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post Mar 25 2010, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Tachi @ Mar 25 2010, 08:25 AM) *
Well, I just dug through some PDFs I inherited from a friend yesterday when he "officially retired" from RPGs, and I think the one I have is R3 then. Yep, FASA SKU 7910. Unfortunate. Oh well, I guess I can still use it, somehow, to write my own. Until now I never realized how big his PDF library actually was. 112 PDFs with only a few duplicates. Damn.


Hopefully it's not 112 Shadowrun PDFs, since there has never been 112 Shadowrun PDFs published.

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post Mar 25 2010, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (Larsine @ Mar 25 2010, 04:26 AM) *
Hopefully it's not 112 Shadowrun PDFs, since there has never been 112 Shadowrun PDFs published.

Lars

No, it's not all Shadowrun, plus, some of it is PDFs generated by people here on Dumpshock. Quite a few are Shadowrun though. How many Shadowrun PDFs are there from all the editions? Any idea? WAG?
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post Mar 25 2010, 10:50 AM
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Officially? Those on BattleShop.
Pirated? A whole lot more.
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Oh... ok.
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post Mar 25 2010, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Mar 25 2010, 11:50 AM) *
Officially? Those on BattleShop.
Pirated? A whole lot more.


[disclaimer] this post is not ment to encourage or promote pircacy or copyright infrictions.[/disclaimer]


when I was recently downloading some of the old AD&D FR-stuff from one of the web-filehosters, I stumbled upon some files which were hungarian translations for a lot of SR2 and SR3 books. And I gotta say, I was really amazed, those hungarian fans (supposedly) transfered some old scans of the fasa books into completly translated, ocr'ed and newly edited versions of the respective books - all as the work of fans for fans.
it's still illegal (I guess), but I was just thrilled by all the work they put into it and how great the outcome was, and also I don't think that this kind of stuff doesn't hurt CGL or wizkids.

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post Mar 25 2010, 12:36 PM
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Maybe it was done by the same guys that did the Hungary Sourcebook?

I always hated people arriving to conventions with copied books. As if it'd cost a fortune to play SR...
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post Mar 25 2010, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (Arclight @ Mar 25 2010, 01:36 PM) *
Maybe it was done by the same guys that did the Hungary Sourcebook?


can't tell, I don't own that SB.

that's the translation-credits for the SR3 Quick Start Rules:
"A magyar változatot fordította és szerkesztette:
xxx „Skull” xxx
Elérhetõség:
E-mail xxx
Weblap xxx
A fordításból semmilyen anyagi vagy egyéb hasznom nem származott."

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:23 PM
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You really should remove that reference. If only for the poor guy.
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Mar 25 2010, 02:23 PM) *
You really should remove that reference. If only for the poor guy.


done, I actually only postet it, because it made me think that if the actually postet all that personal info that his translations are somehow legal... but I guess you're right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 25 2010, 01:32 PM
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If memory serves though, the FASA R3 vehicles are fine. It's just the creation rules which are fubared (and the EW rules, which are functional, if incredibly complex - but that didn't change with R3R).

I haven't seen the Rigger's Black Book (the SR2 version) in ages and ages. I seem to recall it having much cooler pictures, but nothing else. Since actual vehicle stats are basically interchangeable between 2 and 3, 2 should also work nicely for your game.
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post Mar 25 2010, 02:17 PM
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I bought the old Rigger Black Book just for the eye candy. Best eye candy book though was Prime Runners though. RBB had the old damage codes though.
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QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Mar 25 2010, 03:17 PM) *
I bought the old Rigger Black Book just for the eye candy. Best eye candy book though was Prime Runners though. RBB had the old damage codes though.

I miss those catalog style SR books.
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post Mar 25 2010, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE (Professor Evil Overlord @ Mar 24 2010, 11:26 PM) *
Because Rigger 3 (unrevised) was so full of errors that they literally printed a different edition of the book to fix it. The errata file for Rigger 3 was around twenty pages long. And was absolutely necessary to use the book. Most of the modification rules were completely changed by the errata. The revised version included all of the errata right in the main text, so no need to mark up your copy of the book (something that's hard to do to a PDF). For people who still use SR3 it's pretty much essential for a vehicle or drone heavy game.


I know the differences between the books, I've got both in hard copy. I just wasn't sure why Rigger would be the most prized PDF over others.
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post Mar 25 2010, 04:10 PM
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I think part of it is also perceived scarcity. Rigger 3 came out just before FASA shut its doors, so there's a sense of it being more rare.
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Mar 25 2010, 02:32 PM) *
I haven't seen the Rigger's Black Book (the SR2 version) in ages and ages.


You mean SR1, SR2 had Rigger 2. RBB was the book where you could turbocharge an electric engine *snicker*, I knew what they ment but the idea of adding a turbo to an electric engine was hilarious!
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post Mar 25 2010, 05:21 PM
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Although there was more material included in Rigger 2 (and then R3), RBB was always fun because of the layout. I liked that SR1 layout on the datapad with comments below each item and a big picture on the top. It wasn't as space efficient as the later books, but it was fun. I do like the hybrid way Arsenal and other books have gone about it (as opposed to the big vehicle tables at the back of R3), but that old layout was fun to read. For price purposes I understand why the change though.
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