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Lobo0705
post Aug 22 2014, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 09:03 AM) *
Can Grease negotiate on Stinger's behalf? Perhaps a discount if 50% is provided up front?

-DrZ


Lol - would you have given Ramirez a discount had he offered you more money up front? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

At the end of the day you are going to have to get Stinger in a room with Valkyrie, and if you agree to something Stinger balks at, that is going to cause Valkyrie to be like "What the hell, I negotiated with you in good faith and now your money man won't agree" - which isn't going to go down well.
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Aug 22 2014, 09:58 AM) *
Lol - would you have given Ramirez a discount had he offered you more money up front? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

At the end of the day you are going to have to get Stinger in a room with Valkyrie, and if you agree to something Stinger balks at, that is going to cause Valkyrie to be like "What the hell, I negotiated with you in good faith and now your money man won't agree" - which isn't going to go down well.


Well, that's why Grease has a 6 in negotiation!

I agree though- unless anyone has a clever idea, we're going to need to get stinger out of the trunk, dust him off and bring him in.
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 09:26 AM) *
I agree though- unless anyone has a clever idea, we're going to need to get stinger out of the trunk, dust him off and bring him in.

I didn't really see this thing going down any other way, to be honest. Jack will get him.
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Aug 22 2014, 10:34 AM) *
I didn't really see this thing going down any other way, to be honest. Jack will get him.


So, I have more to post, but I'm not sure if anyone is interrupting or has anything to say, I don't want to post all of it before I get feedback.

Is anyone interrupting or should I continue the conversation?
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Aug 22 2014, 10:22 AM) *
So, I have more to post, but I'm not sure if anyone is interrupting or has anything to say, I don't want to post all of it before I get feedback.

Is anyone interrupting or should I continue the conversation?


If you want to continue that's fine- I would just interject, "Once we've had a chance to confirm it's what we're looking for".

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post Aug 22 2014, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 10:49 AM) *
If you want to continue that's fine- I would just interject, "Once we've had a chance to confirm it's what we're looking for".

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Will do - want to make sure Chrome and Jack have nothing to add and then I will post
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post Aug 22 2014, 04:40 PM
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I'm good. Jack isn't okay with letting him get away, but they don't really have much of a choice now.
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post Aug 22 2014, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Aug 22 2014, 12:40 PM) *
I'm good. Jack isn't okay with letting him get away, but they don't really have much of a choice now.


Yeah; I get that. Grease (as in most things) is looking for a simple solution to get the big fish and let one of the little fish get away. He is probably the least honorable of the group. I wonder is there a way we could tag Stinger without his knowledge? It's a little late for that now; it probably would have been best to plan that ahead of time, and do it when he was unconscious before we talked to him. Could Overkill mark his deck somehow?

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post Aug 22 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 02:20 PM) *
Yeah; I get that. Grease (as in most things) is looking for a simple solution to get the big fish and let one of the little fish get away. He is probably the least honorable of the group. I wonder is there a way we could tag Stinger without his knowledge? It's a little late for that now; it probably would have been best to plan that ahead of time, and do it when he was unconscious before we talked to him. Could Overkill mark his deck somehow?

-DrZ


Overkill was never able to find his deck - and even if he could and could mark it, Stinger is going to be able to see that and wipe it off.

As you said - that probably should have been though of ahead of time - but even if you had some sort of tag you could put on him, Stinger, being a decker, is going to be the best equipped to spot one.
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post Aug 22 2014, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Aug 22 2014, 02:32 PM) *
Overkill was never able to find his deck - and even if he could and could mark it, Stinger is going to be able to see that and wipe it off.

As you said - that probably should have been though of ahead of time - but even if you had some sort of tag you could put on him, Stinger, being a decker, is going to be the best equipped to spot one.


Hey- we could always kill Valkyrie and her whole team when we get the chip!

-DrZ
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 01:37 PM) *
Hey- we could always kill Valkyrie and her whole team when we get the chip!

-DrZ

Macic 8-Ball Says: Outlook Not So Good
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Aug 22 2014, 01:38 PM) *
Macic 8-Ball Says: Outlook Not So Good

Or just crazy enough it might work?!

All kidding aside, we could call the Johnson and have him meet us at the location with the cavalry, but that may garner us a bad rep in the Shadow community.
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 22 2014, 01:42 PM) *
All kidding aside, we could call the Johnson and have him meet us at the location with the cavalry, but that may garner us a bad rep in the Shadow community.

Given what Ramirez has told us, I doubt he has access to the cavalry, so to speak, for this particular run. Even if he did, it would probably blow our rep even more if we called in that favor to tag one guy with three still on the loose.

