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post Apr 15 2012, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (Vegetaman @ Apr 14 2012, 06:59 PM) *
Between Shadowrun Returns and the DoubleFine point and click adventure game, I am stoked. Finally, I can spend money on what *I* want to see!
Finally a way to vote with our money and have it mean something.

The slathering vidiots who buy whatever the magazines tell them, or whatever FPS they can swear at people in while being ungodly in skill in, won't affect our RPGs and in depth storytelling, as well as problem solving requirements.
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post Apr 15 2012, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Vegetaman @ Apr 14 2012, 06:59 PM) *
Between Shadowrun Returns and the DoubleFine point and click adventure game, I am stoked. Finally, I can spend money on what *I* want to see!



There's also Takedown, The Banner Saga, and of course, my personal favorite, Velociraptor! Cannibalism! Although I might be a little biased, what with being on the design team....

I also picked up FTL: Faster Than Light, just for good measure.
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:36 AM
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Should we tip in a little more cash so we can get the multiple endings of the adventure in 3 colours? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 16 2012, 09:36 AM) *
Should we tip in a little more cash so we can get the multiple endings of the adventure in 3 colours? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
Okay, spoiler warning obviously:

That only happens in the third installation of the game series "Shadowrun Returns Again and Again". The Horrors are coming back to devour the Earth and a little dragon child will give you three choices: Explode magic, killing everything magical in the process. Merge with Dunkelzahn and destroy the bridge between the worlds with the help of the Dragon Heart, postponing the inevitable coming of the Horrors. Turn every living being on Earth into a thorn-tormented magical creature, so that the Horrors lose interest and go pester the dragons on Mars (so called Alachia solution). Unfortunately every wheel on Earth explodes regardless of you choice... something to do with magic...

In Shadowrun Returns you only get to choose to either save the United Corporate Council of Seattle or let them die and stack the new council with shadowrunners.
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (lokii @ Apr 16 2012, 09:23 AM) *
Okay, spoiler warning obviously:

That only happens in the third installation of the game series "Shadowrun Returns Again and Again". The Horrors are coming back to devour the Earth and a little dragon child will give you three choices: Explode magic, killing everything magical in the process. Merge with Dunkelzahn and destroy the bridge between the worlds with the help of the Dragon Heart, postponing the inevitable coming of the Horrors. Turn every living being on Earth into a thorn-tormented magical creature, so that the Horrors lose interest and go pester the dragons on Mars (so called Alachia solution). Unfortunately every wheel on Earth explodes regardless of you choice... something to do with magic...

In Shadowrun Returns you only get to choose to either save the United Corporate Council of Seattle or let them die and stack the new council with shadowrunners.


That was just awesome spoilers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

But which colour will be at which ending?
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 16 2012, 10:29 AM) *
But which colour will be at which ending?
Backers will be able to vote on this. To my mind that is a mistake though. The colour of your ending is such a fundamental design decision. It literally colours in the emotional impact of your story. No offense but such an important decision should not be left to amateurs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
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post Apr 16 2012, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (lokii @ Apr 16 2012, 03:48 AM) *
Backers will be able to vote on this. To my mind that is a mistake though. The colour of your ending is such a fundamental design decision. It literally colours in the emotional impact of your story. No offense but such an important decision should not be left to amateurs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)

Clearly it should depend on the level of your Street Cred versus that of your Notoriety.
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Apr 16 2012, 04:35 PM) *
Clearly it should depend on the level of your Street Cred versus that of your Notoriety.


But that can only be applied if you get enough karma from actual pen and paper shadowrun with friends.
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM
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how come?
if both of those rise depending on what you do, then you can do a simple check which is higher and display the apropriate ending O.o
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 16 2012, 02:33 PM) *
how come?
if both of those rise depending on what you do, then you can do a simple check which is higher and display the apropriate ending O.o


I think you missed the joke.

Who gets to vote is dependent on their street cred and notoriety.

