How in the world can you say that? This is Shadowrun... weird/freaky things happen all the time. Look at the GGD and the creation of the NANs... that is unbelievable; UGE and Goblinization... weird; Bug City & SURGE... Freak Show Inc.; Technomancers... weird. The list goes on and on and on.

Also with augmentation you can get a cat girl easy. Just look at this bozo... and this is done with 2009ish technology. Just think what you can do in 2065+ technology.

This is what I was thinking of, maybe. It's been a while since I read it, and may be mixing it up with another story as well.

Why is that? The person wants to play one and it IS a game. Let the person have fun.

You have to consider the fun of all involved, if having fun for one person means totally screwing the fun for 3 or 4 others... you get the idea. If they consent to it, on the other hand...

Dunno about catgirls/-boys either.

Now Wolfmen are much more interesting...

But what would be the RIGHT reason anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

I'm kind of with the Tolerance Faction here. I have a player in my game that takes great satisfaction in their PC killing people and sometimes smashing up their bodies. Am I really being told that this is more tolerable / healthy than someone who just wants to have some little ears and a tail?

Anyway, combining the fetishes and desires and trends of today, with the technology of SR2070, it would be unrealistic for the setting not to have cat girls, wolf boys and whatever other variations people might fancy becoming. (Although I don't like Surge as a reason).

Let us not forget that this surgery would be reversible. It could easily be a phase you go through or something you try out for a bit. The key question would be how acceptable it would be in general life. Is the receptionist at your place of work a catgirl? Is your manager? What about your sensei at your Ju-Jitsu club? Does he look like a grizzly bear?

K.

Why not have SURGE as a reason?

I mean I have Chaos Mage character who is a SURGEd Foxboy. I took Vomeronasal Organ, Celerity, & Balance Tail as positive metagenetics and Impaired Body and Impaired Strength as Negative metagenetics. I also took Moderate Allergy to Silver.

The back story is that his ancestors during the Fourth Age included some fox shapeshifters, and that during that time Fantasy Genetics™ worked. So when the Comet came around, his Fox shapeshifter heritage came out. That also explained why he's allergic to Silver.

I always encourage anyone playing a Catgirl/boy, or a Furry/Exotic type character to have full skillwires...*whistles innocently and hides the Bunraku "recruiters"...*

*breaks of the akward silence of you hidding thinks by breaking into the thread with a big sign saying "I´m a furry...but not the freaky kind...and proud of it!"*




another wrong, okey people one more shoot before i end this of topic hunt for stars

Sign me up as a tolerator and encourager of the freaky and weird. Catgirls - well, never had one at my table, but I've had characters that were close to it. I *like* weird; this is Shadowrun, after all, and after UGE, dragons, awakened animals, drakes, bugs..I mean, the door is open for pretty much anything to come flying through by this point.

Would I allow a catgirl? Depends on the player. I know the gf could get away with it, cause she's my SO and we play one on one games, but my old group I'd be wary as fuck because I know what kind of trouble they'd cause. But SURGE in general doesn't bother me, and I would actually encourage people to take the trait if they were waffling on it.

Didn't that kitsune comic just stop suddenly? I remember enjoying it when I discovered it..

Bull: Its okay. YotC was a great book - one of my favorite SR books of all time. Ghostwalker, SURGE, shedim, comet frenzy...lots of good stuff in that book.

The hooker boots are the least disturbing, but dammit they need to be put on drakes.

I blame Square and Final Fantasy for the increase in anthropomorphic desire.

Ratgirls
Catgirls
Bunnygirls

fixed :3

Clarification: I don't have any issue with using cyberware and bioware to make catgirls. I do have an issue with the idea that a fragging comet would make people suddenly mutate into a zillion and one different fantasy creatures. I'm trying to keep a modicum in realism in an already fairly unbelievable game universe, and the comet stuff is like a bad B-movie.

Two things here:
1) exactly where is the line that defines "freaky furry" from "furry"?
2) being furry doesn't warrant pride, it's like being proud about having breakfast.
"Pride is, either a high sense of the worth of one's self or one's own or a pleasure taken in the contemplation of these things."
"Now the man is thought to be proud who thinks himself worthy of great things, being worthy of them; for he who does so beyond his deserts is a fool, but no virtuous man is foolish or silly. The proud man, then, is the man we have described. For he who is worthy of little and thinks himself worthy of little is temperate, but not proud; for pride implies greatness, as beauty implies a goodsized body, and little people may be neat and well-proportioned but cannot be beautiful. Pride, then, seems to be a sort of crown of the virtues; for it makes them greater, and it is not found without them. Therefore it is hard to be truly proud; for it is impossible without nobility and goodness of character." ~Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics



Same here. I sadly never got to do anything fun with my drake, but I greatly enjoyed having the possibility. The closest he came to turning into his dracoform was in a fight on a boat against two high power water spirits conjured by two cyber-naga mages.

Highschool teachers must have a tough time...

Of course not! Everybody knows the best sensei is a ratman.

Er, most everyone eats breakfast. The same can't be said about furries.

1) that like many things is up to each person, for me the line is crossed over from furry to freaky furry when you start dressing up like a anthro animal

2)well thats your opinion I guess. I feal pride and thats all to it.

Surge or most other things from YoTC didn't bother me. What got to me was the Shedim those got old freaking quick.

I personally don't use surge or any type of freaky mods because I personally don't like them. It's just not my style. I'm just not that pink mohawk.

Now I have to ask. If dressing up as an anthromorphic animal makes you a freaky furry, what's on the non-freaky side of the line?

again this is only my view, I don´t claim what i say to be right or wrong. For the non freaky side are the ones who just appreciate the art, mayby can see a inner animal in there soul, mayby even rp as a anthro animal threw chats and forums but who in the end have a solid anchor with reality and can accept that in the end it´s a fantasy.


Again just my 2 cents on the whole thing.

Someone who eats breakfast does it every day. There's no pride to feel. That's the comparison.



1) so the adult themed artwork doesn't bother you?
2) mostly it's someone else's opinion that I agreed with as pride is "worth from accomplishments;" proud of the things you do. "Self Pride" is dignitas, loosely translated as dignity.

not at all, my furry adult folder is 1,12 GB big, 98% is just pictures a few kb big :3

This.

I played in a Dragonlance game once where one of our buddies decided he wanted to play an Illusionist paederast who went around creating phantasms of 9' tall phalluses ejaculating. Our GM was tolerant and let him play it despite the rest of our refusals to play with said character. We spent the entire session passing notes to each other plotting his death before passing a final note to the GM setting it in motion. Player stormed off and spent a month in the penalty box before rejoining.

Actually I guess in the end I got an amusing if disgusting annecdote so it wasn't all bad. Imagine our horror at the time however.

I read that recently - was a catgirl fixer in there called Tabby.

Liked the backstory for her - was a reasonably sucessful shadowrunner, then got hit by SURGE and turned into a catgirl. After that, nobody wanted to work with her as she was too distinctive, so she switched over to fixing with help from a friend... thought it worked kinda well.

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Although I'm amazed she didn't use her awesome charisma, monowhip and 'kitty scritch scritch' claws to seduce and then kill Lofwyr - stealing all his gold, obviously.
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Kids, lets leave the furry discussion for another board. Especially the discussion about the adult stuff. Lets keep this relevant to Shadowrun.