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post Jul 17 2009, 04:19 PM
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I never understood why only Eastern Drakes got opposable thumbs. It doesn't seem to fit with what has already been established in other books, specifically Dragons of the Sixth World. According to that all dragons (At least those with paws) are highly dextrous and have opposable thumbs. Not that it matter all that much, just something that always nagged at me.
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post Jul 17 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (CodeBreaker @ Jul 17 2009, 04:19 PM) *
I never understood why only Eastern Drakes got opposable thumbs. It doesn't seem to fit with what has already been established in other books, specifically Dragons of the Sixth World. According to that all dragons (At least those with paws) are highly dextrous and have opposable thumbs. Not that it matter all that much, just something that always nagged at me.

Uh...no. From the very first edition, Eastern dragons were the ones with thumbs.
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post Jul 17 2009, 04:34 PM
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It's not just thumbs. There are a number of factors required in order to have paws that maintain the same manual dexterity as human hands.

Digit size (girth and length), claw length, number of joints, flexibility of said joints, strength of the joints...
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post Jul 17 2009, 04:46 PM
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Magic Fingers (I hate the name of that spell; it sounds like magical child molestation) or a Power Pact for Psychokinesis would work for those of us who want hands. Or, check out the link in my Sig for a way to get super-powers on any mage.
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post Jul 17 2009, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 17 2009, 12:46 PM) *
Magic Fingers (I hate the name of that spell; it sounds like magical child molestation) or a Power Pact for Psychokinesis would work for those of us who want hands. Or, check out the link in my Sig for a way to get super-powers on any mage.


That would work, I suppose. I don't recall Magic Fingers being all that great for doing things like firing guns, but...

Also, they're invisible so you couldn't sign with them.
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post Jul 17 2009, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 17 2009, 12:08 PM) *
That would work, I suppose. I don't recall Magic Fingers being all that great for doing things like firing guns, but...

Also, they're invisible so you couldn't sign with them.

At force 6 they are 6 agi with a -2, unless you overcast they wouldn't be great, but still decent. Also, don't forget your energy attack. Change it to Blast or Sonic if you're worried about not doing dmg.

For signing, true. But, could you not write on the floor with your claws? Or just have people ask yes or no questions?
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post Jul 17 2009, 05:28 PM
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Or play Charade . .
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post Jul 17 2009, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Jul 17 2009, 01:13 PM) *
For signing, true. But, could you not write on the floor with your claws? Or just have people ask yes or no questions?


It's about speed. If you suddenly notice something in a combat situation how would you tell your team mates?

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Play Charades?


(I abused your post a bit, but the idea is there)

You can sign (using the 26 signs for the alphabet) about as fast as you can talk in normal conversation. If you start adding in complete words as one sign it only gets faster.
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:32 PM
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And there are allready signs for words in every day use known to most people
*flips you the bird* you are nuts.
*shows middle finger salute* Asshole.
*makes ring with index and thumb with rest of the fingers pointing straight up* O.K.
*rolls in rest of the fingers and hits thumb/index finger with flat hand* i think you can all guess this one.
*Thumbs up* It's AAAWWRIIIGHT!
*thumb down* booh, stinks.
and so on, and so on.
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 17 2009, 04:32 PM) *
*flips you the bird* you are nuts.
*shows middle finger salute* Asshole.


Uh. Those are the same gesture.
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:40 PM
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ok, then what's repetedly tipping the tip of your index finger to your temple?
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 17 2009, 04:40 PM) *
ok, then what's repetedly tipping the tip of your index finger to your temple?


I don't know. Sorry.
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post Jul 17 2009, 08:58 PM
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*grmbl*
here i thought i knew that stuff <.<
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post Jul 17 2009, 09:16 PM
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That's "touched in the head," SS. Everyone, please keep in mind that some gestures are not universal and depend on culture. The bent elbow is a classical example of this, though gaining popularity again.
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Uncle Ani to the Rescue ^^
What's with the bent elbow?
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post Jul 17 2009, 09:44 PM
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It's an exaggerated "up yours" gesture. Bare right arm toward individual -> grab pit of right elbow with left hand -> swiftly bring right fist into an upright position by bending right elbow.
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post Jul 17 2009, 09:46 PM
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ah that one ^^
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post Jul 18 2009, 05:16 AM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jul 17 2009, 03:44 PM) *
It's an exaggerated "up yours" gesture. Bare right arm toward individual -> grab pit of right elbow with left hand -> swiftly bring right fist into an upright position by bending right elbow.

I knew that one as "fisting". Like the Spaceballs Salute.

There's also the Italian f-signal, not to be confused with "thank you" in ASL (American Sign Language)...
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