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Lobo0705
post Oct 31 2014, 03:06 PM
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@Jack,

I suppose if you had a talismonger with favorable enough disposition then yes, that could work.


@Grease,

Jack is right, being jumped in would make you unable to really use the fabric as intended. Honestly this particular item is extremely vague.

1) How tight of a "beam" is the boosted signal? Anything in your front 180 degree arc? 90 degree arc? 45 degree arc? Does the signal boost only something directly in front of you - i.e. a signal boost "beam" that is the size of your body in a straight line?

2) What is the range?

3) Is it blocked by anything?
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:17 PM
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WRT to the Fresnel Fabric, I think you just have to come up with a few rules to make it work.

1) I think the easiest way to handle it is to ignore the details. Just say that due to the way the fabric works, it only allows you to gain the noise reduction benefit when interacting with one specific icon at a time. Since noise tends to fuzz out icons, the wearer could easily tell if they're lined up correctly when the icon comes into clearer focus. I still think it wouldn't work that well in VR unless you're trying to interact with a stationary device (maglock, etc).

2) I wouldn't put a range limitation on it. With that said, there SHOULD be a maximum Rating on it. Somewhere between 3-6 would be appropriate.

3) I don't think it needs to be blocked by anything necessarily. It's just a NR modifier. Other noise modifiers would still be applied, limiting some of the efficacy of the Fresnel Fabric. For instance, trying to interact with a device with Fresnel Fabric through wireless negation paint would include both the bonus from the fabric and the penalty from the paint (as well as whatever material the paint was applied to...).

ETA: Just a head's up. I've got inventory starting around Noon Central Time. I'll pretty much be out of pocket for the rest of the day starting then and half of tomorrow.

Also, not that Jack's there to participate, but I really don't have a suggestion for a street name for Amy. I can't really think of anything appropriate. Maybe Snap? As in, if you mess with one of her friends, she might snap? Not feeling particularly creative on that front.
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:06 AM) *
@Grease,

Jack is right, being jumped in would make you unable to really use the fabric as intended. Honestly this particular item is extremely vague.

1) How tight of a "beam" is the boosted signal? Anything in your front 180 degree arc? 90 degree arc? 45 degree arc? Does the signal boost only something directly in front of you - i.e. a signal boost "beam" that is the size of your body in a straight line?
2) What is the range?
3) Is it blocked by anything?


My reading of it was "wow- a neat idea. No idea how'd this actually work in the game." I think I'll just avoid it to save everyone the hassle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

@Jack / Chrome: Anything else you think Grease should / could get?
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Oct 31 2014, 10:35 AM) *
My reading of it was "wow- a neat idea. No idea how'd this actually work in the game." I think I'll just avoid it to save everyone the hassle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

Funny, I felt the same way about Shock Weave. I was going to have it put on the Forearm Guards, but then I decided not to. Seems a bit OP and/or difficult to adjudicate.

QUOTE (DrZaius @ Oct 31 2014, 10:35 AM) *
@Jack / Chrome: Anything else you think Grease should / could get?

One thing we might want to consider (although this is entirely OOC) is what gear we're losing with Overkill leaving. Sure, if we get a replacement decker, they may also be carrying a Signals Intelligence Battalion's complement of jamming devices, but we don't know for sure. With that said, a lot of that stuff (headjammers, etc) might better fit under specialized equipment that we would buy using an advance. I would think Grease might consider something like a White Noise Generator or Bug Scanner though, maybe built into his new suit.

Another Fake SIN? Granted, they're expensive.
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Oct 31 2014, 11:40 AM) *
Funny, I felt the same way about Shock Weave. I was going to have it put on the Forearm Guards, but then I decided not to. Seems a bit OP and/or difficult to adjudicate.


One thing we might want to consider (although this is entirely OOC) is what gear we're losing with Overkill leaving. Sure, if we get a replacement decker, they may also be carrying a Signals Intelligence Battalion's complement of jamming devices, but we don't know for sure. With that said, a lot of that stuff (headjammers, etc) might better fit under specialized equipment that we would buy using an advance. I would think Grease might consider something like a White Noise Generator or Bug Scanner though, maybe built into his new suit.

Another Fake SIN? Granted, they're expensive.


