If you do, though -- and I suggest it, it's a great game -- score it for the 360 if you can and get the Gold Edition. It's normally the same price as the normal, but comes with eight characters that were previously only available by way of paid download. Cyclops, Hawkeye, Nightcrawler (three of my favorites), and The Hulk from the "good guy" side, and you can play as Magento, Venom, Sabretooth, or Doctor Doom for when you're feeling a bit more sinister. Good times await.

i had considered the sparrow, but it technically can't have the walker mod as that is ground only, whereas the LTA mod is for any vehicle you want (for some weird reason).

however yes, that would probably be the superior way to do it if you have an accomadating GM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

alternately, you could try to convince your GM to allow the sparrow to carry you around inside my horseman (minus the LTA) but that seems a little bit iffy to say the least (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually, I'm fairly certain he was at least once, when they had him lose his company, then fall off the wagon in a big way.

So... when I have a magician that lets his ally spirit possess a military armor do its armor ratings increase by the force? I suppose they would.

I had to laugh. Miniaturized x14 Boeing Eagle-C
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you realize, of course, that this thread has been dead for allmost one year?

One thing everyone forgets, your not limited by mod slots on an original production. You can include all the stuff you want and call it all stock, so it doesn't take any slots.

Hush you! Don't you know that a lot of people like to practice Necromancy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head?

to bad they never really used it in the movie...

This thread always hit me as a touch silly anyway. Tony's suit pretty much obliterates SR tech. I mean, he made an AI for his suit that was essentially a backup of his own mind, for god's sake. It called itself Tony 2.0. Also, he basically shits nanites at this point.

To say nothing of the micro fusion reactor in his chest NOT irradiating him to death.

It was an ARC reactor, not a micro fusion one.

The AI for his suit was not a copy of his mind either. From the movie, he took a copy of his house AI and had it run the suit.

Also, it didn't call itself Tony 2.0. It's name was Jarvis.

and jarvis is his (physical) butler from the comics...

We're talking about comic book characters here; I'm not wrong, I'm just talking about a different continuity than you are. In this case, you're talking about the movie while I'm talking about the comics, particularly a 6 issue run by Adam Warren.


Basically, the OP's premise was laughably short of what comic book Iron Man is capable of. Tony would annihilate a 500 bp street sam. Possibly from orbit, if he's feeling saucy.

well, the movie was set pretty close to where he started out.

and sure enough, like all comic heros, iron man have seen a fair bit of power creep over the years...

The Arc reactor in the movie was akin to a tokamak AND contained palladium.

When palladium is at room temperature and atmospheric pressure, it can absorb up to 900 times its own volume of hydrogen, which makes palladium an efficient and safe storage medium for hydrogen and hydrogen isotopes. This perhaps indicates that the arc reactor uses hydrogen as a fuel.

Making it a micro fusion reactor... That and when Obidiah gathers engineers to build his own ARC reactor, he recruits them from the Toroidal Fusion department.

Power creep is practically a core Iron Man character concept at this point. Stark's an inventor and a future fetishist, modeled after guys like Howard Hughes, men who believed that industrialism and technological innovation were America's core strengths. The character's personal ideology has never really outgrown the dreams of the jet age-- Stark still believes tech is the answer more than any other Marvel hero. Further, he has the easiest upgrade path to write for; everytime he encounters a new innovation, man made or alien in origin, he reverse engineers it into a new form of armor upgrade. Meanwhile, how were top tier characters supposed to get stronger in the meantime? What is Thor supposed to do? Become extra godly? He's actually already done that once by becoming the head of his pantheon.

Honestly, I wouldn't even call it power creep in Tony's case; it's too much of an understatement. He's basically bootsrapped his way into the top tiers of Marvel heroes at this point. Usually, when a character fights above his weight class and wins in comic books, it's usually due to one-offs and authors taking liberties with a deus ex machina. Tony, on the other hand, has the odd distinction of having most of his upgrades being ushered immediately into the canon. For example, with the Hulkbuster armor he can can square off against big green in hand-to-hand combat without embarrassing himself and it's all kosher. That's essentially the Marvel equivalent of taking a Thor shot to the face. Tony is a bad, bad man, and you'd have to go back to '60s continuity before a street sam could have a chance in hell.

there is a reason why i stick to spidey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

See, I don't mind Tony's power creep as much as I mind the liberties that have been taken with Spidey over the years. Him and Wolverine are poster children for characters fighting above their weight class and then having the incident get quietly swept back under the rug once the completely arbitrary story arc is over. It's quite maddening. Also, the whole Mary Jane pseudo-retcon has me confused. On the one hand, I don't really hate it that much. On the other hand, I think I only don't hate it due to how much they screwed up Spider-man over the last decade or so in the first place. He needed a change of direction, even if I think this was a weird way to go about it.


Addendum: I am a huge nerd.

ya ain't seen nutting yet Bub.
ever read the whole shebang of Wolverine?
and what do you mean, ABOVE HIS WEIGHT CLASS?
there is no such thing <.< . .
well, okay, maybe the hulk and Juggernaut for example . .
Or Magneto . . they only did not manage to kill him, but he lost quite clearly to all of them . .

Wolverine isn't a terribly powerful character. His original role in X-men comics essentially boiled down to getting worked liked a speed bag. Basically, he served as a barometer for when violence won't work in a given X-Men encounter anymore, a way of demonstrating how powerful a given new villain is without having to kill anyone off. If the writer needed to demonstrate that the villain can do Bad Things to people, he could always just go ahead and have Bad Things happen to Wolverine, since they can just write in "he shook it off" later. Basically, Wolverine's shtick consisted of being incapacitated without actually ever dying. He's frankly a rather narrow character who was only built up after his rather inexplicable popularity started raking in money for no good reason; his clear wins are typically against mundos or limited to one shots that have minimal effects on anyone's continuity, even his own (Magneto notwithstanding). Basically, he's like the Thing but with a goofy haircut, a narrow plot device that eventually grew into a more fleshed out character. Fans can cheer for him all they want, but he's essentially one step above street level super heroes in the big scheme of things.

Wolfie did have lots of depth to him [chris claremont days are great !!]...
...But he became very popular, and devolved into someone with a very limited repertoire

I think he ended up being the Marvel version of Lobo, because Lobo became a wildly popular character [tho, Lobo was probably based on an exaggerated Wolfie]

You have to remember that these things come in waves. Wolverine started out as a 1 dimensional character for the Hulk to beat the tar out of back in the '70s. He was then brought into the X-men, but the writers didn't think he was very interesting, which led to Claremont nearly dropping him entirely. (Un?)fortunately, John Byrne, one of the artists, argued to keep him because he said comics needed more Canadian characters (I guess Canucks stick together). Eventually, they managed to make something out of him. In all fairness, I have to admit that most characters are only as good as their writers and that there's been some pretty decent Wolverine arcs alongside the bad ones.


As for Lobo, he started out as a rarely used, ill-defined character and then was reshaped as an outright parody of Wolverine. I'll let this quote from his creator speak for itself: "I have no idea why Lobo took off. I came up with him as an indictment of the Punisher-Wolverine bad ass hero prototype and somehow he caught on as the high violence poster boy. Go figure."

That's interesting.
I remember the whole Alpha Flight thing, which was part of Wolfies past.
I thought it was just part of his backstory.

I loves Wolfie at that time - lots of Samurai honor stuff going on


Lobo ended all over the place, doing guest appearances...
...And he'll always be popular, because there'll always be people who think violence is the only solution [as the Punisher and Wolfie show]

My task, gentlemen, if you're upto it...
...Spec Wolfie using SR [but in another thread, methinks]

Can it even be done ??