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post Apr 17 2014, 06:26 PM
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The Immortals game (by Precedence) has an interesting take on that.

They have a power (cannot remember the name off the top of my head) that presents as what the viewer expects to see. You need not set it, just activate and go on about your business. Those who observe only see what they expect to see in the situation. If you carry a sword, and are dressed well, they may see a distinguished gentleman carrying a cane. If in a Military Officers uniform, they may see a swagger stick, etc. It was pretty awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 17 2014, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 17 2014, 08:09 PM) *
Called the Trenchcoat Effect in "Tales from the Floating Vagabond"
Fun game by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It's called Katana Space -- an n-dimensional fold in the fabric of the universe accessed from the inside of a trenchcoat folded across one's arm.

Lacking a blessed trenchcoat of holding, how about this: Cover the blade in latex paint and add some obviously completely useless colorful thingies on the hilt. "Of course that is a prop weapon officer, what did you think?"
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post Apr 17 2014, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 17 2014, 01:26 PM) *
The Immortals game (by Precedence) has an interesting take on that.

They have a power (cannot remember the name off the top of my head) that presents as what the viewer expects to see. You need not set it, just activate and go on about your business. Those who observe only see what they expect to see in the situation. If you carry a sword, and are dressed well, they may see a distinguished gentleman carrying a cane. If in a Military Officers uniform, they may see a swagger stick, etc. It was pretty awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


That's sounds like an old psychological ad parapsychology theory that if something is so out of place for our mind to accept it, it would be simply glossed over, and smaller inconsistencies would be also unnoticed at first (second glance effect) and result in a double take to accept the reality as ones own.

Magic could essentially wreck havoc with this.

QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 17 2014, 06:30 PM) *
It's called Katana Space -- an n-dimensional fold in the fabric of the universe accessed from the inside of a trenchcoat folded across one's arm.

Lacking a blessed trenchcoat of holding, how about this: Cover the blade in latex paint and add some obviously completely useless colorful thingies on the hilt. "Of course that is a prop weapon officer, what did you think?"


I can see that now:
"No officer it's a boffer Katana and an airsoft Ares Alpha with a replica under barrel grenade launcher. Yes the handgun is real. I'm a Larper not an idiot."
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post Apr 18 2014, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (Drace @ Apr 18 2014, 01:48 AM) *
Yes the handgun is real. I'm a Larper not an idiot."

I lol'd (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Although making an assault rifle look like an airsoft sounds a bit more complicated...
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post Apr 18 2014, 12:49 AM
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I've had a few instances where I had to tell my fellow airsofters to leave the Glock in place when they were searching me for intel.
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post Apr 18 2014, 01:31 PM
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If you're seriously carrying an actual firearm onto an airsoft field in the modern day, you need to seriously rethink your priorities in life.

There is such a thing as an idea too dumb to survive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Apr 18 2014, 01:51 PM
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Yet another way to play Russian Roulette.

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post Apr 18 2014, 01:58 PM
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When your one airsoft gun is an AK and your one actual firearm is a Glock, it gets real hard to cross them up.
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 18 2014, 07:58 AM) *
When your one airsoft gun is an AK and your one actual firearm is a Glock, it gets real hard to cross them up.


And yet the point still stands. *shrug* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 18 2014, 08:06 AM) *
And yet the point still stands. *shrug* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)


Sorry, it just occurred to me that you guys think I was playing airsoft in a city. My bad. I was playing out in the Olympic Mountains in Methlab Central for Washington State. It was literally a good week for the local Rangers if only one meth lab blew up on park grounds. There was also a rash of Mountain Lion attacks in the area we were playing in so carrying was actually a pretty good idea since we were up in the fire roads and away from the frequently travelled trails and the like. There was also an EMT and two sheriff's deputies playing in our group.
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 18 2014, 05:29 PM) *
Sorry, it just occurred to me that you guys think I was playing airsoft in a city. My bad. I was playing out in the Olympic Mountains in Methlab Central for Washington State. It was literally a good week for the local Rangers if only one meth lab blew up on park grounds. There was also a rash of Mountain Lion attacks in the area we were playing in so carrying was actually a pretty good idea since we were up in the fire roads and away from the frequently travelled trails and the like. There was also an EMT and two sheriff's deputies playing in our group.

..u carry a Glock?.. may i ask what model? myself have model 17 3gen..
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 18 2014, 08:29 AM) *
Sorry, it just occurred to me that you guys think I was playing airsoft in a city. My bad. I was playing out in the Olympic Mountains in Methlab Central for Washington State. It was literally a good week for the local Rangers if only one meth lab blew up on park grounds. There was also a rash of Mountain Lion attacks in the area we were playing in so carrying was actually a pretty good idea since we were up in the fire roads and away from the frequently travelled trails and the like. There was also an EMT and two sheriff's deputies playing in our group.


Ahhh... In that instance I would carry a Colt .45 Long Colt. My Favorite Hunting Handgun.
And would not be playing Airsoft or Paintball at the same time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 18 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 18 2014, 09:29 AM) *
Sorry, it just occurred to me that you guys think I was playing airsoft in a city. My bad. I was playing out in the Olympic Mountains in Methlab Central for Washington State. It was literally a good week for the local Rangers if only one meth lab blew up on park grounds. There was also a rash of Mountain Lion attacks in the area we were playing in so carrying was actually a pretty good idea since we were up in the fire roads and away from the frequently travelled trails and the like. There was also an EMT and two sheriff's deputies playing in our group.