Anyway, I think we're "all in" at this point. I don't see us having the ability to cancel the deal even if we wanted to, since we don't really have the leverage to do so. Our only hope would be to somehow snag Stinger after he concludes his business with Valkyrie.
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post Aug 22 2014, 07:51 PM
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If you had Ramirez meet you with cops at the location (assuming he could find some who he was sure wasn't compromised) they would run into Valkyrie's team - and there are really quite a few different ways that could turn out badly for you guys.

Now, as Valkyrie said, it will be about an hour before she can have her team assembled. What, if anything, is the plan between now and then? Some thoughts to keep in mind.

1) Stinger is no longer concealed by Amy's spirit
2) Before Valkyrie's team shows up, Grease is going to crash and take 6 unresisted stun damage.
3) Are all 4 of you going to the house? If not, what is the plan? Come to think of it, if you are all going, what is the plan?
4) Is Overkill still going to be on the side so Stinger thinks he is dead?

Discuss (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Other than Overkill, the rest of us are kind of stuck with wherever the taxi goes. I don't think it would be a smart move on our part to split the team up. Honestly, there are so many ways this thing can go wrong, I'm not entirely sure if it would be worth it to try to plan anything other than in very general terms.

I think our general concern is what to do when/if we start getting shot at by whoever.
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We have made Valkyrie aware of the situation, and we're on her turf. I think we should stay in the bar until her team arrives, so we have the advantage were Lynx and co. able to find and attack us. Once we're on the move, we have a team of bodyguards helping us out so it should be fine too. So all in all I'm not that worried that they find us. My spirit is still on the lookout for searching spirits, so we'll know if they're on to us.

We should all go to the house. All sorts of things can happen and we have no other important place to be at. I think Overkill can come back to inside the car with us, we don't need to keep him a secret anymore as far as I'm concerned. But I don't mind if we'd rather keep him separate. Our team would be more effective, I think, with him in the cab than on his own though.
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QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Aug 22 2014, 04:47 PM) *
We have made Valkyrie aware of the situation, and we're on her turf. I think we should stay in the bar until her team arrives, so we have the advantage were Lynx and co. able to find and attack us. Once we're on the move, we have a team of bodyguards helping us out so it should be fine too. So all in all I'm not that worried that they find us. My spirit is still on the lookout for searching spirits, so we'll know if they're on to us.

We should all go to the house. All sorts of things can happen and we have no other important place to be at. I think Overkill can come back to inside the car with us, we don't need to keep him a secret anymore as far as I'm concerned. But I don't mind if we'd rather keep him separate. Our team would be more effective, I think, with him in the cab than on his own though.


I think we keep Overkill hidden for the time being- I think the element of having an unknown actor available outweighs the potential benefits.

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So, where do we stand?

What do you need to know from us Lobo to keep going?

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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 25 2014, 10:14 AM) *
So, where do we stand?

What do you need to know from us Lobo to keep going?

-DrZ


We are currently waiting for Valkyrie's team to show up, which should be around 9:15. Not sure if there is any RP that you guys want to do between now and then.

If not, I can fast forward to the team arriving and you going to Stinger's house.

If that is the case, then Dr. Zaius do you want to write up a blurb about Grease crashing at 9:00 and taking the 6 boxes of stun (and I'll insert it into my post) or do you want me to write it - either way I'm fine.
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Aug 25 2014, 09:20 AM) *
We are currently waiting for Valkyrie's team to show up, which should be around 9:15. Not sure if there is any RP that you guys want to do between now and then.

If not, I can fast forward to the team arriving and you going to Stinger's house.

If that is the case, then Dr. Zaius do you want to write up a blurb about Grease crashing at 9:00 and taking the 6 boxes of stun (and I'll insert it into my post) or do you want me to write it - either way I'm fine.


Jack / Chrome- Anything we want to do before then?

Lobo- should we come up with a list of stuff we plan on bringing?

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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 25 2014, 10:17 AM) *
Lobo- should we come up with a list of stuff we plan on bringing?
-DrZ


Yes please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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I don't have anything planned.

Since I don't think we have the option of returning home before now and then, I imagine we're going to be bringing everything that we had from the ambush on Truck. I doubt anyone decided to leave any of their kit at the safe house.
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Aug 25 2014, 11:36 AM) *
I don't have anything planned.

Since I don't think we have the option of returning home before now and then, I imagine we're going to be bringing everything that we had from the ambush on Truck. I doubt anyone decided to leave any of their kit at the safe house.


Good point- Geez, this game is so spread out (IRL) it's sometimes easy to forget we're at what- 3 in-game days here?
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Nothing to add. Amy's got her usual gear (pretty much everything she owns). And she's still got the spirit watching for anything that might be searching for us in the astral.
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Aug 25 2014, 10:44 AM) *
Good point- Geez, this game is so spread out (IRL) it's sometimes easy to forget we're at what- 3 in-game days here?


We are actually on our 5th day in game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just let me know about what you want to do about the stun damage and I can get up the next post.
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