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Alex Moldovia
So a few friends of mine were talking recently and mentioned that they put cat girls in shadow run, I thought I'd check it out and see what the heck everyone was complaining about, but I can't even find it mentioned I don't even know what book to look for in stores... I know I looked through all the ones the local stores did have (God I hate being in the middle of fucking no where) but I can't find it, so I have a simple question... Where is it found and what's the big deal. (Include Page numbers if you can, thanks!)
Adam
Runners Companion has material -- SURGE -- that could be used to make "catgirls," if one were so inclined. But it's not a major part of the setting by any means.
Method
I'm sure they were talking about some of the metagenetic qualities listed in Runners Companion, with which one could create a cat girl if one so desired, although for the life of me I don't know why anyone would.

But yes. There are cat girls.
remmus
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 08:23 PM) *
Runners Companion has material -- SURGE -- that could be used to make "catgirls," if one were so inclined. But it's not a major part of the setting by any means.


agmentation book also has bioware that can do that


but i see no wrong in catgirls....the wolrd needs more cat related things (mew!) :3
X-Kalibur
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 01:23 PM) *
Runners Companion has material -- SURGE -- that could be used to make "catgirls," if one were so inclined. But it's not a major part of the setting by any means.


Ewww, you got furry in my cyberpunk! spin.gif
remmus
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 19 2009, 08:26 PM) *
Ewww, you got furry in my cyberpunk! spin.gif


oh I forgot the world need more furry related stuff too :3
McAllister
QUOTE (Method @ Aug 19 2009, 02:25 PM) *
I'm sure they were talking about some of the metagenetic qualities listed in Runners Companion, with which one could create a cat girl if one so desired, although for the life of me I don't know why anyone would.

You... you don't? Really? I think you're one of approximately 40% of people who's rationally disgusted by the idea of catgirls because you find the internet's fascination with them disturbing (and that I can agree with), but deep down they appeal to you. grinbig.gif
Shinxy
Really, you could always do that with cosmetic cyberware and bioware. Also see Fox Shapeshifters, which have been around since SR2.
Method
I would rather chew on light bulbs than have cat girls as a regular feature of my SR world, but as it turns out I'm not the only one that plays this game or has an opinion... ohplease.gif

And, McAllister, I can assure you that cat girls are about as appealing to me as tranny porn. You can make of that what you will.
BlueMax
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Runners Companion has material -- SURGE -- that could be used to make "catgirls," if one were so inclined. But it's not a major part of the setting by any means.

<clearly said to be humorous>
Maybe how *you* play it.
</humor>

Was it Chrome? or Chrome 2.0 that had catgirl suites for CP2020?

BlueMax


remmus
QUOTE (Shinxy @ Aug 19 2009, 08:31 PM) *
Really, you could always do that with cosmetic cyberware and bioware. Also see Fox Shapeshifters, which have been around since SR2.


yeah but whatever you do don´t correct a runner how to pronounce Kitsune, or he might kill her (gold star to anyone getting the reference, tip has nothing to do with the rulebooks)
X-Kalibur
QUOTE (remmus @ Aug 19 2009, 01:35 PM) *
yeah but whatever you do don´t correct a runner how to pronounce Kitsune, or he might kill her (gold star to anyone getting the reference, tip has nothing to do with the rulebooks)


Anything to do with a certain webcomic?
BookWyrm
Yes, the majority here is right. You can use SURGE or cyber/bioware to create your own catgirl.

Sometimes they can be cute, but sometimes they can be downright creepy.
remmus
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Aug 19 2009, 08:36 PM) *
Anything to do with a certain webcomic?


nope, tip 2, its a series of videos
SeriousPaul
As I recall, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bull have a hand in getting that crap into YoTC? The next time he comes up this way I swear to the gaming gawds he's not getting any shots until he explains this one!
remmus
QUOTE (SeriousPaul @ Aug 19 2009, 08:41 PM) *
As I recall, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bull have a hand in getting that crap into YoTC? The next time he comes up this way I swear to the gaming gawds he's not getting any shots until he explains this one!


