 What Do You Think of the Matrix Rules?, And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest. How do you feel? |
 May 10 2009, 08:38 PM
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Mr. Johnson  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314  |
I'm looking for a giant list of Good Things and Bad Things about the Matrix in SR4 and SR4A. Specific items only, please; neither propaganda or whining will be useful to me (make your own topic if you feel so inclined). Also, please just talk about the rules as written; house rules are also unhelpful. All I'm looking for is a specific rule or set of rules along with what it is about that rule or set of rules that you like or dislike (e.g. it's elegant, you like rolling that many dice, it's too complex, you don't understand it, etc.).
This is me doing research for my own project. It's not affiliated in any way with CGL or any of the devs. Thanks. |
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Aaron What Do You Think of the Matrix Rules? May 10 2009, 08:38 PM
kzt For SR4 rules, that it's script kiddies and ag... May 10 2009, 09:06 PM
Draco18s QUOTE (kzt @ May 10 2009, 05:06 PM) In te... May 10 2009, 09:14 PM Lindt Im pretty much with kzt here. The more you know a... May 10 2009, 09:27 PM Matsci QUOTE (Lindt @ May 10 2009, 02:27 PM) Im ... May 10 2009, 09:32 PM TeOdio I have always encouraged having a Decker/Hacker in... May 10 2009, 10:10 PM Aaron Once again, I'm asking for specifics, please. ... May 10 2009, 10:29 PM Larme Specifically, I like how the rules are simple. Ha... May 10 2009, 10:46 PM Draco18s I think one of the things that really bugged me wa... May 10 2009, 10:49 PM Odsh The subscription limit seems like a clumsy and art... May 11 2009, 12:05 AM The Jake I'm in IT Security. Yep the rules are silly bu... May 11 2009, 01:03 AM Wasabi My main character is a Technomancer good ONLY for ... May 11 2009, 01:53 AM hobgoblin QUOTE (Wasabi @ May 11 2009, 03:53 AM) Co... May 11 2009, 06:13 AM Larme I think that programs don't come included beca... May 11 2009, 02:58 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Larme @ May 10 2009, 10:58 PM) I t... May 11 2009, 03:44 AM kigmatzomat I'm willing to ignore the unrealistic aspect o... May 11 2009, 03:55 AM Cain I'm surprised no one's gotten into Otaku y... May 11 2009, 04:59 AM BlueMax QUOTE (Cain @ May 10 2009, 09:59 PM) I... May 11 2009, 06:49 AM GreyBrother I second Cain here as a bad point.
But the good p... May 11 2009, 05:31 AM MKX The newer rules are ten times better than the vers... May 11 2009, 06:17 AM Dhaise I like the current rules just fine for "solo ... May 11 2009, 07:56 AM Ryu I don´t have SR4A so far. I´m also a bit unsure ... May 11 2009, 10:12 AM crizh Lots of stuff I'm sure, I'll post back lat... May 11 2009, 12:22 PM Blade In SR4 (I don't know about SR4A but it seems l... May 11 2009, 12:26 PM crizh Which reminds me.
More emphasis needs to be place... May 11 2009, 12:54 PM GreyBrother QUOTE (crizh @ May 11 2009, 02:54 PM) *sn... May 11 2009, 01:37 PM Draco18s QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 11 2009, 09:37 A... May 11 2009, 03:14 PM kzt QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 11 2009, 07:37 A... May 11 2009, 04:36 PM paws2sky Good:
Hacking is dramatically easier to integrate... May 11 2009, 03:24 PM Draco18s QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 11 2009, 11:24 AM) ... May 11 2009, 04:07 PM BlueMax QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 11 2009, 07:24 AM) ... May 11 2009, 04:12 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 11 2009, 05:24 PM) ... May 11 2009, 05:39 PM BlueMax QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 11 2009, 10:39 AM)... May 11 2009, 05:58 PM paws2sky QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 11 2009, 01:39 PM)... May 11 2009, 06:03 PM hobgoblin I would say it depends on what level of detail one... May 11 2009, 05:34 PM Draco18s QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 11 2009, 12:34 PM)... May 11 2009, 06:27 PM BlueMax Paws,
I wish there were levels of VCR, like the ... May 11 2009, 06:20 PM paws2sky QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 11 2009, 02:20 PM) P... May 11 2009, 08:18 PM DireRadiant The Matrix suffers from the inherent problem of th... May 11 2009, 06:35 PM Draco18s Welcome to the Matrix, I am agent Smith. May 11 2009, 06:58 PM Octopiii There are too many Skills. The Matrix is supposed... May 11 2009, 07:20 PM Larme QUOTE (Octopiii @ May 11 2009, 02:20 PM) ... May 11 2009, 08:00 PM Octopiii QUOTE (Larme @ May 11 2009, 01:00 PM) Can... May 12 2009, 01:41 AM Larme QUOTE (Octopiii @ May 11 2009, 09:41 PM) ... May 12 2009, 02:18 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Larme @ May 11 2009, 10:18 PM) The... May 12 2009, 02:35 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 08:35 PM) ... May 12 2009, 02:50 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 11 2009, 10... May 12 