Sorry, accidentally double-posted...

Grab my magazine of Stick n'Shock! That shit's expensive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Is that in your vest, or on the ground? I still need to loot you to reload your ingram. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

He dropped it on the balcony over by the bar about where the earth elemental is.

Whoops!


...speaking of which, is it possible to get an updated map for this new combat turn?

Still need to know if the earth spirit defended against the air elementals attack.

Also stepping to where your spells and spirits cant hurt it doesn't mean its gone away. It does have ranged attack powers that can pass through the ward without a problem because it has free access through the ward.

Against the plant spirits attack it got 7 hits guess it will use another point of edge to avoid damage. 4 more hits.

Against the free attack it got only 3 hits. guess it will use another point of edge to avoid damage. 4 more hits.

Are you taking the time to frisk the maitre d for more ammo?

Its not too out of date. Ill try to update it tomorrow. I'm out tonight and not by a computer.

Oh, sorry, I forgot about the earth spirit's defense. It will also edge the test and get 5 hits to avoid the attack.

I was looking through the rules for mana barriers, and nothing seems to indicate that spells and magic attacks would be able to pass through it freely even if it were created by an attuned creature. According to p. 194 of SR4A, barriers do not affect their creators or those they attune, however it does not say the effects created by them are unaffected. Spells and other magic created have separate (though linked) astral signatures from their creators, and as such would still be blocked or diminished by a ward.

I won't take the time to frisk him, just grabbing loose stuff if I can.

Okay so closing my eyes and saying "I don't believe in magic!" hasn't worked out so far,

Silas :

Free action : the drone explodes .. "Drekk it !" dive for the nearest cover I can see
AGI 9 + Gymanstics 3 + SYNTHA 3 - STUN 1 - DISOR 2
(12d6.hits(5)=7) -- with this roll I want to have walked on air and vanished into the ceileng cavity .. lol .. typical dice

Simple action : Holster pistol, I have a feeling it's not going to be any use

Simple action : Activate Chameleon suit and attempt to "hide hide hide from the angry spirit"
AGI 9 + INFIL 3 - STUN 1 - DISOR 2
(9d6.hits(5)=5)
chameleon suit -4 to perception tests

Does not affect means does not effect.

Spells and powers are an extension of the caster. If a mana barrier doesn't affect the caster, it doesn't affect their spells/powers either. Also here's are forum thread discussing it with most everybody agreeing that the line 'mana barriers do not affect their creators' to mean that the creators and thereby their authorized spirits can cast freely through it.

Page 194 also talks about how certain ranged and sustained powers may suffer at the GMs choice. If it's the GMs choice regarding regular critter use of such powers, I would certainly say that an authorized critter can use ranged and sustained powers through the ward.

You don't immediately see any extra ammo on the maitre d' then. Remember he was the head of security disguised as a maitre d'. His holster and anything else on him was concealed.

The pistol is a Super Warhawk. Loaded with APDS rounds. I believe he only got one shot off, right? So it would have 5 bullets left in it.

You might be better served to just charge one of the other glass doors and smash it with your sword. But if you want to just into the ceiling high above you (this is a banquet hall with the typical vaulted ceilings) I'll allow it.

sorry, that was a bit of sarcasm on my part aimed at my dice rolling,

as Eclipse and I both go at the same time, I'm happy to have the movement choice remain this IP as I stated I was charging the drone.

I know I could change it, but it's all for the fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so, up I go, with the aim of going over the spirit in subsequent IP's or round it if I can get to the opening.

Right now I'm trying to just stay out of it's field of vision

I'll give you that it says the creators of barriers are unaffected, and we'll overlook whether this allows spells to pass through or not as (I'm assuming) the creator of the ward won't be here doing that right now. But I don't see where the line from the book gives the creator the ability to allow others to do more than "see through them or pass through them".

...in any case, where are we in initiative? Beginning of second pass now? Or do we need actions from Mr. White first.

White and Acson are headed for the opening out onto the balcony.

Sorry for the delay. Had a busy weekend and work is overwhelming today as well.
I've updated the map with the latest movement. Technically, Gardner should still be over near the bar since we haven't gotten to his turn yet. But It's ok, nothing is going to prevent him from moving to the maitre d's body to grab the pistol.

About that Gardner I understand that you have an issue with my interpretation of the rules regarding the authorized spirit and the ward. The whole reason I moved him through the ward was with my interpretation in mind. But I don't see it as important enough to argue over at this point. So instead of continuing to attack those of you on the balcony, he will instead just focus on those inside the banquet hall that are trying to get out.