At least, that's how *I* read it.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:08 PM
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oy . . yeah, i missed that one <.<
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:11 PM
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Overall, it was a joke as to the awful ending of Mass Effect 3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:14 PM
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ok, i will admit this once and never ever again . .
i haven't played a single mass effect part yet . . .
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 16 2012, 04:14 PM) *
ok, i will admit this once and never ever again . .
i haven't played a single mass effect part yet . . .


Me either. And I'm ok with that.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:19 PM
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The first game was really good; the second game was more action-gamey, for better and worse, and I haven't played the third one yet.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:23 PM
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So... I've been thinking about this for a while.

Black ending will be no one noticing anything. Those buildings and those people never existed.

Pink ending will be trolls bow adepts shooting arrows that are in fact dwarves dual wielding chainsaws at everyone and everything exploding.

Not sure about the third color though.

I did have an idea about the rainbow ending, where everyone become best friends and work together to make the world a better place, but somehow I don't think it fits.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 16 2012, 03:14 PM) *
ok, i will admit this once and never ever again . .
i haven't played a single mass effect part yet . . .


Neither have I.
You can't miss what you are not really interested in in the first place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 17 2012, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE ("Keith")
"What we need to do as fans is make it clear we want depth, we want customization, we want a breathing/living world. What we don't want is a sequential railroad of missions in a world we feel is extremely static and just waiting for us to show up to. Many of us have praised the Genesis' method of sprinkling random encounters/events and random-generated runs that kept things interesting during the 'none main story' periods. It was glorious. Let them know this is how we feel."


This.
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post Apr 17 2012, 07:30 AM
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Stahlseele, what was this famous game series you have not yet played? I cannot quite remember. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE (silva @ Apr 17 2012, 04:16 AM) *
This.
Random generation has it's own problems though, because once you learn the pattern it usually loses its appeal at least story-wise. I have yet to see a game that passes the "Turing test" in terms of algorithmic story writing. Not that there many games with random plot generation to begin with. I think if Harebrained Schemes makes a lot side quest runs and the mission editor enables the community to be make a lot of new ones, we should be set. (By the way I'm a huge fan of random generation and would love to see it working, I just think it is hard to do well.)

Another thought regarding a "living world". Would it bother you if people in the game world start to chat you up on a particularly successful run, because that is a common method of reflecting your character's development or progress through the story back to you? Of course that has always been a contradiction in Shadowrun itself. On the one hand you are SINless and there is this silent agreement to not persecute deniable assets because they are so useful for everyone, on the other hand corporations are vindictive and deniable assets are hunted all the time (as in major plot device). Being available to meeting new Johnsons is risky even if they have been vetted by your fixer. And certainly chatting about your runs on matrix shadow boards or being famous for certain runs in general doesn't seem to be something you want to happen.

One way to achieve a world that feels alive is having lots of news items and populating it with other runners or shadow folk, whose fate you can follow (people come and go, live and die). Both could be run on some form of random schedule.

Lastly, was there ever any mention of a character editor for making new runner companions or does that interfere with the rewards for backers?
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post Apr 17 2012, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 15 2012, 12:01 AM) *
There's also Takedown, The Banner Saga, and of course, my personal favorite, Velociraptor! Cannibalism! Although I might be a little biased, what with being on the design team....

I also picked up FTL: Faster Than Light, just for good measure.



Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, how did I miss this? Velociraptor! Cannibalism!

Is this like Munchkin with dinosaurs? And by that I mean, "can I get wasted and yell at people while playing this?"
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post Apr 17 2012, 07:55 AM
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you can get wasted and yell at people playing chess . .
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:43 AM
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You can smack the everliving crap out of each other.
While playing chess.
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post Apr 17 2012, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 17 2012, 12:55 AM) *
you can get wasted and yell at people playing chess . .


Psh. I want to get drunk and yell at LOTS of people. Need a bigger game than chess.
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post Apr 17 2012, 01:44 PM
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Crap! Over a million bucks? 1,175,990, and 11 days to go.

Do you think that the donation level will hit 1.5 million?
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post Apr 17 2012, 02:38 PM
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Realistically speaking, even if they only get 50k per day, yes, they will make it.
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