Then you find another place to play. Seriously, the level of irresponsibility required to bring a real firearm into a game where you are shooting outwardly nearly identical airsoft guns at each other is nearly incomprehensible to me. All it takes is one spur of the moment slip and someone else is going to be needing that EMT that's with you because you couldn't understand basic safety principals for carrying a goddamn gun.
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post Apr 18 2014, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Apr 18 2014, 06:54 PM) *
Then you find another place to play. Seriously, the level of irresponsibility required to bring a real firearm into a game where you are shooting outwardly nearly identical airsoft guns at each other is nearly incomprehensible to me. All it takes is one spur of the moment slip and someone else is going to be needing that EMT that's with you because you couldn't understand basic safety principals for carrying a goddamn gun.

..didn't they shoot airsoft ak-47??? if one make mistake not realizing difference between ak-47( assault rifle type) and Glock pistol.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Apr 18 2014, 03:58 PM) *
When your one airsoft gun is an AK and your one actual firearm is a Glock, it gets real hard to cross them up.

If I got a dollar for every plant that blew up because somebody was sure that he'd always remember which of the two buttons to push and that nobody else would ever operate those buttons...

There is a damn good reason why dummy rounds and anything containing pyrotechnics are never to be mixed, not matter how different the calibers or how clearly they are painted.
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QUOTE (Stingray @ Apr 18 2014, 11:17 AM) *
..didn't they shoot airsoft ak-47??? if one make mistake not realizing difference between ak-47( assault rifle type) and Glock pistol.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)


Sure. Suppose, in all the running around, he drops that Glock. It probably won't go off, Glocks have pretty good safties against that sort of thing. But is everyone else on the field going to know that's not just a airsoft sidearm that was dropped before they take a shot at someone with it?

It's purely irresponsible.
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Apr 18 2014, 07:50 PM) *
Sure. Suppose, in all the running around, he drops that Glock. It probably won't go off, Glocks have pretty good safties against that sort of thing. But is everyone else on the field going to know that's not just a airsoft sidearm that was dropped before they take a shot at someone with it?

It's purely irresponsible.

..if LEO and etc. can not tell a difference...and real Fireams would be heavily strapped with multiple times to hold it in place. (or separate bag etc..)..
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The more this conversation goes on, the more I worry about the kind of people they give CCW licenses to these days. You really don't seem to understand much about safe firearms carry. LEOs, just like everyone else, have negligent discharges. It doesn't matter who you are, or how well you're trained, screwing around with a firearm on you makes you vulnerable to accidents that can kill people dead.
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Apr 18 2014, 08:02 PM) *
The more this conversation goes on, the more I worry about the kind of people they give CCW licenses to these days. You really don't seem to understand much about safe firearms carry. LEOs, just like everyone else, have negligent discharges. It doesn't matter who you are, or how well you're trained, screwing around with a firearm on you makes you vulnerable to accidents that can kill people dead.

..so if Place have lot of Bears (Alaska),Mountain Cats (Puma,Cougar), people have no right to Defend Him/Herself..and some states only carry option is CCW..
I would like to rail it back to original topic, Thank u !!
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Stingray @ Apr 18 2014, 10:10 AM) *
..so if Place have lot of Bears (Alaska),Mountain Cats (Puma,Cougar), people have no right to Defend Him/Herself..and some states only carry option is CCW..
I would like to rail it back to original topic, Thank u !!


That is not what he said - what he said was the carrying a live gun into an Airsoft "tournament" is inherently dangerous. It IS very easy to have it go wrong given circumstances (like a dropped gun that you never noticed was missing). The potential for "very bad things"™ to happen is there, and not everyone is going to know the gun is real as compared to an airsoft gun (the Individual had to tell others not to touch, which is an obvious issue at that point).
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QUOTE (Stingray @ Apr 18 2014, 07:10 PM) *
I would like to rail it back to original topic, Thank u !!

Complaining about derailment looks kinda dishonest if prefaced by an "answer" having nothing to do with the quoted post...
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QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 18 2014, 08:16 PM) *
Complaining about derailment looks kinda dishonest if prefaced by an "answer" having nothing to do with the quoted post...

..look at post 43,..
..just complaining people having a CCW..
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QUOTE (Stingray @ Apr 18 2014, 07:23 PM) *
..look at post 43,..
..just complaining people having a CCW..

I worry about the kind of people they give CCW licenses to these days.

Yeah, that's clearly expressing an aversion against people having a CCW in general. Just like saying "I worry about the kind of people they're hiring for this job nowadays" means you're opposed to people having jobs in general.
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Not to mention how near impossible it is in some states (I'm looking at my own) to get a CCW due to things like the "good cause" clause. Apparently the desire for self defense isn't good enough.
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http://time.com/63725/florida-concealed-weapons/


An interesting bill being debated right now and you won't even need that CCW, just a natural disaster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I still remember when I got my first bastard sword while finishing tech training in Denver and having to store it in the First sergeant's weapon locker (along with the commander's sabres and the FS's blade set so was in good company.).
Turned up at the front desk with a bastard sword in hand laying back on one shoulder asking to see the first shirt, the expression on the poor orderly's face was priceless as he was probably thinking this was about to be a Highlander moment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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