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Snow_Fox
post Feb 1 2009, 03:34 AM
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OK I held off on publishing this because it really did bother me.

It happened last week to me and I could only think this is how a lot of SR stuff could start. For those who don't know I'm in finance. The company I work for was holding off on publishing it's annual report until the end of the month. This was important because it would include a list of what it's holdings are, something not updated since the summer. There were a lot of inquires from lcients who wanted to know what the holding were and we were not able to tell them. This was propriatary info and we were the people on the do not tell list because we dealt with lcients regulalry and might lsip if we knew.

Well on Monday, someone accidentally routed a copy of the annual report to the printer in my office. 5 days in advance and there I was, holding in my hands the report everyone wanted. Listing what companies we dumped and which we had bought into. Serious insider knowledge the sort of stuff that could cause problems. Forexampel we obught considerable maounts of Boeing and Northrup. We hadn't had any defense accounts before and suddenly we had a lot og stuff. a lot of aeronautics and the knowledge of this could affect the stocks as people bought into them-for example we increased our holdings in Pfizer, which took a serious hit this week, and I knew how much we held.

Now imagine I'm a good little corper in 2070 who finds herself finding this stuff? It very quickly became aparent how much trouble i could get into with it if not careful.
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post Feb 1 2009, 03:54 AM
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Wow, that is intense. I hope it didn't cause too much trouble for you, I know that is the kind of thing that could spawn no end of pressing questions from one's superiors.

It is also an absolutely incredible plot hook. It the kind of cinematic moment where time seems to stand still as all the possibilities both fantastic and horrible considered. Part of it is the fact that one is unprepared for the situation, usually pay-data is sought after rather then dropped into ones lap on accident. Once you learn something, you can't unlearn it though. (well technically you can with laes) In any case, it reminds me of famous stories like The Pearl by John Steinbeck or Hackers (the guy didn't realize just how hot the data was at the beginning)
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post Feb 1 2009, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 31 2009, 08:34 PM) *
Now imagine I'm a good little corper in 2070 who finds herself finding this stuff? It very quickly became aparent how much trouble i could get into with it if not careful.


So? What happened? How did you deal with it? Is the person who sent the sensitive info to the wrong printer still employed there?
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post Feb 1 2009, 04:46 AM
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I'm guessing you didn't take the opportunity to engage in a little insider trading or you probably wouldn't be posting about it on here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 1 2009, 05:07 PM
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Right, I love my licence and do notwant to be talknig to federal investigators about insider trading. It might be impossible to prove but it would be suspicious if I had gone out and sold short on Pfizer or bought up Boeing, and the urle of thumb on any licences exams i've taken is 'if it looks questionable, it's wrong."

I don't know where it came from but it's easy to send to the wrong printer in our system and yeah, after thinking 'neat that's what we've got" I thought "Oh S*** this is insider stuff." It's probably a bad sign of how i think that the next htought was "Just like SR."
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post Feb 1 2009, 06:50 PM
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heh, make sure your office has a lighter or matches available, and a metal container of some sort...

oh, and when i first read the thread title, i was thinking this would be a RL example of the night of rage, or the technomancer incident...
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post Feb 1 2009, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Feb 1 2009, 11:50 AM) *
heh, make sure your office has a lighter or matches available, and a metal container of some sort...

Most every office has shred bins.... That doesn't set off the smoke alarms.
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post Feb 1 2009, 08:46 PM
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heh, while true, they can be recovered, unless we are talking about the kind that produce confetti...
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post Feb 2 2009, 05:37 AM
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Given that I have a confetti producing shredder for my house they aren't hard to come by. The ones at my office reduce paper to pieces smaller than that left behind by a hole punch.

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I handle "Confidential" and "Company Privileged" information as a routine part of my job. I feel for ya, Snow_Fox.
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post Feb 2 2009, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jan 31 2009, 10:34 PM) *
OK I held off on publishing this because it really did bother me.

It happened last week to me and I could only think this is how a lot of SR stuff could start. For those who don't know I'm in finance. The company I work for was holding off on publishing it's annual report until the end of the month. This was important because it would include a list of what it's holdings are, something not updated since the summer. There were a lot of inquires from lcients who wanted to know what the holding were and we were not able to tell them. This was propriatary info and we were the people on the do not tell list because we dealt with lcients regulalry and might lsip if we knew.

Well on Monday, someone accidentally routed a copy of the annual report to the printer in my office. 5 days in advance and there I was, holding in my hands the report everyone wanted. Listing what companies we dumped and which we had bought into. Serious insider knowledge the sort of stuff that could cause problems. Forexampel we obught considerable maounts of Boeing and Northrup. We hadn't had any defense accounts before and suddenly we had a lot og stuff. a lot of aeronautics and the knowledge of this could affect the stocks as people bought into them-for example we increased our holdings in Pfizer, which took a serious hit this week, and I knew how much we held.

Now imagine I'm a good little corper in 2070 who finds herself finding this stuff? It very quickly became aparent how much trouble i could get into with it if not careful.


