Are you referring to this golden piece of cinema?
I imagine sound element strikes would be 'hella loud'.

That was it. Surprisingly fast too. That's how I imagine elemental strike light and killing hands.

Yeah, I think the sound would be more like sonic booms than anything cool.

No, Blast is quiet . . As it is, basically, just the WIND Element.
You are mixing this up with the SOND Elemental effect, which really does make more noise.
For Blast i would give a whoosh or something, but not more.

Does Elemental strike and a Martial arts style
put you on track for the distinctive style flaw?

Honestly,
how many people punch you with a sonic boom
or with flashy light effects?

Most people who do any punching and watch Tri-D i'd wager . .

I was doubtful about blast, but yeah I imagine sound would be quite loud.

I'm a firm believer in the fingertip compartment and monowhip school of unarmed combat as well. I don't have the knowledge of 4th as the other editions so I could be overestimating it's usefullness. If anything you could also get a normal whip and moonlight as a dominatrix. Hell you could use that as a cover sometimes.

Quick question: HOW the heck is an implanted Monowhip unarmed combat to you?
Only way i can see that being unarmed combat is on a critical glitch losing an arm

Guy charging you? Suppressive fire. Long Burst. (You know, this wouldn't be so bad if we had some GRENADES!)

well consider you can armor yourself quite good I don´t see suppressive fire working much, especially if the melee character has dom brains and back stab you rather then running full blazing.

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So I guess finger flails don't count as unarmed.

A troll using dead ganger arm clubs, is that unarmed combat?

That same armor is also protecting you against his club/knife/axe/etc, you also get to roll more dice for defense against a melee character. I watched my friend make a troll boxer who got destroyed in combat. Oh sure, he didn't take much damage, but it adds up quickly, and for whatever reason, he couldn't connect in melee to save his life. This may have simply been an omen however, as he rarely rolled many net hits, if any (Maybe the GM was hot that day)

wouldn´t that class as onearmed combat?

Nope, he's saying that elemental strike only gives your strike a special effects (like setting thinks on fire or electric shock).
I was pointing out that there's no such think as an elemtal damage in the system, damage and armor piercing are a part of the elemental effects.

Actually, 3-Armed combat. Troll has two and is swinging the third ^^

Double plus good

It's unarmed combat the same way spurs are. It's attached to you, you aren't holding it and thus can't get disarmed. Unless you glitch of course. Might just be argueing semantics though.

Spurs ain't unarmed combat neither . .

agreed, the right tgerm is hand to hand combat, unarmed is just your plain old body

methinks they are mixing unarmed and melee combat together, which, if you with to lump them, is CQC. Spurs are considered melee combat, hence why the specialization for them is not covered under unarmed (or, without a weapon... *cough*)

/edit - Hand to Hand implies unarmed as well, hence being named hand to hand

Ok should have used the term melee combat. I'll keep that in mind.

Still like the monowhip/fingertip compartment combo.

Still gonna make Bruce Leeroy.

Still think elemental effect sound is kinda silly and loud.

That same armor also has Impact lower than Ballistic, generally speaking, so you have less soak dice. And you are making an assumption that the defender in question has Dodge, Unarmed or a Weapon skill...in my experience, that's not a given.

I'm not going to say that the melee guy, charging the gun bunny has better odds, as its fairly normal to get a couple more dice with your firearms than a melee dice pool, plus the gun bunny is pinching off a couple shots or bursts (which may actually level the playing field). But that first attack by the melee guy is likely going to knock the gun bunny down, and if that's the case, the defender loses a couple dice for being prone, 1 or 2 for the wound (most likely) and now the melee guy has superior position and attacking a prone opponent (5 extra dice)...

And this is all without extra dice or maneuvers from martial arts...just basic melee combat.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
*takes a deep breath*
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!

Then factor in Reach if you're a Troll or something and you are set to deliver a seriou asswhooping.

It has to be this way, else nobody would bother and everybody would just shoot their guns into faces for money.

Wait, you mean I can't just stick my gun into someone's face for money? Way to shatter my hopes and dreams... jerk.

@Deek - I understand where you're coming from, and I don't want it to sound like unarmed/melee isn't important. Quite the opposite, like many skills it has it's place. You can't use guns for everything, but by the same token, you can't use punching for everything, or magic for everything, or drones for everything, etc, ad nauseum. Also, I don't think it's unfair to assume a gunbunny has dodge. I'd be more surprised by one that didn't have any.

mayby not to 100%...but to 99% you could

I thought gunbunnies all had gymnastics. Or is that just munchkin gunbunnies?