2009, 02:56 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 08:56 PM) ... May 12 2009, 03:03 AM Aaron QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 08:56 PM) ... May 12 2009, 03:39 AM kigmatzomat QUOTE (Aaron @ May 11 2009, 11:39 PM) To ... May 12 2009, 04:09 AM kzt QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ May 11 2009, 10:09 P... May 12 2009, 04:13 AM Aaron QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ May 11 2009, 10:09 P... May 12 2009, 11:55 AM hobgoblin QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 12 2009, 04:56 AM) ... May 12 2009, 06:25 AM Larme QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 12 2009, 01:25 AM)... May 12 2009, 06:30 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 11 2009, 07... May 12 2009, 03:14 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Octopiii @ May 11 2009, 08:14 PM) ... May 12 2009, 03:26 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 11 2009, 08... May 12 2009, 05:10 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Octopiii @ May 11 2009, 11:10 PM) ... May 13 2009, 02:05 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 12 2009, 07... May 13 2009, 06:36 AM Larme QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 09:35 PM) ... May 12 2009, 06:21 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Larme @ May 11 2009, 07:18 PM) No,... May 12 2009, 03:10 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Octopiii @ May 11 2009, 08:10 PM) ... May 12 2009, 03:14 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 11 2009, 08... May 12 2009, 03:17 AM Neraph Yes, there are 8 skills, but only 2 skillgroups. 1... May 11 2009, 08:15 PM Prime Mover Passcode system has always seemed abit odd to me. ... May 11 2009, 08:24 PM Aaron So much for avoiding topic drift. Yer all puds. =i... May 12 2009, 01:59 AM kigmatzomat QUOTE (Aaron @ May 11 2009, 09:59 PM) And... May 12 2009, 04:00 AM Draco18s QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ May 12 2009, 12:00 A... May 12 2009, 04:03 AM Aaron QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ May 11 2009, 10:00 P... May 12 2009, 12:11 PM Blade QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2009, 02:11 PM) Now... May 12 2009, 12:27 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Blade @ May 12 2009, 08:27 AM) Wha... May 12 2009, 04:50 PM BlueMax QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 12 2009, 08:50 AM) ... May 12 2009, 04:58 PM Aaron Since you asked ... =i)
QUOTE (Blade @ May 1... May 12 2009, 09:45 PM Blade QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2009, 11:45 PM) Tha... May 13 2009, 03:03 AM Aaron QUOTE (Blade @ May 12 2009, 09:03 PM) My ... May 13 2009, 12:12 PM Ryu QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2009, 02:11 PM) I... May 12 2009, 04:40 PM kigmatzomat QUOTE (Aaron @ May 12 2009, 08:11 AM) I... May 13 2009, 03:45 AM Octopiii QUOTE (kigmatzomat @ May 12 2009, 08:45 P... May 13 2009, 06:49 AM paws2sky QUOTE (Aaron @ May 11 2009, 09:59 PM) So ... May 12 2009, 12:50 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 12 2009, 02:50 PM) ... May 12 2009, 02:01 PM Snow_Fox As oneof theh old outs against 4th ed (and gee lar... May 12 2009, 02:32 AM Chrysalis @Aaron,
May I recommend a structured questionnair... May 12 2009, 04:39 AM GreyBrother Wasn't there exactly such a thing in the third... May 12 2009, 06:40 AM hobgoblin QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 12 2009, 08:40 A... May 12 2009, 07:00 AM Larme The rules we're talking about are indeed real.... May 12 2009, 08:14 AM Octopiii QUOTE (Larme @ May 12 2009, 12:14 AM) The... May 12 2009, 08:52 AM hobgoblin whats the saying again? designed by artists, playe... May 12 2009, 12:21 PM GreyBrother I would say no. Or can you determine how if i acce... May 12 2009, 02:11 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 12 2009, 04:11 P... May 12 2009, 02:26 PM paws2sky QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 12 2009, 10:26 AM)... May 12 2009, 02:29 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (paws2sky @ May 12 2009, 04:29 PM) ... May 12 2009, 02:32 PM ornot I found the Matrix section of the BBB appeared to ... May 12 2009, 03:38 PM Wesley Street The Good: Matrix rules permit PC hackers to actual... May 12 2009, 03:58 PM Warlordtheft Background- I use the optional skill plus logic, l... May 12 2009, 04:49 PM Larme QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 12 2009, 12:49 ... May 12 2009, 05:59 PM hobgoblin QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ May 12 2009, 06:49 ... May 12 2009, 05:59 PM DireRadiant Defaulting is a good example.
Outside the Matrix ... May 12 2009, 06:01 PM Ryu One thing about the matrix rules is complexity:
Pr... May 13 2009, 10:30 AM Malachi QUOTE (Ryu @ May 13 2009, 04:30 AM) One t... May 13 2009, 04:01 PM Wasabi I disagree that the skills are wallpaper to a hack... May 13 2009, 10:47 AM  |
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