But I really wanted that Deltaware Move By Wire 4... If only I could front the 16 million nuyen, I don't know... EVER. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Just as reminder - the operative words in that sentence are: "plays the spirit." The spirit is not an extension of the magician and will tend to act only to fulfill the services demanded.

I also voted no, and Ryu seems to have summed up my reasoning. Very good, man!

So talk with your GM. I GMed a character in 3rd ed who was trying to get a Delta cybertorso. He was starting to fall behind on the power curve so I decided to give it to him. Of course I turned his getting the cybertorso into an entire run. He had trusted contact sell him some information on an incoming shipment of an experimental cybertorso from Renraku for I believe it was around 50,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . He then turned into the Johnson for the rest of the team and paid them each 25,000 for the run itself. They busted into a Renraku facility, stole the torso then went through a contact with Ares that they had who agreed to install it for a nominal fee 25,000 or so if he was allowed to poke around it and see what exactly Renraku had done with it.

90% of the time I've found GM's are thrilled when their players hand them plot hooks on a silver platter. I know I am.

now that is a whole new kind of awesome idea for samurai O.o

Yeah, but to be fair... Deltaware Move By Wire 4 is pretty sick. Even at the... What, 2.4 or 2.6 essence cost? It'd be a massive jump in the power curve. It's the sort of thing I'd give to an uber-boss for a mid-level runner team.

and in the long run, it will STILL bancrupt the poor slab of meat around it with the maintenance cots or just slowly accumulate stress untill it fries out the central nervous system . .

I don't know... Deltaware? If you can afford 16 mil nuyen for it, you can surely afford upkeep. But it should be minimal at such a high level. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

Actually, isn't there an edge called Biocompatibility where you can lower essence cost of items by 10% (either cyberware or bioware; choose 1)?

in SR4, yeah, in SR3? no such thing . . but then, in SR4 there's no stress for implants as well, if i remember correctly . . so you won't really have to care about that . . and in SR3, the nuyen you had to pay on upkeep were calculated by the grade of the ware, so delta got one hell of expansive to maintain . . even a simple datajack would be much more expansive, should one ever require cyber-repair surgery . .

I've never had a run go on long enough to even contemplate repair or upkeep of cyberware.

me neither, actually . . probably because we don't use those rules at all *g*