 Milspec versus normal armor, More armor than heavy milspec possible? |
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 Mar 28 2012, 03:05 PM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387  |
I want to stat up a troll that fights with claymores. Not the swords, but straps claymores to his fists and punches people, making the explosives detonate and taking no damage in the process. I know it can be done.
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Mar 28 2012, 03:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 27-February 12 From: Nebraska, USA Member No.: 50,732 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 28 2012, 09:05 AM)  I want to stat up a troll that fights with claymores. Not the swords, but straps claymores to his fists and punches people, making the explosives detonate and taking no damage in the process. I know it can be done. Brings new meaning to the "Explosive power of his punches" |
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Mar 28 2012, 03:23 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 28 2012, 10:05 AM) I want to stat up a troll that fights with claymores. Not the swords, but straps claymores to his fists and punches people, making the explosives detonate and taking no damage in the process. I know it can be done. He should also get the adept power of elemental fists, and choose "blast" as his element. |
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Mar 28 2012, 03:27 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,463 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 28 2012, 05:05 PM) I want to stat up a troll that fights with claymores. Not the swords, but straps claymores to his fists and punches people, making the explosives detonate and taking no damage in the process. I know it can be done. Just make sure he can read. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Bye Thanee |
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Mar 28 2012, 03:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,353 |
QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Mar 28 2012, 02:57 PM) And the final question is how much of it can I wear before KE or LS start forcefully asking questions such as why do you neeed that much armor. Do you think that this is some kind of warzone. Of course in Lagos, Bogata and certain lawless locales this is a non issue. But in those sam locales you'll draw the attention of other interested parties. Question, how often do you bring up being over armored as an out of place thing? Oddly enough due to armor clothing and the weaves from Arsenal, the opposite can actually be an issue. For runners in 5-6 body range and with softweave, they can hit their encumbrance cap in fancy clothes pretty easily, but it's more difficult to do so with more "street" clothing. Thus you might end up way overdressing for that meet in the barrens. |
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Mar 28 2012, 04:49 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,463 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
As if the 14/11 from Armor Jacket with FFBA Half-Body and PPP (sans Helmet) isn't enough armor for the barrens. And also completely inconspicious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Bye Thanee |
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Mar 28 2012, 05:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,700 Joined: 1-July 10 Member No.: 18,778 |
You can't Carbon-Boron an armor jacket - it's not armor clothing.
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Mar 28 2012, 05:14 PM
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Mar 28 2012, 05:32 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 |
When you're building your complete armor set, don't forget the humble gel pack armor mod.
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Mar 28 2012, 06:25 PM
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Mar 28 2012, 06:31 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
QUOTE (Manunancy @ Mar 27 2012, 10:31 PM) Even if it's rule-legal, adding softweave to the PPP (which fluff-wise is hard* armor) and even worse to a helmet seems ludicrous. A soft helmet doesn't sounds like it should be that effective as an impact armor.. * hard as in 'made with hard, rigid material', the similarity with 'hardened' is only in semantics. GM common sense counts for a lot. I had to deny someone putting gel packs on form-fitting body armor last night. Just seemed ridiculous. |
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Mar 28 2012, 06:35 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Especially if it's under something and using its special stacking bonus. …The one that comes from the special thinness and fit.