To that end, Mr. White should note the position of the air spirit by the shattered doorway. If you or Parker Acson try to go through it, he will it a free attack as you try to run past him.

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Meanwhile, I still need to post actions for the one guard still inside the banquet hall. "You fuckers aren't going to get away with this!"

I don't think this is going to be effective at all, but he's firing blindly up into the whole in the ceiling that Silas jumped into. With the first shot he got 1 hit. and no hits on the second shot.

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Following his turn, Gardner moves to the maitre d's body and grabs his gun.

Needle's heart is pumping like it's never done before as she unstably flies through the seattle night sky.

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The phantasm mage invisibly runs further away from the team.

The two new drones high above progress 10 meters towards the balcony.

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Then we are too Mr. White's turn.

Mr. White, you have the option of delaying if you want to try to avoid an attack. Since you only have 1 pass, you can delay to any of the other passes.

On the other hand, the Spirit only has one Free Action, if you move past it now, it might get an attack for free, but it can only get one of you. That goes for Silas getting out as well.

I can't really help you make a decision in character, but that's a bit of rules knowledge that not everyone might remember...

Well poop.

I'm disinclined to have White and Acson run past an air spirit like its a fraternity hazing.

White doesn't have a gun on him though to be able to shoot out another of the balcony windows. Any firearms lying about?

Dak, just making sure you noticed my post right before yours, you probably didn't see it before you posted.


Actually, since I'm thinking about it. Looking through the rules for barriers/wards I never found anything about how long it takes (if any). It lists the roll needed to press through a ward, but not if it takes a separate action. So a GM call on pressing through a ward? The way I read it, the roll is made when attempting to go through, no action needed. Failure has different effects depending on the creature and circumstances:

• Astral creature: Failure means the astral form does not move forward, (possible action to try again?)
• Dual Natured: Creature fails to move through ward, can (generally) choose to stop? If the creature is being forced through (moving through do to gravity, momentum etc.) then they fall unconscious (Fill Stun boxes). That ruling is in Street Magic I believe, and is one of the basis for why I don't think it is an action to press through. If a creature is being forced through a ward they still get a check even if they aren't pressing through actively.
• Physical creature (with active magic): Failure causes all spells to be disrupted, foci deactivated, etc. Not sure if one could choose to not move through if you fail...

Ahh thanks Kiirmodel, I did miss your post.

White is not exactly a tank. Its a tad tempting to try to go ahead and dash by the spirit and hope it just bite the bullet, but that could end badly.

I'm going to have him delay for the time being, and he'll tell Acson, "Hold up a moment.." Hoping that the spirit will move or perhaps be neutralized.

Ok, That's fine. To answer you're earlier question, the dead guards by kitchen doors each had a pistol on them if you were wanting to go for one of those.

They're not close by, I think, so I'm not going back across the room for a gun.

Yeah, I've never seen anything that says pushing through a ward takes an action. For a basic ward failure would mean movement for that pass is halted. You could try again next pass. Keep in mind though, that is the response for a basic ward. There are other types of wards such as the charged ward the team encountered in the last mission which attacks back against anybody that tries to press through it or cast a spell through it; or the trap ward that lets you push through it only long enough for it to solidify around you and trap you inside.

True, the closest of them is about 18m away from you. I was just giving you the info since you were asking.

I suppose we can go ahead and move forward with IP2.

Gardner was your Earth Spirit going to do anything in IP1? And what is your Plant Spirit doing now that the air spirit is on the other side of the ward?

"You and me, Randy Jones ! .... we are going to have words!"

REA 7 - 2 DISOR -1 STUN
(4d6.hits(5) =2)
yay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

on my next IP **EDIT**
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Silas will, as I think he is close enough .. seeing as Mr. White and Acson have come to a skidding halt, dive bomb out of the rafters and hopefully smeg me some air spirit.
AGI 9 + BLADES 5 + GRIP 1 + HEIGHT 2 + CHARGE 2 - 2 DISOR -1 STUN
(16d6.hits(5) =4)

I have no idea what the hell it is and if
8P
-2AP
-1 DEFENSE
will do anything to it

which side I land is up to you, it (un / fortunately ?) doesn't get a free attack until I move OUT of combat with it. but I'm there at least, ready to do ... something ... possibly something stupid