So what you're saying is that we should all call our stockbrokers, immediately? Thanks for the tip.


In SR, I imagine that there are four types of people who could get that information. Type 1 is the sort that would try to avoid trouble as efficiently as possible, and shred it immediately without comment. Type 2 is the good little employee who would report it to the boss. Type 3 is the greedy sort who would use it to plot their own stock ownership decisions. Type 4 is the ambitious sort who would use that information to curry favors, steal clients, and blackmail some important people.

After a certain point, no one but Type 4s will ever get promoted.
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post Feb 2 2009, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Feb 1 2009, 10:57 PM) *
After a certain point, no one but Type 4s will ever get promoted.

Those that don't get assassinated or killed in "random senseless street violence".
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post Feb 2 2009, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (kzt @ Feb 2 2009, 01:56 AM) *
Those that don't get assassinated or killed in "random senseless street violence".


Or from multiple self-inflicted shotgun rounds to the head.
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post Feb 2 2009, 02:57 PM
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A good guideline to follow is "If I break the law and in so doing, make a whole lot of money for a some people who already have a whole lot of money, I'm okay. If i use this information and someone LOSES a whole lot of money, I'm screwed. Sideways."
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post Feb 2 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Feb 1 2009, 01:07 PM) *
Right, I love my licence and do notwant to be talknig to federal investigators about insider trading. It might be impossible to prove but it would be suspicious if I had gone out and sold short on Pfizer or bought up Boeing, and the urle of thumb on any licences exams i've taken is 'if it looks questionable, it's wrong."

I don't know where it came from but it's easy to send to the wrong printer in our system and yeah, after thinking 'neat that's what we've got" I thought "Oh S*** this is insider stuff." It's probably a bad sign of how i think that the next htought was "Just like SR."


Well, selling short would have been suspicious, but you could have gotten away with buying. After all, you weren't even supposed to know this info. Hell, you could have bought a few shares of Pfizer and a couple other random stocks just to cover your tracks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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post Feb 4 2009, 11:05 AM
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Hmm. A thought strikes me. For whatever reason the runners need leverage on a target. The hacker "accidentally" sends sensitive very profitable info to the targets desk. No matter what the target does the runners have levergae on them.
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post Feb 4 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (crash2029 @ Feb 4 2009, 12:05 PM) *
Hmm. A thought strikes me. For whatever reason the runners need leverage on a target. The hacker "accidentally" sends sensitive very profitable info to the targets desk. No matter what the target does the runners have levergae on them.


I love that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
Next time, I want to blackmail the PCs, I know what to do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 4 2009, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (IceKatze @ Jan 31 2009, 10:54 PM) *
Once you learn something, you can't unlearn it though. (well technically you can with laes) ...

Another run idea.

"My name is Mr. Johnson. I need one dose of Laes and I need it... forty five minutes ago. Once you have the drug, I need you to place it in back of the staffroom fridge on the thirty-eighth floor of Henson & Bedge's Financial offices. Judging from my body mass index, that will give you eight hours and fifteen minutes starting from when you got this call."
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post Feb 4 2009, 02:08 PM
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post Feb 4 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Feb 4 2009, 07:52 AM) *
Another run idea.

"My name is Mr. Johnson. I need one dose of Laes and I need it... forty five minutes ago. Once you have the drug, I need you to place it in back of the staffroom fridge on the thirty-eighth floor of Henson & Bedge's Financial offices. Judging from my body mass index, that will give you eight hours and fifteen minutes starting from when you got this call."

But will he remember to pay us?

Reminds me of a Philip Dick short story, actually, though I can't recall the name...
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post Feb 4 2009, 07:23 PM
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The Philip Dick story were the guy invents (or rips off) technology only to have his memory erased every time he completes the job?
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post Feb 4 2009, 09:12 PM
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"We can remember it for you wholesale" ?

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post Feb 4 2009, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Alex @ Feb 4 2009, 02:23 PM) *
The Philip Dick story were the guy invents (or rips off) technology only to have his memory erased every time he completes the job?


That's his? Awesome. I saw a movie based off of that idea that I loved. I'd tell you the title, but they wiped my memory when I changed jobs.

(I know, they didn't do very well at it. That's government for you.)
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post Feb 4 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ Feb 4 2009, 03:09 PM) *
But will he remember to pay us?

Reminds me of a Philip Dick short story, actually, though I can't recall the name...

may be the perfect time to use a escrow account, or whatever its called.
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post Feb 4 2009, 10:12 PM
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Paycheck, was the story. Can't believe I found it. That guy's written a megaton, sheese.

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Jennings, a talented electronic engineer, has accepted a bizarre contract with Rethrick Construction. The terms of the contract state that he will work for two years on a secret project after which he will have his memory of the time erased and will be paid an inordinate sum. He wakes up to find that during his tenure he decided to forgo the payment of money and instead receive an envelope of trinkets.
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QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Feb 4 2009, 04:12 PM) *
"We can remember it for you wholesale" ?


Nah, this is the one about fake memories being real.
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