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Well I'm very serious about it too. So can we put together our common complaints about 4th edition and start from there? See if we can create solutions that are generally appealing to both new and old communities. * NAN treatment * Tir treatment * Technomancers * Character creation * Shadowslang * Too much Wi-Fi * better Vehicle integration Please add or subtract from this list as you see fit. Initially I would say my biggest issues are as follows: Things that can be easily solved * Lack of clarification/information on the world setting (which includes NAN and Tir treatment) * Lack of shadowslang * Cyberware as passe (not acceptable - this is a cyberpunk game) Things that can kinda be solved * WiFi inanity (to put it succinctly, why is there a computer in everything including my underwear? Why can the hacker take control of my cyberarm, and why does my non-smartlinked gun have a computer that can shut it down in it?) * Vehicle integration (it would help - we don't even use Maneuver score) * Edge (in that to kill anyone you essentially have to kill them a number of times equal to their edge score) Things that can't easily be solved * Technomancers (in the manner that they essentially are magical by the powers and fluff, and in the sense that they are somewhat overpowered) * AI proliferation (why is every frikkin program waking up as an AI?) * Dead plotlines * Dead NPCs/institutions (ie Shadowland) I don't have a major problem with character creation in this system, as noted. Thoughts anyone? Edited to add - This thread is not intended as yet another bitch session about 4th edition. It is not meant to tell people they are GMing or playing the game wrong, or to just say GM fiat or house rule everything. None of that is productive. What this thread is intended for is to bring together the problems people have with 4th edition with an eye toward finding ways to work through them - whether that means correcting misconceptions, finding and addressing real problems, or whatever else between those extremes - with hope that Catalyst may take some notice in regards to future development so the maximum number of SR fans can enjoy at least part of SR4. Note I say future, because IMO invalidating existing SR4 material is unacceptable. We cannot however control what Catalyst does, but it is my hope that in coming to some sort of compromise on the issues brought up in this thread we can at least mute the continual flame wars over the subject here. I am, of course, not optimistic about that. |
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