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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
I bought the cheap version and pay the monthly cost. The design goal being that Nic is getting really old and can't do the stuff he used to do. Jack does most of the manual labor around the shop, which is what I was suggesting in some of the first posts in the thread. No problems - like I said, it just so happens that in this particular run, he seems less a dependent and more of an auxiliary member of the team insofar as babysitting, protecting home base, etc. I'm not concerned - I'm sure the NQ will pop up with you having to cut short your time doing something else to help him lift an engine out of a car that was junked. |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
Just looking at it, I would suggest swing by Grease's to get the vehicle kit then go to Nic's and stay put. Working on what we need to work on.
If need be, Jack can pick up some Longhaul at a convenience store and stand guard for the next four days. He still has Edge left. (Depending on whether the team would trust Jack to stand watch while everyone else slept) |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
No problems - like I said, it just so happens that in this particular run, he seems less a dependent and more of an auxiliary member of the team insofar as babysitting, protecting home base, etc. I'm not concerned - I'm sure the NQ will pop up with you having to cut short your time doing something else to help him lift an engine out of a car that was junked. Also, it seems like my other contact that I've dealt with has turned into something of a dependent in any event, given that taking time off to help her has driven a spike of distrust through the team. LOL. |
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#3104
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 15-December 13 From: Detroit, MI, UCAS Member No.: 184,586 ![]() |
My guess is that for the Hardware kit, Overkill should really have bought one in char gen - Overkill, can we just deduct 500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) from your account and give you one on your character sheet? Certainly, Drave would have needed it in the past. |
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#3105
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 ![]() |
Certainly, Drave would have needed it in the past. Grease would be fine pulling the gun out of either drone and loaning it out. Practically, it would make a lot of sense to pull it out of Rhex as he is effectively scrapped. That makes a lot more IC sense than pulling both guns out and putting RHexs old one into the rotodrone. I am in favor of grease spending the majority of the evening fixing the rotodrone with overkill. Can I be fixing the physical damage while drave fixes the hardware, or does that need to take place in sequence? Sitting at the gate; can't really post ic. From a paranoia standpoint, grease would drop them at nics, then drive home to grab his tools and come back. He doesn't want these criminals knowing where he lives. Drz |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
Grease would be fine pulling the gun out of either drone and loaning it out. Practically, it would make a lot of sense to pull it out of Rhex as he is effectively scrapped. That makes a lot more IC sense than pulling both guns out and putting RHexs old one into the rotodrone. I am in favor of grease spending the majority of the evening fixing the rotodrone with overkill. Can I be fixing the physical damage while drave fixes the hardware, or does that need to take place in sequence? Sitting at the gate; can't really post ic. From a paranoia standpoint, grease would drop them at nics, then drive home to grab his tools and come back. He doesn't want these criminals knowing where he lives. Drz I don't have a problem with the two of you working on the two separate issues at the same time, rather than having Grease go first, then Overkill (or vice versa) - so assume both of you are working simultaneously. |
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#3107
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
From a paranoia standpoint, grease would drop them at nics, then drive home to grab his tools and come back. He doesn't want these criminals knowing where he lives. Cool. Are we waiting for any more input? I can't remember if Chrome has opined on this situation. I guess I could look but *lazy*. If not, I guess DrZ or Lobo needs to make a post where we change our minds and head back to Nic's? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 15-December 13 From: Detroit, MI, UCAS Member No.: 184,586 ![]() |
I am down for this plan.
Perhaps we can contact Church and set up buying an external Smartgun System for the AK; Drave doesn't like to shoot without one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
I'm going to wait until we hear from Chrome, he had suggested both a coffin motel and the abandoned house, my guess is because Amy wants to keep Sam and Kevin out of the firing line - I don't want to put up a post saying that you are all going there without Chrome's input.
In the meantime, if anyone is making calls to Chapel or any other contact, let me know, and I can resolve prices and times. |
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#3110
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
Well, we should probably make a single contact to Chapel if we're calling him for stuff. Would look mighty unprofessional if we were to hit him up with a bunch of individual requests.
Begrudgingly, Jack would request a Colt M23 w/Internal Smartgun & Shock Pad, 2 spare magazines, and 120 rounds of gel ammo. I think I have enough to cover that... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 15-December 13 From: Detroit, MI, UCAS Member No.: 184,586 ![]() |
Think I should get a Gas Vent or stick with the Suppressor?
