Schedule will slip anyway. It's not really "anyone's" fault, its just the nature of Kickstarter projects that most people doing them don't have a good idea of how long things take. And they're more willing to let deadlines slide for a better product.

My own KS project is over a year (nearing 18 months) past when we said it'd be available, but quality skyrocketed as a result. Our delivery date was based on the pipedream of having to do a tiny print run of like a dozen copies that we'd have pushed through Game Crafter. We had over 700 people want a copy. As a result, we found a publisher and are doing a very large print run, and negotiations took time, as well as completely redoing the artwork,* so delivery got pushed back.

*Original Revamped

Well, yes, and you have stuff like Leaving Megalopolis where they wound up adding a whole bunch more content and such, and then got serious delays imposed by a hurricane. My point was more that it is simply not realistic for a print run of reasonable scale to be 2-3 weeks out and not already be to the printers. IF CGL were to do something like that, the gap between the PDF and print release would be much larger.

i think you missed it. they said there would be like 2-3 days for people to get errata in according to his earlier post... so that 2-3 weeks is basically all time at the printers, pretty much.

Been talking with the remaining members here that are left from our beta testing days. We at least figured out how we missed it originally in third Ed (when it changed). The core book was the one book we were not involved in, or we'd have surely raised all holy hell over that situation.

So after rereading all the spells from 3rd thru to 5th, and then coming back here... New question arises. As the 5th edition mind probe is written, LOS is not needed. In much the same way that Detect Enemies and Detect Object do not require LOS. Or did that get thrashed out somehow too where those spells no longer work on items that aren't in LOS. I mean really, why have a detection sense spell that only detects a LOS enemy when one could,do that anyway without the spell in the first place?

Well, the ability to pick out a hostile in a crowd of civilians has its useful.

so far as i can tell, you are correct; you don't (officially) need LOS on someone to mind probe them any more than you need LOS to view an area with clairvoyance or to detect life (or enemies; i just chose those two specific spells because imo they demonstrate even better than detect enemies how useless they would be if you could only detect things in LOS).

you are, of course, free to change that for your own games. personally, i would be inclined to at *minimum* require LOS when the individual is selected (barring ritual magic, of course), but i don't think even that is technically required in the current version.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned: on page 420, stun baton is listed as having both +2 and +4 concealability.

Page 439: "All cyberdecks include illegal hot-sim modules right out of the box." But the table shows all cyberdecks as Restricted.

using it with a cyberdeck is probably just about the only legitimate legal use of one. well, that and rigging i guess... can't recall offhand if the rigger's gear comes with it, but if it does then when are you going to ever have a legitimate need to use hotsim apart from having those specific devices?

If printing books is anything like pressing CDs, the correct wording would be "when you have to hit your target date". Your time slot at the pressing plant is booked far in advance, if you don't use it you still have to pay AND queue up for another slot a few months further down the road. That's the reason why a lot of games get a patch right on release day, no matter how many bugs still are on the list the master copy absolutely has to go out.


Anyway, the German printing has already been announced to receive the customary errata...but before you break out the champagne or book language classes, the process must have been mildly disorganized, there will probably not even be a changelog...
Then again, for 19.95 I'll still have to buy the book, damn you Pegasus! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

So does that mean some dilligent German dumpshocker is going to buy it and translate all the errata for us? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Depends on whether you find anyone willing to do a side-by-side comparison of a 500 page book. Personally, I'd rather type in Lavabit's SSL keys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Page 363, the maglocks: The first step to bypassing a maglock is to remove the case and access the maglock’s electronic guts. That step is described, complete with how to bypass tamperproof systems, and we also get told how to put on the case again. What is suspiciously absent is the meat part in between, how do I actually bypass the electronics inside?

The test required to bypass the lock is dependent on the type of device and is covered in the paragraphs immediately following the one you quoted.

The entries for the individual verification types list how to bluff your way past the "front door", with synthesized DNA, fake fingerprints, etc.. With the exception of the keypad, it does not tell you how to rewire the internals to open the lock, and just having that option for one type of input would be extremely weird.

Both keypad and key card can be bypassed this way, which I think is the intent of the developers, in this case. Other maglock devices are simply to secure for a hardwire override.

Index, Page 468: Auctioneer Business Clothes, 437

Computing at its most basic level: Input, Processing, Output. Something takes an input from the user (keycard, passcode, iris pattern, anal circumference...), a second something checks whether the input is correct, and a third something performs the appropriate action. The whole point of rewiring is to bypass steps one and two and directly hotwire the actual locking mechanism. For more information, check SOTA:63, from which the 5th Ed security chapter was copied (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

So... If CGL is just going to Copy Paste editions, why should we ever buy new Editions? I mean really. *Shakes Head*

You could say the same of the vast majority of software - code is recycled all the time; why not perfectly serviceable and applicable text? It's not like the whole book is one big copy/paste job, anyways.

If I already have the text, why should I pay for it again?

You'd have a point if vast stretches of the book were simple copy/paste work. When it's a paragraph here and there in a text of this size, you do not.

And in point of fact had they written something new and it had been perceived as worse than what got copied, people would be asking why they couldn't just copy the old passage over.

SR5 is vast stretches of copied text from SR4. That said, your statement above is probably true... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
But then I have been asking that same question. I think SR5 is an epic failure when taken as a whole. Which is sad... It could have been so much more.

Large chunks of SR4 were copied out of SR3. When it comes to nonmechanical rules that stay the same, there's really no reason not to copy things.

Indeed... I understand it, esthetically, but financially it is a bad choice (especially for someone like me with little disposable income)... I really hate buying the relatively same ruleset multiple times...