So, now that we've got the book, I'm curious. Just what in the world are starting Street Samurai supposed to spend their money on? With the availability cap at 12 per the rules, you cannot buy :

Wired Reflexes above Rating 2
Titanium Bone Lacing
Reaction Enhancers above 2
Cyberskulls
Skillwires above 3
Dermal plating above 3
Syperthyroid


I understand the goal was to leave room for growth, but seriously, I'm having a bit of trouble actually spending 450k nuyen here! What are you folks spending that sweet cash on? Heck, I can't even by my poor troll an assault cannon, they're all availability 20.

You forgot to add
muscle replacement above 2
muscle toners above 2
muscle augmentation above 2

but cyberlimbs can get up to +4 STR and AGI right of the gate.

They can, but you can't use them if they would go over your racial maximums. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

I agree that Restricted Gear should have been included.
But I wouldn't expect a GM with having trouble with a player taking restricted gear for 4 karma.

Part of the problem also is that for a book with almost 500 pages, there really just plain isn't that much cyber and bio in here beyond the usual must-haves.

gotta sell those splat books somehow.

You cannot "customize" above racial max.

However, you can "customize" and then add Enhancements.

My STreet Sam, Shadow Ron, took the following 'ware:

Cybereyes 2 Alpha,
Bone Lacing, ALuminum
Dermal Plate 2 Beta
Reaction Enhancers 2 Alpha
Wired 2
Muscle Toner 2

Throw in some weapons, some lifestyle, a stack of APDS rounds, a SIN, and a Bike, and I actually had to spend some freebie karma on extra money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ummm... From what I have heard, Betaware is NOT available at character creation.

It isn't. Device rating 6, Availability 12, and Standard or Alphaware only are the stated limits.

Math fail. edited because I failed at the math.

Gah, you're right. Should be Alphaware. Wrote it on my sheet wrong (I was looking at beta at one point).

Essence cost is right for Alpha anyway.

Got it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Eh, not math fail. WIerd version of dyslexia fail. I'm really good at thinking one thing and writing down something completely different on occasion. I do it with friends names all the time. I'll be looking at one friend and call him by the name of another friend who's with us.

Um...wasn't this the case in SR4 as well? I don't recall seeing many high-rating skillwires on starting characters, and the availability on R3 Wired Reflexes and Dermal Plating have always been high.

edited the post because I did the math wrong.

But since I have you attention Bull, did the archetypes spend their karma and where are the street sams' contacts.

In SR4 there was no avail raise on customizing cyberware so Wired 2 alpha had the same avail as Wired 2..

Bull didn't write all the archetypes, and I think the Street Samurai's contacts is already something that's been mentioned in the errata thread.

As of right now, Murphy's sitting on :

Aluminum Bone Lacing
Reaction Enhancer 2 Alpha
Wireless Reflexes 1 Alpha (The Alphaware bump to availability makes 2 out of bounds)
Muscle Aug 2
Muscle Toner 2
Orthoskin 3
Flare Compensation
Smartlink

That's 245k, and 4.93 essence worth of stuff. I could probably blow more cash if I started putting on cyberlimbs, but since his physical stats are already high as an Ork, they'd be somewhat of a waste.

I mentioned it awhile ago in that thread, but since I've got a guy on the line discussing things, figured I'd ask again.

Suppose you could alphaware the non-alpha'd cyber, presuming it doesn't push over the availability line (no book to check, just spitballing here).

Only things that would affect are the eyemods and Bone Lacing. The Smartlink and comp are trivial, and don't really get any effect from it; the bone lacing is already availability 12 stock, so it can't be done.

I'm actually tempted to drop his resources further, cut about half of my costs here, and pump it all into skills. Might be more bang for the buck, and I can clearly manage a decent cyberware suite on less money.

Not a bad idea, really. Then you've got Essence to spare down the line when the nice cyber/bio you want becomes available and your dice pools are either higher or leave fewer "oh, shit!" holes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think they did, but I didn't build them. But I don't know why they wouldn't have?

And Contacts probably left off by accident. Be sure to note that in the SR Tabletop Forum Errata Thread: http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?board=12.0

Thanks

Bull

And just a note, it was memory fail. Shadow Ron has Attributes A, not Money, so he spent a bit over 250,000¥ on the cyber listed above.

Bull