Debating getting some APDS, but SOOO expensive, 2 Mags would be nearly 1k... Edit: Shock Pad also a must. I will make a full list before making the official call in game. Setting it up tonight so we can do it early tomorrow is a must though. |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
Think I should get a Gas Vent or stick with the Suppressor? For me, I can't really afford either. If we're both bringing ARs to an ambush, mine is going to get noticed, so... Debating getting some APDS, but SOOO expensive, 2 Mags would be nearly 1k... I think our goal is to capture rather than kill, based on my understanding of our requirements. You also need to consider the availability for the APDS. 12 might be tough to secure. I went with the lowest availability I could find to get the job done to help with reducing the delivery times. |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
And bear in mind, the ammo cost is 1.25 the cost in the book.
So for 2 clips for the AK97, which basically 80 rounds, that is 8 * 120, so 960, and then 960*1.25, for a total of 1200 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) Chapel gets guns cheaper, but not ammo. ETA, btw - OOC, I'm very happy you guys are feeling the pinch of needing cash - to me, that is quintessential Shadowrun, the runners hitting big paydays that leave them flush for a while, but then the realities of living in the shadows and the daily costs of the Free Zone forcing them to make rough decisions - and potentially taking a job they may not be crazy about because you have to be able to eat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can run a campaign where everyone is rich, and it is a different feeling, but I like this one better - hopefully it isn't too frustrating for you guys. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 15-December 13 From: Detroit, MI, UCAS Member No.: 184,586 ![]() |
I suppose Stick and Shock could do the job, it would be ideal as well since it goes through armor even better than APDS.
So as of right now, my shopping list is: 4 Spare Mags (So I can load up two Mags of the Explosive Ammo we recovered.) Shock Pad Gas Vent 2 80 Rounds of Stick & Shock Smartgun System, External(Top) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 15-December 13 From: Detroit, MI, UCAS Member No.: 184,586 ![]() |
ETA, btw - OOC, I'm very happy you guys are feeling the pinch of needing cash - to me, that is quintessential Shadowrun, the runners hitting big paydays that leave them flush for a while, but then the realities of living in the shadows and the daily costs of the Free Zone forcing them to make rough decisions - and potentially taking a job they may not be crazy about because you have to be able to eat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can run a campaign where everyone is rich, and it is a different feeling, but I like this one better - hopefully it isn't too frustrating for you guys. Not too frustrating, it adds to the realism to have to deal with things like actually having a budget. |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
Not too frustrating, it adds to the realism to have to deal with things like actually having a budget. I don't think it's too bad. From an economic realism perspective, our payday should be adjusted to account for the general boom-town inflation we're seeing in Denver (there are like two minor item categories that are below baseline SR5 prices, almost everything else is higher, in some cases significantly so), but that may have already been applied. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,696 Joined: 8-August 13 Member No.: 140,284 ![]() |
Sorry for the delay.
I thought it would be safer to go anywhere else than Nic's place for a while. If someone has to go there anyway, it's tempting to just say we might as well all go there and keep watch. Problem is, if we think it's ok to go there because we keep it safe, then how can we possibly leave after that without having resolved the problem? I'm not keen on the current plan, thinking as Amy would. More importantly, what is the likeliness that someone currently knows where we are? And about the economics of the game, I don't mind having a tight budget and being forced into difficult decisions. It will be especially challenging having started with a street character that needs money to get up to par (just the fake SIN will be most of her next month's expenses), but I welcome this as it will be interesting roleplay. The bigger paydays will feel especially rewarding, and in general we will be looking for ways to make money on the side (like Grease I guess, with pay data, loot, etc.). I've had this happen in a game before and we've come up with a run by ourselves because we badly needed the money and it was loads of fun. Poverty and desperation bring out the resourcefulness and creativity of all. |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
More importantly, what is the likeliness that someone currently knows where we are? I think this is an important piece to address. Let's go through the incidents that have heightened our paranoia so far: 1) Honeypot indicated that word was getting around that two elves were digging into Lone Star murders. A single reported incident would likely not have caused rumors to start. A pattern of it, however, might... but that would mean that someone would have had to have noticed Amy & Overkill at multiple locations. I guess it's possible that Truck and Falcon just hit up the murder scenes they knew they were involved in and checked to see if a pair of elves had shown up but it doesn't really explain how they knew that someone was sniffing around in the first place. 2) We know that members of Lynx's crew visited Schaefer's Diner shortly after Amy and Overkill were there to find out what they had been asking about. If I recall correctly, that was the 2nd stop in the murder investigation after our visit to QXT, which was really early in our investigation. Someone at the nightclub may have burned us with Lynx's crew. It's possible that the crew was monitoring the club given that it was the most recent murder in the series. 3) Truck showing up to murder Honeypot at the same time as the rally is either just a coincidence (possible) or was designed to split the crew at a critical point. At the same time, Truck may have been following Jack and followed him to the hotel where Honeypot was staying. Assuming this crew wants to kill us, it seems like they would have had many opportunities to do so over the last few days considering they effectively had our ticket punched at the beginning of the investigation. I have to assume they either don't consider us a significant enough threat to try and kill or they don't know exactly where we are. |
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Skillwire Savant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 5-April 13 From: Aurora Warrens, UCAS Sector of the FRFZ Member No.: 88,139 ![]() |
Anyway, last thing I think we have posted IC is that Grease is going to drop us off at the abandoned house then head back to his place to get his vehicle kit. I guess either Overkill can mention his pre-purchased Hardware Kit at Nic's or Jack can mention that Nic could probably put something together that would work well enough if Overkill doesn't want to say he already had a hardware kit.