Agreed on the jamming stuff. I was also considering getting it built into my "meeting with Mr. Johnson suit"; since that's generally when you need those things the most.

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post Oct 31 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Oct 31 2014, 10:48 AM) *
Agreed on the jamming stuff. I was also considering getting it built into my "meeting with Mr. Johnson suit"; since that's generally when you need those things the most.

-DrZ

Yup, most of the characters I have built since R&G came out who are "pros" will buy an Armante with a WNG and Bug Scanner built into it.

ETA: Anyone have any input on my list of stuff? Oh, also @DrZ, it hasn't come up yet, but Stolen Souls has Spoof Chips and Morphing License Plates for vehicles. As with everything in Stolen Souls, the rules are rather vague...
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post Oct 31 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Oct 31 2014, 10:54 AM) *
Yup, most of the characters I have built since R&G came out who are "pros" will buy an Armante with a WNG and Bug Scanner built into it.
ETA: Anyone have any input on my list of stuff? Oh, also @DrZ, it hasn't come up yet, but Stolen Souls has Spoof Chips and Morphing License Plates for vehicles. As with everything in Stolen Souls, the rules are rather vague...

It doesn't really matter how they work; morphing license plates are something any decent rigger would want.

ETA: I'd also probably want my new gear to have someplace built in to hide my RCC. I know it's about tablet sized (for some completely unknown reason); but it is one of the things that they don't account for in Run & Gun. Maybe similar in size to a Simrig? Maybe it could fit in a "holster"; considering they can hold something up to the size of a SMG?
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post Oct 31 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Oct 31 2014, 10:03 AM) *
It doesn't really matter how they work; morphing license plates are something any decent rigger would want.

1000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for a Morphing License Plate (A8)
500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for a Spoof Chip (A8)

There's also Chameleon Coating (A12), but it's 2,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) x Body

Not sure about what the COLA modifiers for any of that would be...
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post Oct 31 2014, 04:30 PM
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Dr. Z,

A deck is the size of a tablet. An RCC is much bigger.

Page 266
"A rigger command console, or RCC, is like a deck for controlling
drones (or other vehicles and devices). It’s about
the size of a briefcase."

Jack,

Are you looking for input from me on your list of equipment or just from Dr Z. and Chrome?

Also, as far as COLA for the stuff from Stolen Souls, since it is not listed we will call it normal price.

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post Oct 31 2014, 04:41 PM
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Anyone who has thoughts, really.

I always figured a good disguise for an RCC would be... a briefcase!
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post Oct 31 2014, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Oct 31 2014, 12:41 PM) *
Anyone who has thoughts, really.
I always figured a good disguise for an RCC would be... a briefcase!

Probably. One issue is that the areas we've been traveling have made it a poor idea to show up looking particularly well-to-do..

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post Oct 31 2014, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Oct 31 2014, 12:41 PM) *
Anyone who has thoughts, really.

I always figured a good disguise for an RCC would be... a briefcase!


Your list seems eminently reasonable, including the drag handle, although the group of weedy elves you hang out with might even have problems with the handle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Oct 31 2014, 12:15 PM) *
Your list seems eminently reasonable, including the drag handle, although the group of weedy elves you hang out with might even have problems with the handle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Maybe our new decker will be a troll!
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post Oct 31 2014, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:15 AM) *
Your list seems eminently reasonable, including the drag handle, although the group of weedy elves you hang out with might even have problems with the handle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I figured it might help out whatever spirit Amy summons to actually do the heavy lifting when Jack gets knocked unconscious.

Although a beefy troll would be a welcome addition to the crew (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

ETA: I had considered maybe picking up a Knowsoft, but I think I'm going to wait to see how much karma we got from the run. Knowledge Skills are pretty cheap, karma-wise.
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post Oct 31 2014, 05:34 PM
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Grease's advertisement on Shadowland:

Goblinization-challenged, Disease Free Decker (Drug free is preferable, but if you do have a drug habit, just stay away from my stash and we won't have problems).

Previous experience in a Moving Company (or any other job where you have to carry large objects) recommended.