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Mar 28 2012, 06:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 28 2012, 10:35 AM) Especially if it's under something and using its special stacking bonus. …The one that comes from the special thinness and fit. Precisely my reason for disallowing it. As it is, he's a troll adept with 17 ballistic armor. He's new to the system, and I'm happy for him, but c'mon... I'm not worried though; he had help from a guy who knows Adepts very well, but he mostly picked the powers himself, and his build is...not optimized, IMO. Who takes Sustenance as a power? Why focus so much on strength and melee atttack skills, then take Krav Maga as your martial art? But I digress... Back on the topic of armor, I'm considering re-statting the Lone Star/Knight Errant goons to take advantage of armor stacking. Form-fitting armor is really cheap for what it does, and if you were being shot at as often as LS/KE guys are, you'd be a moron not to dig into your own pockets and buy at least a half-suit for yourself, if the company wouldn't pay for it. |
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Mar 28 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Mar 28 2012, 08:41 PM) Who takes Sustenance as a power? Me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE Back on the topic of armor, I'm considering re-statting the Lone Star/Knight Errant goons to take advantage of armor stacking. Form-fitting armor is really cheap for what it does, and if you were being shot at as often as LS/KE guys are, you'd be a moron not to dig into your own pockets and buy at least a half-suit for yourself, if the company wouldn't pay for it. I do that, anyways. I never use the listed equipment, but give them reasonable equipment. Especially, when it is from newer books that have come out afterwards. Bye Thanee |
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Mar 28 2012, 07:44 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
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Mar 28 2012, 07:55 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
I would point out that a major advantage of the outfit I posted earlier is that it doesn't immediately LOOK like armor.
-k |
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Mar 28 2012, 08:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,353 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 28 2012, 08:55 PM) I would point out that a major advantage of the outfit I posted earlier is that it doesn't immediately LOOK like armor. Consider how often it's worn by shadowrunners, steampunk suits are armor. It's just armor that isn't polite to point out as such. |
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Mar 28 2012, 08:01 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
On the other hand, it looks like you're wearing a steampunk suit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) You deserve whatever happens to you.
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Mar 28 2012, 08:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 28 2012, 12:01 PM) On the other hand, it looks like you're wearing a steampunk suit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) You deserve whatever happens to you. Can you imagine watching security cameras in the 2070s? "Sir, there's a....foppish ork dandy and an elf in a hoop skirt and corset penetrating the south perimeter." "Sound the alarm and don your tophats! We've got Shadowrunners!" |
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Mar 28 2012, 09:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 4-December 09 Member No.: 17,940 |
QUOTE (JonathanC @ Mar 28 2012, 08:41 PM) Precisely my reason for disallowing it. As it is, he's a troll adept with 17 ballistic armor. He's new to the system, and I'm happy for him, but c'mon... I'm not worried though; he had help from a guy who knows Adepts very well, but he mostly picked the powers himself, and his build is...not optimized, IMO. Who takes Sustenance as a power? Why focus so much on strength and melee atttack skills, then take Krav Maga as your martial art? But I digress... Depending on his lifestyle, a troll is probably the race that gets the most use out of it, especially if you put on certain bioware like a symbiont or suprathyroid. It can save a lot on the food budget... |
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Mar 28 2012, 09:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 27-February 12 From: Nebraska, USA Member No.: 50,732 |
Ive found that a decent combo for a fist fighter is Chain mail and FFBA, its not to expensive and gives a reasonable evened out armor stat (Plus, cmon....its CHAINMAIL...it just screams badass)
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Mar 28 2012, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 27-February 12 From: Nebraska, USA Member No.: 50,732 |
QUOTE (JonathanC @ Mar 28 2012, 02:43 PM) Can you imagine watching security cameras in the 2070s? "Sir, there's a....foppish ork dandy and an elf in a hoop skirt and corset penetrating the south perimeter." "Sound the alarm and don your tophats! We've got Shadowrunners!" I say there chap, would you be so kind as to drop your guns and put up your hands. No? Very well then. ::Pulls out a white glove and slaps the foppish ork:: Have at you! |
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Mar 28 2012, 10:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,700 Joined: 1-July 10 Member No.: 18,778 |
When you see a troll in a steampunk suit, fairy wings, a Dr. Who scarf, and four hats, you know shit is going down.
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Mar 29 2012, 06:01 AM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,463 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Oh no! He is wearing a scarf! And fairy wings! Grab the rocket launcher!
Bye Thanee |
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Mar 29 2012, 06:21 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,507 Joined: 11-November 08 Member No.: 16,582 |
Thor shot this fashion victim, to put him out of his misery!
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