YoTC?
Shinxy
QUOTE (remmus @ Aug 19 2009, 02:42 PM) *
YoTC?


Year of The Comet. SR3 sourcebook.
X-Kalibur
Year of the Comet, one of the last SR3 sourcebooks to be released if my memory serves me.
'Sconnie
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 07:23 PM) *
Runners Companion has material -- SURGE -- that could be used to make "catgirls," if one were so inclined. But it's not a major part of the setting by any means.


As Traveler Jones said in Augmentation:

[ Spoiler ]


I damn near sprayed my monitor with coffee when I read that one.
Adam
QUOTE (SeriousPaul @ Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM) *
As I recall, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bull have a hand in getting that crap into YoTC?

Pretty sure that he didn't, actually.
Stahlseele
Wasn't that quote exactly used in YOTC or Shadowrun3rd Companion?
tete
There is also at leased one piece of art from SR3 with a girl with a cybertail.
underaneonhalo
I was always partial to bunny girls myself. Anime ones mind you, furry stuff kind of creeps me out.
Bull
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 02:07 PM) *
Pretty sure that he didn't, actually.


Thank you Adam.

I was actually fairly appalled at the whole Catgirl thing. You can blame a lot of YotC on me (At the very least, I was in the YotC brainstorming session and agreed with a lot of what went into the book, if I didn't suggest it in the first place), but Catgirls were not my thing.

One thing that we wanted to do with YotC was mirror the original Awakening. SURGE was the YotC version of UGE. But *MY* idea had been to simply have a new round of goblinization and simply make Metahuman's a bit more common, and possibly use that section as a chance to make some of the Sapient Critters playable races. This got tweaked into the recessive metagene thing, where someone might express only a partial Metahuman gene (Just the dermal deposits of a troll, or a dwarf's thermo vision). Somehow, this turned into SURGE. And Catgirls.

*shudder*
X-Kalibur
QUOTE (tete @ Aug 19 2009, 02:08 PM) *
There is also at leased one piece of art from SR3 with a girl with a cybertail.


Man and Machine, Balance Tail. It's actually a great little piece of work too.
Malachi
QUOTE (Alex Moldovia @ Aug 19 2009, 12:21 PM) *
So a few friends of mine were talking recently and mentioned that they put cat girls in shadow run, I thought I'd check it out and see what the heck everyone was complaining about, but I can't even find it mentioned I don't even know what book to look for in stores... I know I looked through all the ones the local stores did have (God I hate being in the middle of fucking no where) but I can't find it, so I have a simple question... Where is it found and what's the big deal. (Include Page numbers if you can, thanks!)

This is a case of people taking something of a tangential nature and turning it into a sweeping criticism.
Ol' Scratch
I forget which sourcebook it was (may very well have been YotC, but I think it may have also been the one that introduced the more complex rules for Lifestyles) in SR3, but there was a fluff piece that included an interview with catgirl pornstar or something to that effect. There was also a lot of porn-related photos and source material added in those last few sourcebooks for SR3. Pretty lame all around.

Anyway. Catgirls are more than just a possibility with the rules for metagene qualities, they're actually in the game.
Adam
Yeah; SURGE is just one small part of YotC, and a very ignorable one at that. smile.gif
Kronk2
QUOTE (remmus @ Aug 19 2009, 01:35 PM) *
yeah but whatever you do don´t correct a runner how to pronounce Kitsune, or he might kill her (gold star to anyone getting the reference, tip has nothing to do with the rulebooks)


well there was that shadowrun webcomic a few years back that had a kitsune in it wink.gif
Shinxy
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 19 2009, 03:06 PM) *
Yeah; SURGE is just one small part of YotC, and a very ignorable one at that. smile.gif

Oh do I ever...

