 All talent, no skill, How viable is this concept? |
  |
 Oct 2 2012, 12:24 PM
Post
#26
|
|
|
Advocatus Diaboli  Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282  |
Good point, Stahlseele! For the concept presented, and given all the cash spent, you'd really *have* to explain the lack of skillwires.
|
 |
 
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 12:26 PM
Post
#27
|
|
|
Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2012, 12:24 PM)  Good point, Stahlseele! For the concept presented, and given all the cash spent, you'd really *have* to explain the lack of skillwires. Isn't skillwires EXTREMELY expensive nowadays? |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 12:26 PM
Post
#28
|
|
|
Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 1 2012, 10:09 PM) It can be a confusing quality, especially since you can be incompetent in one skill, and a master of a closely related skill (incompetence in pistols but a skill of 6 in longarms, for example). I took incompetent in gunnery while having a fantastic longarms skill. My logic is that the character just can't make heads or tails over using a weapon that he doesn't have his hands directly on. |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 12:28 PM
Post
#29
|
|
|
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2012, 08:24 PM) Good point, Stahlseele! For the concept presented, and given all the cash spent, you'd really *have* to explain the lack of skillwires. I get skillwires 4 packaged with my restricted gear (Move-By-Wire 2) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 01:08 PM
Post
#30
|
|
|
Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Oct 2 2012, 05:28 AM) I get skillwires 4 packaged with my restricted gear (Move-By-Wire 2) However, At 10,000 Nuyen per Rating point of Skill, That is expensive. Not counting option costs. |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 01:15 PM
Post
#31
|
|
|
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 2 2012, 09:08 PM) However, At 10,000 Nuyen per Rating point of Skill, That is expensive. Not counting option costs. Ironically, were it not for the limited nuyen resources in chargen skillsofts would be a better option than genuine skills (2 BP/rank to 4BP/rank, or 4 Karma/rank regardless of rating verses 4+ karma per rank, depending on rating... and that's not factoring in some of the skillsoft packages available in unwired!) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 01:17 PM
Post
#32
|
|
|
Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Oct 2 2012, 06:15 AM) Ironically, were it not for the limited nuyen resources in chargen skillsofts would be a better option than genuine skills (2 BP/rank to 4BP/rank, or 4 Karma/rank regardless of rating verses 4+ karma per rank, depending on rating... and that's not factoring in some of the skillsoft packages available in unwired!) This is true, but once play starts, you now have a pretty severe Nuyen cost for those skills, and they will never advance beyond the Skill 4 level. *shrug* Of course, if you are netting several Million per run, that is of no consequence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 01:20 PM
Post
#33
|
|
|
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 2 2012, 09:17 PM) This is true, but once play starts, you now have a pretty severe Nuyen cost for those skills, and they will never advance beyond the Skill 4 level. *shrug* Of course, if you are netting several Million per run, that is of no consequence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Several million per run? why would anyone hang out with such small-timers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 01:43 PM
Post
#34
|
|
|
Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Oct 2 2012, 06:20 AM) Several million per run? why would anyone hang out with such small-timers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Heh... Indeed... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 02:26 PM
Post
#35
|
|
|
The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Also, with a bit of creative tinkering, for the cost of the BP for Money and restricted gear and a 4/4 warez network group contact and a tricked out comlink with maxed out search you can have every skill soft in the game for 10% of the listi price in 3 days in game time.
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 03:44 PM
Post
#36
|
|
|
Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 2 2012, 07:26 AM) Also, with a bit of creative tinkering, for the cost of the BP for Money and restricted gear and a 4/4 warez network group contact and a tricked out comlink with maxed out search you can have every skill soft in the game for 10% of the listi price in 3 days in game time. Long as you do not mind the upkeep cost of your skills as they degrade (Now that they are cracked). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
|
|
|
|
Oct 2 2012, 04:00 PM
Post
#37
|
|
|
Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Not expensive enough that a few specific skills wouldn't be worth it to Mr. Trust Fund here, The Jopp.
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 3 2012, 01:03 AM
Post
#38
|
|
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Oct 2 2012, 04:28 AM) I get skillwires 4 packaged with my restricted gear (Move-By-Wire 2) That really doesn't fit the concept. I mean, I can see things like muscle toner or cerebral boosters, that make a character feel better because they are stronger, smarter, etc. But I have a harder time seeing a rich kid too lazy to learn any practical skills getting a piece of 'ware that makes you twitchy and can't be turned off. It's more the kind of thing a hardcore street samurai would get. I can see the temptation, though - move-by-wire is a great package deal. |
|
|
|
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 6th June 2025 - 02:12 AM |
Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.