What you are missing is that there is no disconnect to clear up; if anything, the disconnect is on your side, not mine... there is no need to roll every dice every time...

Keep the Faith

If you're not rolling dice each and every time, you're incorporating house rules. Which is fine, as long as you're having fun. Just don't try and pretend like it's anything other than a house rule.

Oh, and BTW? I'm agnostic. Please stop adding lines pertaining to "faith" which have no relation to the post, I find it offensive.

Whatever Cain... You really should just sit back and relax then... Your views of what constitute Houserules are just way out there... you're entitled, of course, but obviously not everyone agrees with you...

Just Sayin'

And Faith does not always refer to Religion... in this case, it refers to keeping the Faith with Shadowrun...
In other words... Keep on Playing...

Not really. This is a standard, accepted definition.

All I'm saying is, have fun! Just don't say that you're having fun with the RAW when you've obviously got a fast-and-loose playstyle.

Sorry...

I play the RAW, Just not your RAW...

Keep the Faith

Ask Toturi. There's only one RAW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Look, there's nothing wrong with a fast-and-loose playstyle. In the hands of the right GM, it can be a lot of fun. So I'm not insulting or flaming you when I say you have a fast-and-loose playstyle. You are not playing by RAW, though, and definitely not playing by RAW according to Toturi standards. That's all I'm saying.

I get it... I am not offended in any way actually, It just seems that you (and Totrui, though he is still probably the MOST RAW GM I have known)... It is just that we have different interpretations of what actually makes the RAW... like I said, we do use the rules, in the way they are written even, but no where in the rules does it say that the GM/Players MUST roll ALL applicable dicerolls, especailly if the action that is demanding the roll does not happen to even concern the characters... (DO you roll every Drone in teh city as your character's drive along? I would be willing to bet that you don't)...

The way you come across on this is that EVERY SINGLE ROLL, regardless of intent or location, MUST BE ROLLED... which is simply not the case... in some cases. things can just be ignored (No Roll), can Be abstracted (Auto Buy of Successes 1/4) and Actual Dice Rolling (Standard Dice Rolls). The game system allows all of those, and does not demand that all rolls that can be made Must be made... That is where my disagreement cwith your interpretation omes into play... I do not agree with that assessment... even if I don't roll the dice, it does not mean that I have deviated from the rules

Anyways... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

Keep the Faith

By RAW, every single roll must be rolled. Buying successes is an optional rule. In the rules, it says that every last member of chase combat must make a Handling roll, no matter what their situation is. In combat, every last dice roll must be made, according to RAW.

Does this make for a better game? I certainly don't think so. But is it RAW? Yes.

Now, I'm going to err on the side of a better game. I think you would as well. Just don't advertise what you're doing as RAW, since it seems you have a very fast-and-loose play style. You don't use all the rules, all the time, which is what constitutes the RAW. And IMO, it makes for a better game. Do you disagree?

SR4A Page 60.

If you know in advance that a certain outcome would be
more dramatic or amusing than what you are likely to roll, then don’t
bother to roll. When the rules get in the way of the story, ignore the
rules and tell the story.

Sounds like RAW to me.

Don't have SR4.5 handy, but IIRC that's in a section titled "The abstract nature of rules". In other words, an optional fluff section. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Yeah... Except when it comes to Missions... Then you can't even use any of the pages of optional rules presented in the core book. Providing your running a Mission at an event and not at home.
Oh and my advise for a high powered game TAKE THE SKILL CAPS OFF (or at leased double them)

Dont worry, I understand where both of you are coming from, just wanted to throw a different perspective out there.