 Totems & Mentor Spirits |
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 May 19 2009, 11:11 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507  |
Does anyone see anything missing from the Sixth World Wiki: Totem List?
It's what I was able to put together for a new campaign, and was hoping for other sets of eyes. |
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May 19 2009, 11:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
Voudoun Loa don't appear to be updated to reflect their SR4 equivalent (yet, all the Pagan Gods are?).
That's just off the top of my head. - J. |
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May 19 2009, 11:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ May 19 2009, 07:25 PM)  Voudoun Loa don't appear to be updated to reflect their SR4 equivalent (yet, all the Pagan Gods are?). Thanks, I had forgotten about the pantheon lists in Street Magic. The current one in the SWW article is from State of the Art: 2064. Although it's too bad that Bacchus, Lover, Sea King, Siren, and Wild Huntsman were not included in Street Magic, since it means that the connections described in that book could not make use of them. |
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May 20 2009, 12:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
Bacchus is a Horned Man by Street Magic; Poseidon, the only one whose only equivalence is Sea King, is Sea; and no aspects have only Siren or Horned Man. Hence, everything's covered.
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May 20 2009, 02:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
QUOTE (tsuyoshikentsu @ May 19 2009, 08:47 PM) Bacchus is a Horned Man by Street Magic; Poseidon, the only one whose only equivalence is Sea King, is Sea; and no aspects have only Siren or Horned Man. Hence, everything's covered. Ah, but what about all the other pantheons? How many of those 'gods' should be one of the missing Idols? |
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May 20 2009, 03:29 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
If you read Street Magic, there is a writeup of every major tradition and their respective totems.
E.g. Quetzacoatl used to be "Plumed Serpent" in 2nd ed. Now it is a variation of "Snake" under SR4. Erzuile is now the "Seductress". Etc. - J. |
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May 20 2009, 05:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
QUOTE (MJBurrage @ May 19 2009, 07:44 PM) Ah, but what about all the other pantheons? How many of those 'gods' should be one of the missing Idols? Only Fenrir, whose entry refers to "toxic." Not having SR3, I don't know what that means. |
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May 20 2009, 05:19 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (The Jake @ May 19 2009, 06:25 PM) Voudoun Loa don't appear to be updated to reflect their SR4 equivalent (yet, all the Pagan Gods are?). That's just off the top of my head. - J. You're implying that voodoo isn't pagan. That's funny. You're also implying that all "pagan" pantheons are basically the same. That's also funny. |
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May 20 2009, 07:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Reston VA, USA Member No.: 6,046 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ May 20 2009, 01:19 PM) You're implying that voodoo isn't pagan. That's funny. You're also implying that all "pagan" pantheons are basically the same. That's also funny. My [possibly flawed] understanding is that "pagan" has several different meanings to different people.
Sounds like he was using the first definition, not the second. (Though I'd agree that he'd still be off about all paganism being the same.) |
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May 20 2009, 07:46 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
*watches the thread train derail*
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May 20 2009, 08:15 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,653 Joined: 22-January 08 Member No.: 15,430 |
QUOTE (Neraph @ May 20 2009, 01:19 PM) You're implying that voodoo isn't pagan. That's funny. You're also implying that all "pagan" pantheons are basically the same. That's also funny. Maybe you should have clicked the link before you decided to mock someone's supposed ignorance. The Jake wasn't implying anything, that's how it's listed in the wiki. The wiki lists basically the Greek/Roman and Norse gods as "pagan," and not the loa. I guess if you have such a problem with that you can go ahead and try to edit the wiki, eh? |
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May 20 2009, 09:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 24-July 08 From: Resonance Realms, behind the 2nd Star Member No.: 16,162 |
QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 20 2009, 09:46 PM) *watches the thread train derail* Popcorn? *munch munch* |
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May 20 2009, 10:41 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (MJBurrage @ May 20 2009, 01:42 AM) Thanks, I had forgotten about the pantheon lists in Street Magic. The current one in the SWW article is from State of the Art: 2064. This is one of the topics you might want to use the most current version/errata for. QUOTE ('SM errata 1.2') p. 184 Celtic (pantheon)
Add “; god of craftsmen Goibhniu.� p. 184 Chinese (pantheon) Add “; the Dragon Kings (Dragon) and the Phoenix Empress (Phoenix).� p. 184 Classical (pantheon) Add to the list: “; god of blacksmiths and artisans Hephaestus.� p. 184 Egyptian (pantheon) Add “; warrior/guardian Sekhmet (female Lion).� p. 184 Hindu (pantheon) To the end of the list add: “; death goddess Kali (aspects of the Dark Goddess); Durga the avenger (female aspect of Lion)� p. 184 Norse (pantheon) To the end of the list of deities add: “; god of craftsman Weiland.� |
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May 21 2009, 03:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 166 Joined: 8-April 09 From: Columbus, Ohio, USA Member No.: 17,061 |
QUOTE (GreyBrother @ May 20 2009, 04:40 PM) QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 20 2009, 02:46 PM) *watches the thread train derail* Popcorn? *munch munch* Am I late for the show? Oh, hey, popcorn! |
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May 21 2009, 03:08 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Writer @ May 20 2009, 09:05 PM) Popcorn? *munch munch* Am I late for the show? Oh, hey, popcorn! Got any Gummy Worms? |
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May 23 2009, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
Updated the Sixth World Wiki entry with all the pagan pantheons from Street Magic. P.S. the "Pagan" terminology is right from the Sourcebooks.
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May 23 2009, 09:54 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 872 |
QUOTE (Larme @ May 20 2009, 08:15 PM) Maybe you should have clicked the link before you decided to mock someone's supposed ignorance. The Jake wasn't implying anything, that's how it's listed in the wiki. The wiki lists basically the Greek/Roman and Norse gods as "pagan," and not the loa. I guess if you have such a problem with that you can go ahead and try to edit the wiki, eh? Bingo. Neraph, before you try and take shots at someone, get your facts straight first. - J. |
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May 23 2009, 10:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
QUOTE Neraph, before you try and take shots at someone, get your facts straight first. You're talking about the guy that spewed some crap in another thread on his religious views and still flashes his offensive sig ('We live only to serve.') around with pride. Whatever. Let him keep on living as a slave to his mythology, and I'll keep on ignoring anything he says on these forums that's based on his RL beliefs. |
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May 23 2009, 11:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
Weren't there also some new ones in Digital Grimoire? Are those in there and not credited, or did I miss something?
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May 24 2009, 12:51 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,653 Joined: 22-January 08 Member No.: 15,430 |
QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 23 2009, 06:43 PM) You're talking about the guy that spewed some crap in another thread on his religious views and still flashes his offensive sig ('We live only to serve.') around with pride. Whatever. Let him keep on living as a slave to his mythology, and I'll keep on ignoring anything he says on these forums that's based on his RL beliefs. Why is that sig offensive? Google has failed to provide me the answer. |
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May 24 2009, 12:59 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
I find the notion of servitude to mythological beings offensive.
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May 24 2009, 01:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
Then don't believe in it, and stop yelling at everyone else.
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May 24 2009, 01:13 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
Who's yelling?
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May 24 2009, 02:02 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
You, in post 18.
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May 24 2009, 02:08 AM
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Man Behind the Curtain Group: Admin Posts: 14,871 Joined: 2-July 89 From: End of the Yellow-Brick Road Member No.: 3 |
This is not the place to air your personal prejudices. Discussions of religion as well as trolling and baiting are a violation of the TOS. If you think I might be able to stretch a link of any of those to a post you have made (or want to make), consider this a free warning.
Please return to the topic or feel free to invoke your right to remain silent. |
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