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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 ![]() |
What about the old SR3 Jim Suit ?
Transfer it to SR4 ...Tadaaah ?! HeyaHeyaHeyaJa Medicineman |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Birmingham, UK Member No.: 13,515 ![]() |
Which suffers somewhat from the medium drones that are designed to carry passengers. I agree that the "Doberman" would become a walking rigger cocoon with gun on top, but it could be done. Aren't the only passenger-carrying drones the ones that are basically walking seats? Like the medicare/wheelchair combo drone? OK, so maybe riding on its back is a goer but I'm pretty sure a rigger cocoon is out for the Doberman... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
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Awakened Asset ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 ![]() |
Aren't the only passenger-carrying drones the ones that are basically walking seats? Like the medicare/wheelchair combo drone? Just found something in the "drone size table": drones that carry standard humans should be large. Please to be ignoring the Doberman suggestion, yes? But how about this? DC Horseman (enhanced Freight): Mod(Slots): Walker Mode(2), Armor (1), Rotating Remote Weapon Mount(2) |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 ![]() |
Pardon my ignorance, what would a Jim Suit be? A Hardshell Diving Suit .A oneman vehicle with Arms and Legs http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/01intro/beimg/jim.jpg It was in the Underwater Part of the Rigger Book (IIRC too much time has passed) HokaHey Medicineman |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5-January 08 From: Midwest Member No.: 15,062 ![]() |
My basic idea in attempting to put a rigger cocoon on a Tomino would honestly be very simple. It's described in the book as being bulkier than a troll in full military grade armor and weighing in at 250kg or more. Considering that I play a dwarf, were I ever able to afford that drone, and were I to ever really actually attempt to put a rigger cocoon on the Tomino, I'd actually probably be looking at the back of the drone for this. Basically I'd have to clear it with my game master, but what I'd probably do is use that generic mod for things they didn't cover (Special Machinery/Storage) and a rigger cocoon put together to create something akin to pilot pod off the Tachikomas from GiTS:SAC, just dwarf sized and more flush with the back, kinda like a giant drone sized backpack with a hard, clam shell covering.
And yeah, I know it's completely impractical, and it'd probably get me killed... but sometimes a person's just gotta lose the black leather, reveal their pink mohawk, and try to do something just because it's awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Awakened Asset ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 ![]() |
You die in a mech, you die as a mechwarrior. Style over substance in that regard!
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
A Hardshell Diving Suit .A oneman vehicle with Arms and Legs http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/01intro/beimg/jim.jpg It was in the Underwater Part of the Rigger Book (IIRC too much time has passed) HokaHey Medicineman Una muta da palombaro! Thanks. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 ![]() |
Tomino is an atroform, a drone with a body shaped after metahuman shape and using similar propulsion method (limbs), It's not a suit of armor, the space within its shell is filled by its interal workings, it can be adapted to contain a CCU so probably a head can fit in but the rest of the body? Rigger Cocoon is meant to be installed on vehicles or drones large enough that can be converted into vehicles. So unless you get your brain extracted from your body and fitted into a CCU no Tomino armor suit for you. Arguable. Very arguable. Worst case scenario, there's nothing stopping a PC designing their own and basing the design on the Tomino. Question about MilSpec in General: Can you install Stuff like Skimmer discs in it and if so, are there any rules for such stuff? If not, how would you handle the Armor Modification of such Cyberlimb Mods? Yes you can. I did look this up the other day. One character concept I was toying with was a character that wore a heavily customised mask, form fitting body armor and a lined coat. The FFBA + mask is environmentally sealed, with rebreathers/air filter out the mouth, commlink built into the help with a trode connection (or DNI via datajack - either way). Said mask would have all eye and ear mods out the wazoo and some other goodies built in. Specifically I was thinking software for judging intentions, skillsofts, etc. Other ideas involved making the suit fireproof, water proof, coating the jacket/mask/FFBA with ruthenium polymers, turning the jacket into a flying squirrel suit for low altitude jumps, etc. I had a stack of ideas.... While not milspec armor, it was designed intentionally to be far more flexible and usable in multiple environments (and appear to be little more than run of the mill clothing). - J. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 ![]() |
Where did you look it up, J? I talked with my GM about it and he only said something along the lines "What you build in yourself is your own beer."
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 ![]() |
Where did you look it up, J? I talked with my GM about it and he only said something along the lines "What you build in yourself is your own beer." P.44 and P.128 of Arsenal covers basic modification rules for armor. P. 128 also covers Vehicle & Weapon mods. In short, all Vehicles/Weapons/Armor can support a finite number of mods. Players can pick and choose what items they want. There's zero reason why you can't install skimmer discs into armor, unless your GM is a total asshat or you as the player are coming up with lame/bizarro ideas. If you're getting skimmer discs in say, boots that are part of FFBA or full body armor or greater, I don't see the issue. - J. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 ![]() |
Ah, thank you.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 1-January 09 Member No.: 16,727 ![]() |
... Other ideas involved making the suit fireproof, water proof, coating the jacket/mask/FFBA with ruthenium polymers, turning the jacket into a flying squirrel suit for low altitude jumps, etc. I had a stack of ideas.... While not milspec armor, it was designed intentionally to be far more flexible and usable in multiple environments (and appear to be little more than run of the mill clothing). - J. And he would be called... THE BATMAN! |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 20-October 08 Member No.: 16,537 ![]() |
P.44 and P.128 of Arsenal covers basic modification rules for armor. P. 128 also covers Vehicle & Weapon mods. In short, all Vehicles/Weapons/Armor can support a finite number of mods. Players can pick and choose what items they want. There's zero reason why you can't install skimmer discs into armor, unless your GM is a total asshat or you as the player are coming up with lame/bizarro ideas. If you're getting skimmer discs in say, boots that are part of FFBA or full body armor or greater, I don't see the issue. - J. FFBA has boots only in the full body version, and has no capacity rating (it makes sense it's made to be worn under clothes/armor, adding stuff would make it too bulky). Also the only armors that display the ability of accepting enhacements similar to the one seen for cyberware a the military grade ones, I would leave it that way; beside that I think that almost any enhacement that can be installed in a cyber-limb/torso/skull can be installed in the relevant part of the armor as long it doesn't require replacement of part of the wearer body to work (such as telescopic cybrelimbs, just to make an example). |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 ![]() |
FFBA has boots only in the full body version, and has no capacity rating (it makes sense it's made to be worn under clothes/armor, adding stuff would make it too bulky). Also the only armors that display the ability of accepting enhacements similar to the one seen for cyberware a the military grade ones, I would leave it that way; beside that I think that almost any enhacement that can be installed in a cyber-limb/torso/skull can be installed in the relevant part of the armor as long it doesn't require replacement of part of the wearer body to work (such as telescopic cybrelimbs, just to make an example). I don't know what armors have what capacity rating as my books aren't here. But most of them do have capacity IIRC. If it has capacity, it can be done. - J. |
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