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post Apr 21 2014, 11:53 AM
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Hi Folks,

i wonder if there has ever been a final solution of how it works. We already had the topic and acc. to the RAW it only influences awakened if they are IN the field of BC. But the part "This astral haze affects all attempts to cast magic on, at, or in the vicinity of the character" (Runners Companion, page 116) confused me a lot. It implements, that it also hinders magic, if you try to influence something within the field from the outside. Unfortunetely it is not further specified and also the explanation in Arsenal about Cyborgs and Cyberzombies uses the same words.

So maybe a dev mentioned some clarification in an unofficial or official errata, or in a other dicussion?

Please give me a short overview what is canon right at the moment.

Thank you.
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- Machiavelli   Astral Hazing - final statement   Apr 21 2014, 11:53 AM
- - Neraph   If you are inside casting at all, it affects you. ...   Apr 21 2014, 01:34 PM
|- - Shortstraw   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 21 2014, 11:34 PM) If...   Apr 21 2014, 01:35 PM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Apr 21 2014, 07:35 AM...   Apr 21 2014, 02:15 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 21 2014, 07:34 AM) If...   Apr 21 2014, 02:33 PM
- - Neraph   The game doesn't care about traversing BC at a...   Apr 21 2014, 03:18 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 21 2014, 10:18 AM) Th...   Apr 21 2014, 03:37 PM
|- - Mantis   QUOTE (Bigity @ Apr 21 2014, 07:37 AM) Wh...   Apr 21 2014, 06:39 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Per the rules, Combat spells are unaffected by BGC...   Apr 21 2014, 03:26 PM
- - Bigity   May not exist in 4th.   Apr 21 2014, 08:39 PM
- - Glyph   "This astral haze affects all attempts to cas...   Apr 22 2014, 12:26 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Glyph @ Apr 21 2014, 07:26 PM) Mag...   Apr 22 2014, 02:19 PM
- - Machiavelli   Is that your houserule or an official solution for...   Apr 22 2014, 09:11 AM
- - Neraph   QUOTE (Bigity @ Apr 21 2014, 03:39 PM) Ma...   Apr 22 2014, 04:11 PM
|- - Bigity   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 22 2014, 10:11 AM) Do...   Apr 23 2014, 01:53 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 22 2014, 09:11 AM) Ac...   Apr 23 2014, 08:09 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Glyph @ Apr 23 2014, 03:09 AM) Mag...   Apr 23 2014, 01:11 PM
- - Machiavelli   Which is great. ^^ I asked Patrick Goodman for his...   Apr 23 2014, 08:48 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Apr 23 2014, 03:48 A...   Apr 23 2014, 01:08 PM
|- - Machiavelli   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 23 2014, 02:08 PM) ...   Apr 23 2014, 01:43 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Apr 23 2014, 07:43 A...   Apr 23 2014, 01:49 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Apr 23 2014, 08:43 A...   Apr 23 2014, 02:09 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 23 2014, 08:09 AM) ...   Apr 23 2014, 02:48 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Any Magician/Mystic Adept/Adept I built in SR4A wa...   Apr 23 2014, 01:21 PM
- - Machiavelli   Ah, that is too easy. I look at it from the side ...   Apr 23 2014, 02:19 PM
- - Machiavelli   Correctly...and you don´t even have to sustain it....   Apr 23 2014, 03:05 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Apr 23 2014, 09:05 A...   Apr 23 2014, 03:08 PM
- - Machiavelli   Yeah...don´t tell it to my GM.   Apr 23 2014, 06:09 PM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 23 2014, 05:11 AM) Ri...   Apr 24 2014, 01:44 AM
- - Draco18s   My group decided that if the mage is NOT in any ba...   Apr 24 2014, 02:01 AM
- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 23 2014, 08...   Apr 24 2014, 03:32 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 24 2014, 11:32 AM) Th...   Apr 24 2014, 03:36 AM
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|- - toturi   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 24 2014, 11:39 AM) No...   Apr 24 2014, 03:54 AM
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|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Apr 24 2014, 09:07 A...   Apr 24 2014, 02:08 PM
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|- - Rubic   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 24 2014, 09:44 PM) Tr...   Apr 25 2014, 03:20 AM
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|- - toturi   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 25 2014, 10:44 AM) Tr...   Apr 25 2014, 03:56 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 24 2014, 10:56 PM) ...   Apr 25 2014, 03:24 PM
- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 25 2014, 11...   Apr 25 2014, 05:13 PM
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|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 25 2014, 10:15 AM...   Apr 25 2014, 05:28 PM
- - Stahlseele   think of it this way: 4 is only one point more tha...   Apr 27 2014, 09:46 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 27 2014, 03:46 AM...   Apr 27 2014, 05:35 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 27 2014, 02:46 AM...   Apr 27 2014, 05:38 PM
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- - Rubic   Street Magic, p. 55, under the Cleansing metamagic...   Apr 29 2014, 04:21 AM
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|- - toturi   QUOTE (Rubic @ Apr 30 2014, 10:13 AM) I d...   Apr 30 2014, 04:27 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 29 2014, 09:27 PM) Ev...   Apr 30 2014, 03:19 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 30 2014, 11...   Apr 30 2014, 03:40 PM
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|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Apr 30 2014, 09:05 AM) BT...   Apr 30 2014, 04:17 PM
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|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 30 2014, 09:34 AM...   Apr 30 2014, 04:41 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 30 2014, 11...   Apr 30 2014, 04:44 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Neraph @ May 1 2014, 12:44 AM) ......   Apr 30 2014, 04:58 PM
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|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 30 2014, 09:44 AM) .....   Apr 30 2014, 05:36 PM
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