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post Aug 5 2009, 07:50 AM
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Is there any positive quality or errata in another book that will let you be a Infected Technomancer?
I was really hoping there was something that let me do it, but obviously the Infected rules in the Runner's Companion says "A character with any Infected quality cannot take any quality that grants Resonance (and loses them if he previously possessed them)."

So I was hoping that it has been mentioned in another book i'm not aware of?

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post Aug 5 2009, 08:02 AM
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Infected creatures always have Magic, and as the core book states, Magic and Resonance are mutually exclusive. So no, there is no way you can be an infected technomancer, at least until something gets released that contradicts that.
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post Aug 5 2009, 02:32 PM
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Does that mean that a technomancer can't get infected ?
Or will he loose his Resonance ?

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post Aug 5 2009, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 5 2009, 10:32 AM) *
Does that mean that a technomancer can't get infected ?
Or will he loose his Resonance ?

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I would assume that he would simply lose his Resonance.
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post Aug 5 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 5 2009, 04:32 PM) *
Does that mean that a technomancer can't get infected ?
Or will he loose his Resonance ?

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Reread the quoted text from runner's companion in the thread opener ...

A character with any Infected quality cannot take any quality that grants Resonance (and loses them if he previously possessed them).
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Andinel @ Aug 5 2009, 03:02 AM) *
Infected creatures always have Magic, and as the core book states, Magic and Resonance are mutually exclusive. So no, there is no way you can be an infected technomancer, at least until something gets released that contradicts that.

Remember, we're here to tell a good story. It is completely against RAW, but in the spirit of fun, I think it should be allowed. Once.

Remember, the shadows are evolving.
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Mr. Mage @ Aug 5 2009, 06:45 AM) *
I would assume that he would simply lose his Resonance.

Ohh good God. Why do I imagine my group killing all infected with extreme prejudice now.

Thanks!

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post Aug 5 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 5 2009, 01:45 PM) *
Remember, we're here to tell a good story. It is completely against RAW, but in the spirit of fun, I think it should be allowed. Once.

Remember, the shadows are evolving.


I say "Screw RAW! It just gets in the way!"
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (BlueMax @ Aug 5 2009, 07:47 PM) *
Ohh good God. Why do I imagine my group killing all infected with extreme prejudice now.

Thanks!

BlueMax

Just curious, why would they ever refrain from doing so anyway? O.o
As soon as i get pointed at something that looks like it was recently bathed in bleach i will simply not let go of the trigger until i have to reload. which i won't be doing. i will simply switch out the weapon and continue shooting untill the second guns is emtpy too. THEN i will start running and reloading.
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post Aug 5 2009, 05:55 PM
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I mean... vampires/nosferatu/banshees/goblins/DNQ/wendigos actually have to try pretty hard to infect you. And in any event, remember that the best defense against Infected is not looking tasty. Elf changeling chicks with tailored pheromones and Glamour beware.
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post Aug 5 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 5 2009, 10:52 AM) *
Just curious, why would they ever refrain from doing so anyway? O.o
As soon as i get pointed at something that looks like it was recently bathed in bleach i will simply not let go of the trigger until i have to reload. which i won't be doing. i will simply switch out the weapon and continue shooting untill the second guns is emtpy too. THEN i will start running and reloading.

Legality.

Some of them infected folk are protected now.

Morality.

They are all ex-cops and believe they still need to protect those who need help.

However, self-preservation... preservation of powers... those will override all that noise.

BlueMax
/some still think they are cops.
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post Aug 5 2009, 06:04 PM
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You just gotta wait until the resonance version of HMHVV pops up.
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post Aug 5 2009, 06:19 PM
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Toxic Technomancers with Sacrificing . . yeah . . i'm afraid it will happen sooner or later . . Someone WILL built Ancient Histories Bone-Machine
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 5 2009, 07:52 PM) *
Just curious, why would they ever refrain from doing so anyway? O.o


Because you intend to become an immortal (age related) vampiric pawn who is addicted to Renfield and thus is the means for his "master" to eternally live as well ... oh ... and no longer having problems with installing endless amounts of cyber- and bio ... all just because the Renfield-rules are pretty much as fubared as the infection rate of HMHVV-II and HMHVV-III.

But that has nothing to do with vampiric Technomancers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 5 2009, 07:35 PM
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Yeah, and i think we had that discussion on the official german board too ^^
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post Aug 6 2009, 12:56 AM
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Well at the risk of contradiction the all powerful raw. Dark Father one of Mirage's Otaku was a ghoul so from a "logic" standpoint there should be no problem with at least ghoul Technomancers. Although ghouls seem to be the least magical of the infected so your taste may vary
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 6 2009, 01:56 AM) *
Well at the risk of contradiction the all powerful raw. Dark Father one of Mirage's Otaku was a ghoul so from a "logic" standpoint there should be no problem with at least ghoul Technomancers. Although ghouls seem to be the least magical of the infected so your taste may vary


From a Logic standpoint that indicates that an Infected can be an Otaku. Technomancers are different. Apply the use of handwavium here.

I dunno, the transformation from normal Metatype to Infected screws around with the natural Bioelectrical Field of the person, screwing up their powers. Changes in brain chemistry, the reorganisation of the nervis sytem. Lots of other things that sound scientific. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:04 AM
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That that depends if you think technomancers are not created by the same phenomena as the Otaku, which I don't.

Edited to remove the overtones of Jerk that were not meant to be there.
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 6 2009, 02:04 AM) *
That implies that you think technomances are not created by the same phenomena as the Otaku, which I don't.


Not really. Just that the process is different.
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:08 AM
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I guess that gets to the nuts and bolts of the Otaku/Technomancers then. Personally I believe the only thing different between Otaku and Technomancers is the stiumli that causes their break through.
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:22 AM
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Wasn't there a little retconing concerning TM and Otaku?
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 5 2009, 05:22 PM) *
Wasn't there a little retconing concerning TM and Otaku?

Can you be a bit more specific?
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:39 AM
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Somewhere at the back of my mind a voice is telling me Otaku where declared to having been TMs all along. But I don't know where I picked this up. Might have been inofficially.
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post Aug 6 2009, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 5 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Somewhere at the back of my mind a voice is telling me Otaku where declared to having been TMs all along. But I don't know where I picked this up. Might have been inofficially.

not that i've heard. in fact, there are canon characters who were otaku who are not technomancers.
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post Aug 6 2009, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 5 2009, 05:39 PM) *
Somewhere at the back of my mind a voice is telling me Otaku where declared to having been TMs all along. But I don't know where I picked this up. Might have been inofficially.

Well, I'm hardly an expert on canon, but I don't remember seeing anything like that. Otaku were tools of Deus; TMs seem to be something else, with the Emergence analogous to the Awakening. It might be a derived phenomenon or just something similar, but I don't think they're actually the same thing.
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