Hmmmmm... From top to bottom - Outstanding Physical Marines to Outstanding/Good Athletes to Good Army to Good Physical Health to Okay Navy to "The Air Force works out?" But that could just be my Marine Corps Bias talking... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They do tend to do that.

I could also say that about Mortar Bases, Heavy Machine Gun Tripods, and the SMAW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
19:03 was my absolute best in my Final PFT of Boot Camp (MCRD San Diego for the win). I tended to average about 22 minutes for most of my Marine career (ran a 44 Minute Camp Pendleton 10k in NCO School), but did slow down the last year or two. Of course, running with Chronic Bursitis (in the hips) is always fun, which I unfortunately picked up in Boot camp. *shrug*

Trelk.

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Don't let the last episode discourage you too much. You'll understand why us Farscape fans consider Firefly fans cry babies when they talk about their show getting cancelled.

I was WAY pissed off about the ending of the last Episode, until I found the Movie. In fact, Pissed off does not even cover it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The shenanigans that Sci-Fi pulled were beyond the pale. Sci-Fi was entirely in support of the show then pulled the rug out from under them.

Here's a write-up of the events that transpired and how the likely lead to the cancellation.... It's apparently Michael Jackson's fault....

Interesting Reading... Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My recruiter personally knows an Army Ranger who went Marines and stated that Ranger School is easier than Marine Boot Camp. I also personally know a female Marine who's in the last leg of her OCS who picked up a CIA/FBI application that specifically looked for Army Delta Force, Navy SEALs, Air Force Pararescue, or Marines. Not Marine Snipers, not Marine Recon, just Marines. It's been rightly said that the Marines are their own branch of elite military who have their own elite groups inside it.

Indeed... And we are damned proud of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

See the first line of my sig. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

He's wrong or misleading for dramatic effect. The failure rate is not comparable. There was a 42% graduation rate from Ranger school last year IIRC. What is the graduation rate from boot camp? I'm told it is career death for the few Marines who get selected to go to ranger school to fail, but they select officers and NCOs to attend and they select and train to avoid becoming the 60% of failures who fail in the first 3 days due to PT, Land Nav, 15.5 mile foot march or the combat water survival course (in other words, they were not properly prepared).

Sorry couldn't resist ^^
Also I heard a story a while back and Im not sure how true it is, but it is related to that notion.
So I heard that in some sort of exchange program Navy SEALs visited one of our special forces branches. As a fun exercise they were invited to try the mandatory obstacle course and failed admirably.
Worth noting is that this particular branch (known as fallskärmsjägarna "parachute hunters") are considered one of the best Artic climate special forces in the world, they train in the 'where hell freezes over' part of the country and it's likely that this story is severely exaggerated for some national chestbeating pride.

I didn't say anything about the failure rate, I was talking about the whole experience. The PT, the DIs, the length, the mental stress - all of it. Also note I said Army Rangers and not Delta Force or Pararescue - there are definite degrees of elite out there.

We can go back and forth with different branches and their _____ contests, but from everything I've seen, read, and heard, Marine boot is worse than some other branches' lower-tier special ops.

*sniffs* Whew, the testosterone in here is rather thick, someone open a window. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

are you nuts?
there's like . . . fresh air out there . . . that's poison to any good nerdery <.<

.... fresh air, and sunlight ...!!! O_O

(Well, not exactly RIGHT NOW ... really it's rather dark out there ... which only means I might TRIP AND FALL ... geeze, why would anyone want to go out there...?

Ranger school is a patrolling and small unit leadership SCHOOL. It's run by the Infantry School. RASP is the selection course, it is run by the Ranger Regiment and traditionally has about a 30% graduation rate.

Navy SEALS
Marine Recon
Army Rangers
Air Force...... Um... Para-rescue (IIRC).

The all have their purpose and roles in the grand scheme. No one is fully better than any other (Though I'll always side with the SEALS for obvious reason.).

After 12 years of service; I still find it amusing that the Navy has it's on lingo besides the acronyms.
Head, Bulkhead, Overhead, Deck, Swab, Cadillac, Scuttlebutt, Gee dunk, etc...

Pogeybait, Squid...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That's just mariner talk innit?
Yet to hear someone call right bloody right on a boat...

Well,
Port is a place where you park a boat
and a Starboard is much like a Surfboard, but for star surfing.

As a Marine, I used Right and Left, personally. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Head, deck, eyes, bird, butterbar, chow, jarhead, ink stick, rack, LPCs... Marines have their own lingo too.

Marine'r' not Marine, as in seafarer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yeah, I know... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Some of which we share with the Navy Squids.

One of the first RPGS I boutgh other than D&D. I have fond memories of taking out bumpers with 40mm HEDP grenades. Nothing like playing the 40+ year old Colonel with one of the last M1A2's in the western front. Youngest PC I ever made was a 15 year old East german kid with an AK-47......