already having infertility issues. While, high levels of soy did correlate to low levels of sperm, it is not definitively the cause. (The study didn't measure the sperm levels after adjusting the patients diets to remove soy products as far as I can tell.) Separating correlation and causation can be a mess especially when dealing with endocrinology.

As a side note--testosterone has very weak effects on the male body. It is generally converted to estradiol (a form of estrogen) before binding to intracellular proteins.

Um, we're gamers... What's the chance of us finding a mate of either sex anyhow?

Fortunately, Some Gamers have already solved that particular issue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Robots don't count, TJ.

Even if they're AI?

*bemused/annoyed look* I dunno, but I seem to have become some sort of relationship service; people that I've introduced via my gaming groups keep getting together (including one pair that I'm literally waiting for them to finally tie the knot)...

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Do they count if they can pass the Turing and Voigt-Kampff tests?

That's assuming a lot, he was talking about today.

Between you and me… Rachael was okay whether or not she passed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I love vegetarians. They're delicious! And it's just nature's way. Those who eat plants get eaten by those who eat meat. Ta-da! Nature!

speak for yourself ^^


@Topic:
My girl is vegan . . pity me . .

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I'm sure that's why they called it soylent green...

You have all of my pity

I'm Sorry...
Mine is only partially Vegetarian (Meat gives severe complications, but eats it anyways)...

Nerps. It's what's for dinner. Now in Teryaki style.

Yuuummmmmmmm..... Teriyaki Nerps. It does not get any better than that; Except for maybe Sweet and Sour Nerps.