I stopped playing SR before YotC hit, and when I came back to it in the past year I looked in horror at the rules in Runner's Companion! No playing DnD freakshow attractions in my games, thank you. My suspension of disbelief is already sufficiently stretched with elves orks dwarves and trolls.
Stahlseele
Even so, Bio/Cyber STILL will make them happen . .
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/138663...cf8c51fd7_o.jpg
Warlordtheft
QUOTE (Bull @ Aug 19 2009, 02:52 PM) *
Thank you Adam.

I was actually fairly appalled at the whole Catgirl thing. You can blame a lot of YotC on me (At the very least, I was in the YotC brainstorming session and agreed with a lot of what went into the book, if I didn't suggest it in the first place), but Catgirls were not my thing.

One thing that we wanted to do with YotC was mirror the original Awakening. SURGE was the YotC version of UGE. But *MY* idea had been to simply have a new round of goblinization and simply make Metahuman's a bit more common, and possibly use that section as a chance to make some of the Sapient Critters playable races. This got tweaked into the recessive metagene thing, where someone might express only a partial Metahuman gene (Just the dermal deposits of a troll, or a dwarf's thermo vision). Somehow, this turned into SURGE. And Catgirls.

*shudder*


Must have been some guy in marketing... biggrin.gif
wylie
i think dominion tank police might have spiked people's interest in catgirls
knasser
QUOTE ('Sconnie @ Aug 19 2009, 08:04 PM) *
As Traveler Jones said in Augmentation:

"Real Life catgirls are proof that the spirits love us and want us to be happy."

I damn near sprayed my monitor with coffee when I read that one.


Sconnie - how can you quote that line and not quote the even better reply from Mika on the next line:

QUOTE
"Oh look, I’ve just rolled my eyes so far back that I can see my brain"


That line cracked me up. Whoever is responsible gets bonus points.

On topic, I have no especial dislike of catgirls, but they are one of a very large number of possible modifications people get in SR2070. I like to play up the weirdness that is no longer weird a little in my game just to make the setting richer and more real.

K.
InfinityzeN
If anyone used to play CP2020 or has the Chrome books, one of them has a great writeup in fitting the whole body modification thing to look like animals section in it. Pretty sure it was in 3, along with the section on 'Play Beings'.
Chrysalis
QUOTE (BlueMax @ Aug 19 2009, 08:35 PM) *
<clearly said to be humorous>
Maybe how *you* play it.
</humor>

Was it Chrome? or Chrome 2.0 that had catgirl suites for CP2020?

BlueMax



There is no such thing as Chrome 2.0, it was Chromebook 2. It had the exotics at the end of the book, and the exotic in question was the last one in the book. So you could play a drake, ork, troll, or even superman if so inclined. I know CP2020 intimately.

But I mean if you want to play a cat girl you can just use augmentation and the optional rule that being a 6 foot pussy cat in hooker boots gives you a +2 to charisma.
Stahlseele
Only questions:
How is that +2 acquired?
Does the Pussy give +1 and the Hooker boots +1?
Does the Pussy bit give +2?
Do the Hooker Boots give +2?
And most important:
Which of the above is the least disturbing?
Chrysalis
The surgical procedure, between +1 and +3. But if its about the kinky boots, go for those.
RunnerPaul
QUOTE (Shinxy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:31 PM) *
Also see Fox Shapeshifters, which have been around since -SR2-.


SR1.

Fixed that for you.

Yes, Fox Shapeshifters have had tails in their human forms all the way back to the original core rule book 20 years ago.
BlueMax
QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Aug 19 2009, 02:32 PM) *
There is no such thing as Chrome 2.0, it was Chromebook 2. It had the exotics at the end of the book, and the exotic in question was the last one in the book. So you could play a drake, ork, troll, or even superman if so inclined. I know CP2020 intimately.

But I mean if you want to play a cat girl you can just use augmentation and the optional rule that being a 6 foot pussy cat in hooker boots gives you a +2 to charisma.


Please accept my apologies for the incorrect naming.