At least, that's where it sounds like we are. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 ![]() |
Grease could also let drave start working on fixing the rotodrone while he goes to grab his tools. I'm cool staying at the abandoned house if drave has a hardware kit.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,696 Joined: 8-August 13 Member No.: 140,284 ![]() |
Well, like I said Amy's preference is to avoid going back to Nic's if possible.
Could we also leave a fly-spy on duty near Nic's Knacks to check who might be coming or snooping around? She'd feel better if Grease or Overkill offered to do that. We should also have one help us scout around wherever we end up sleeping for the night.. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 ![]() |
Well, like I said Amy's preference is to avoid going back to Nic's if possible. Could we also leave a fly-spy on duty near Nic's Knacks to check who might be coming or snooping around? She'd feel better if Grease or Overkill offered to do that. We should also have one help us scout around wherever we end up sleeping for the night.. Good idea. I feel like a mage casting "alarm" for the night.. Can we feasibly repair the drone in the hideout location? If not, maybe we could wait till morning. |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
Ok - so, if Amy wants to stay at the abandoned house, and everyone is okay with it, then the following needs to happen IC:
1) Grease has to mention that he needs a Hardware kit to fix the rotodrone, and an Armorer's kit to take the AK out of Rhex. 2) Overkill has to say that he has a Hardware kit, and that they need to run back to his place to get it. 3) Jack would need to mention that they can probably scrounge one from Nic's (or, potentially Jack is still pissed at Grease, he may make Grease go buy one). 4) If people want Fly Spy's over different locations, someone has to mention this to Grease. 5) Stops have to be made at Overkill's, the store or Nic's, and the abandoned house. 6) I have to make rolls for the Hardware test to fix Overkill's deck, the Matrix damage to the Rotodrone, an Aeronautical Mechanic roll for the non-structural damage to the rotodrone, and an Armorer test to take the AK out of Rhex. Btw - for that Armorer test, it is far more likely to succeed should Overkill do it, as neither Overkill nor Grease have the Armorer skill, but Overkill's Logic is much higher than Grease's. Note - in answer to Grease's question, since you are only using the vehicle repair kit, and not a shop, and the rotodrone isn't that big, yes it can be fixed in the abandoned house. 7) Someone has to make a call to Chapel if you want equipment (and get me a precise list so I can make availability rolls) 8 ) You need to sleep (and post watches) - and wake up for the morning edition of the Tribune (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can certainly help facilitate any of those IC posts that we need, anyone want to start us off? |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 ![]() |
Ok - so, if Amy wants to stay at the abandoned house, and everyone is okay with it, then the following needs to happen IC: 1) Grease has to mention that he needs a Hardware kit to fix the rotodrone, and an Armorer's kit to take the AK out of Rhex. 2) Overkill has to say that he has a Hardware kit, and that they need to run back to his place to get it. 3) Jack would need to mention that they can probably scrounge one from Nic's (or, potentially Jack is still pissed at Grease, he may make Grease go buy one). 4) If people want Fly Spy's over different locations, someone has to mention this to Grease. 5) Stops have to be made at Overkill's, the store or Nic's, and the abandoned house. 6) I have to make rolls for the Hardware test to fix Overkill's deck, the Matrix damage to the Rotodrone, an Aeronautical Mechanic roll for the non-structural damage to the rotodrone, and an Armorer test to take the AK out of Rhex. Btw - for that Armorer test, it is far more likely to succeed should Overkill do it, as neither Overkill nor Grease have the Armorer skill, but Overkill's Logic is much higher than Grease's. Note - in answer to Grease's question, since you are only using the vehicle repair kit, and not a shop, and the rotodrone isn't that big, yes it can be fixed in the abandoned house. 7) Someone has to make a call to Chapel if you want equipment (and get me a precise list so I can make availability rolls) 8 ) You need to sleep (and post watches) - and wake up for the morning edition of the Tribune (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can certainly help facilitate any of those IC posts that we need, anyone want to start us off? I can't post IC until much later today; I'm fine with Lobo posting to that effect on all the above points. Thanks, DrZ |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 ![]() |
Ok - I've got point 1 covered, up to you guys for the next couple (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If Grease needs to respond, I can keep his end of the conversation going. |
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