Those who get motion-sickness in fast moving cars need not apply. Also those who eat in cars. Those who apply product to their hair must provide their own headrest-covering for team-sponsored trips.
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post Oct 31 2014, 05:50 PM
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^Nice

Candidates with pointed teeth, casting no reflections, and with a disposition toward only operating at night are right out. (I guess that would fall under Disease Free)
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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:06 AM) *
@Jack,

I suppose if you had a talismonger with favorable enough disposition then yes, that could work.


How about a close friend with loyalty 5, listed as shaman/talismonger, and whom I imagine mostly dealing in simple supplies (like reagents, lodge material, etc.)? Because that would be Hubert (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (ETA: to be fair, I don't know if he'd do any hermetic stuff...)

Otherwise she will do business with the new talismonger "contact" (ETA: found his name, Stingray) for things she can't get from Hubert.

ETA: I like your posting for a decker haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'll take a closer look at both of your lists this evening to come up with possible suggestions, please go ahead and do the same.

What the focus turns out to be might be meaningful in what is to come, as is how much karma we receive. Looking forward to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ETA2: Hey I wanted to bring up the name issue next in IC and you beat me to it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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Hah- great minds think alike!

I put it out there because I hadn't thought of a good street name for Amy. I'll try to think about it some more this weekend. Since this is your character, I'd prefer we picked something you wanted OOC, and then posted IC about it. That way I'm not saddling you with a nickname you don't like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

ETA: The shadowlands ad would also have something about "Flexibility under rapidly developing situations; ability to think on your feet, follow a unique or unfamiliar lead" or something to that effect.
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QUOTE (DrZaius @ Oct 31 2014, 01:45 PM) *
That way I'm not saddling you with a nickname you don't like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

That's part of the fun though, isn't it?

I was trying to think of what distinguishes Amy and the main thing I think about is the rage thing from her totem when she or a friend get injured. So something alluding to her rage, might be appropriate? Snap, Fit, Tantrum, Rash, Red-Eye, Temper...
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Angel, Athena, Blindfire, Crash, Hex, Jinx, Nova, Nuke, Phoenix, Scorch, Syren, Tempest, Tripwire, Voodoo, Vortex, Wildfire, Wraith

(Stolen from a much longer list online)

-DrZ

ETA: @Chrome: depending on how much karma we get, you may want to look at new spells / rituals you could get, provided you don't want to bank all your karma to initiate.
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QUOTE (Jack VII @ Oct 31 2014, 03:51 PM) *
That's part of the fun though, isn't it?

I tend to agree. Part of the fun for me with letting others decide her street name is that we might actually get something related to how she's perceived, which is often how nicknames (and street names) are created, rather than how she wants to be perceived (which is another option, but I want to explore something else). Whatever you come up with is fine. I don't have a problem with any of the stuff either of you posted. I agree with Jack that rage sets her apart, I can also think of how she injured/killed innocents with an inaccurate lightning ball, or how she dangerously used the illusion of a hobo to mislead goons at the park.

About the spells, after discussing with Lobo, we came to the conclusion that Mental Manipulation spells would be house ruled out of the game, which means that she'll get an empty spot to fill before the next run (but I'll try to keep it to something that has a mental flavor; I've been considering analyze truth and mind probe as the top contenders).

I've thought quite a bit about where I'd like to spend karma (got a long list already). Awakened characters tend to have a ton of fun things to spend karma on, of course several spells have made it onto my list. What I do will depend on how much karma we receive (when do we receive karma?) and potentially on what the focus turns out to be.
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Ah - karma yes - you do get that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For this adventure I would normally give 8 karma, but I'm going to multiply that by 1.5 to compensate for the PbP format instead of PnP.

So each of you receive 12 karma to spend as you see fit (Grease, you can have that Edge of 2 that you always wanted now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

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QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Oct 31 2014, 06:10 PM) *
For this adventure I would normally give 8 karma, but I'm going to multiply that by 1.5 to compensate for the PbP format instead of PnP.

And I think I speak for all of us when I say that we are thankful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Now I have to think of my options with this karma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

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QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Oct 31 2014, 07:44 PM) *
And I think I speak for all of us when I say that we are thankful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Now I have to think of my options with this karma (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

Agreed! Karma... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lick.gif)
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It just occurred to me that we all gained 1 street cred too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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