BlueMax
Tachi
I don't know what misbegotten soul is responsible, but, I have some VERY vague recolections of a catgirl fixer contact in the Denver Missions, or a Denver something. Maybe. I can't remember for sure. But I think it's there somewhere. God help us. We're gonna need to stock up on kitty litter if this kind of stuff keeps happening.
Bull
I wouldn't worry about it...

However, I will say this... To a certain degree, Catgirls aren't exactly out of place in Cyberpunk. From a lot of Cyberpunk themed Anime to William Gibson, the idea of anthromorph modified people (Usually through bio-sculpting) has been around for decades. <shrug> SO they're not really THAT out of place (Though I dislike them as a Surge option).

However, my rule for Catgirls is the same as my rule for Kender... 99% of the time, anyone who WANTS to play one, is someone who should NOT be allowed to play one. Because they're usually playing them for the wrong reason.

Bull
The Jake
It was Chromebook 2.0 btw.

There was the tiger man and the playbunny bodysculpts going from memory. Not sure there was a 'catgirl' per se.... its been awhile since I owned that book.

FWIW, Gibson hates the hint of fantasy in his gritty cyberpunk future. He is officially quoted as being a Shadowrun hater.

- J.
Bull
QUOTE (The Jake @ Aug 19 2009, 08:03 PM) *
It was Chromebook 2.0 btw.

There was the tiger man and the playbunny bodysculpts going from memory. Not sure there was a 'catgirl' per se.... its been awhile since I owned that book.

FWIW, Gibson hates the hint of fantasy in his gritty cyberpunk future. He is officially quoted as being a Shadowrun hater.

- J.


Yup, but that's ok. We still "borrowed" a lot from him. And as I said, he used some of this stuff as well, IIRC. Wasn't it the Johnny Mnemonic short story that had a couple bio-sculpted dog gangers or some such?
RunnerPaul
QUOTE (Bull @ Aug 19 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Wasn't it the Johnny Mnemonic short story that had a couple bio-sculpted dog gangers or some such?


If you're thinking of the Magnetic Dog Sisters, they were described as "thin as greyhounds" and "nearly identical as cosmetic surgery could make them" but nowhere did it say that they were biosculpted to look like actual dogs. One was a post-op transgender though.
'Sconnie
QUOTE (Bull @ Aug 20 2009, 02:00 AM) *
However, my rule for Catgirls is the same as my rule for Kender... 99% of the time, anyone who WANTS to play one, is someone who should NOT be allowed to play one. Because they're usually playing them for the wrong reason.


Not to drag the thread off-topic, but Bull's post reminds me of a D20 Modern Urban Arcana game I ran in college once. One of my players managed to talk bribe me into letting him play a Kender. This character eventually learned to fly aircraft, much to the horror of the people on the Wizards board at the time.
Shinxy
QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Aug 19 2009, 09:28 PM) *
If you're thinking of the Magnetic Dog Sisters, they were described as "thin as greyhounds" and "nearly identical as cosmetic surgery could make them" but nowhere did it say that they were biosculpted to look like actual dogs. One was a post-op transgender though.


Naw, later in the story Johnny falls in with a group of gangers with dog fangs, and even gets his own done later when he decides to live with them. As I recall.
Bull
QUOTE ('Sconnie @ Aug 19 2009, 08:43 PM) *
Not to drag the thread off-topic, but Bull's post reminds me of a D20 Modern Urban Arcana game I ran in college once. One of my players managed to talk bribe me into letting him play a Kender. This character eventually learned to fly aircraft, much to the horror of the people on the Wizards board at the time.


Hah! Awesome, if a bit terrifying smile.gif
Telion
Dr. Funk... I believe your refering to Sprawl Survival Guide.
toturi
QUOTE (Bull @ Aug 20 2009, 09:00 AM) *
However, my rule for Catgirls is the same as my rule for Kender... 99% of the time, anyone who WANTS to play one, is someone who should NOT be allowed to play one. Because they're usually playing them for the wrong reason.

Bull

But having the wrong reasons for playing Catgirls is the right reason to allow them in your game.
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