QUOTE (Karoline @ Aug 4 2010, 11:45 PM)

Edit2: Yeah, you stacked recoil mods that can't be stacked with each other. Gyromount is incompatible with both sling and foregrip. You have 2 internal, 3 gas vent, and 3 from gyromount. Need to knock off another 2 dice from the initial attack, not that it changes anything since both were misses anyway.

It changes on the reroll: the 2 dice less should carry on, and those are 2 hits.

Oh yeah, was thinking about the reroll wrong. Well, on the bright side at a -11 to dodge, there is a decent chance you'll tag something, and you actually managed to do enough damage to break an F6 spirit's armor without a sniper rifle or SnS rounds (Unless it gets really lucky)

Cyberarm Gyromount isn't listed in the arsenal compatibility section. Only thing its description says it's incompatable with is a regular Gyromount. But I guess we can call it a -3 if you don't like Strength-assisted RC too. I'll have to break out the stock next time I get an action.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

Anyway, I forgot my +1 bonus from Sync, so that should be in there as well.
[edit: oops. NVM. Sync would only matter if I was attacking the spirit.]

QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Aug 4 2010, 11:30 PM)

(if you want to call cover, we could treat this like two long bursts at -5 each, for you and inky since you're in 1 meter of each other..)

Can't do that now, since it is not what you announced. I will just use good cover and the spirit immunity will protect from collateral damage since he is not the target. So we settle on 8 hits? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Reaction 11
Wide burst -11
Good Cover +4
Wound -1
Total 3
Dodge (3d6.hits(5)=1)

DV:13P
Body 3, armor 9
Total 12
Bullet Soak (12d6.hits(5)=5)
Suffers 8P, is 1 into overflow. It is the end of the Mad Hatter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) But he can still waste the sacrifice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So definitely, Edge refreshing between fights is mandatory.

Yeah.. otherwise, the revolving-door thing is going to be an issue.

I'll still start next fight with 2+1 edge though. I wanna duke it out. Anyway...

Not till he actually dies (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

"A gun and a spirit? If I'd wanted this I would have watched a Trid."

The Mad Hatter Falls!

The crowd isn't too happy about this one. After watching the Champion, GORK, put to sleep, only to have his HEART cut out of his chest in reverence of the great Tezcatlipoca, He by whom we live, we are treated to an exhibition in HIDING and GUNPLAY! Oh, and what's this? Azeri is walking up to the bleeding Pixie. His right arm just shot out! Plunging metal spikes through his downed foe! And he's... he's thrown him up into the back retaining wall with surprising ease!

Now he's shooting him! He's shooting him and, what's this?! He seems to be spraying his name into the back wall, with BULLETS!! D... A... I... M... _{Wait.. I don't think that's how dime is supposed to be spelled..}

Artisan test 2 skill + 6 Int = [2 hits] It's.. an okay tag.

Ha-ha-ha motherfuckers. I may look like I'm ten, but I go up to eleven!

What a disgrace... Someone needs to put this kid in his place..

+2 Karma

An elven woman stands up from the crowd.

"It's a shame, Gork at least put on a good show. I may not be able to match his showmanship, but I can match his bloodlust." As she speaks, her hair shifts from blond to a light brunet, and ends with a red tinge to it. Her last word carries a chill to it that causes many to give a shiver. She seems to radiate a palpable aura that should be feared.

She steps into the ring, taking from each hip a small metal rod about 4 inches in length.

"Now, why don't you put that toy away and fight like a man." she says, finishing the last word with a grin, her hair turning a deep red, and seeming to radiate another chill. She moves her weight to her back leg, arms forward and out some, elbows bent, an obvious defensive stance. "You first." As she waits, her hair loses some of its red, slowly gaining blond highlights.

Starting the battle in full defensive.

Init (10d6.hits(5)=3) Final Init: 13

"Hahaha, 'Why don't I put it away?' Because it's still hot as fuck!"
He opens the rear breach mechanism with his metal hand, pulling out a caseless magazine, partially melted near where it met the weapon's receiver. "Come on over, an I'll let ya touch it..." Stupid grin on his face, he wags the mag a couple of times before dropping it into the dirt and pulling a second one from behind his back. He blows once into the breach and slides the new mag home, closing it up in a slow, deliberate manner. "Just some insurance." He pulls the foldable stock out, "If you start flying or some shit.." clicks off the spinning gyro weights on his arm and stows the weapon on his back.

"In case you missed the writing on the wall, the name is DAIM, like Daimler-Benz. Built to last."
He stands square shouldered.
"And you are?"

The newcomer holds her ground as Diam reloads his weapon, her hair now fully blond.

"Yeah yeah, I got it dime, you don't feel safe without your blanky. Don't worry, I only play tricks on tricksters. As for me..." she pauses, spinning on the spot. A weight detaches from the end of one of the rods, and a thin glint of metal can be seen, a line connecting weight and rod. She swings it around in a smooth, controlled motion, the weight passing behind one of the skull racks, and appearing on the other side. With a slight 'hiss' the line can be heard being rewound into the rod, the weight snapping into place. "I'm called Whiplash." Dramatically the skull rack collapses, an entire row of skulls cleanly cut in half along with the supports.

Intimidation to try and shake Diam.
Charisma 4
Intimidation (Mental) 3
Nasty Vibe 3
Wielding a Weapon 2
Total: 12
Intimidation (12d6.hits(5)=3)

The crowd at least seems to enjoy the display, letting out a cheer as the rack crumples to the ground. "Whiplash Whiplash Whiplash!"

Willpower 7 + 1 Daredrenaline + 2 oblivious to danger (Thrill-Seeker with Daredrenaline) - 1 defaulting = [2 hits]

"Ooooh... you're making me ~*tingle*~ all over.." His eyes light up and go wild.

Initiative: 13 + [3 hits] = 16

(New thread?)

Sounds good to me. I'll go ahead and make it since Simon is busy having fun at Gencon or somewhere.

Whiplash is in full defensive, and you have the first move

Cool, I'm going to have to hold off posting until later though. I've been up 28 hours now and am only still around since I got over-caffeinated for my patho exam.

Are you just pre-emptively using an Interrupt full defense, or is this a surprise defense instead of a surprise attack? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

It basically runs on the theory that even though no one was tracking them, combat turns still passed while we were having our verbal banter, and Whiplash simply used the last turn before anything happens to go on full defense (which lasts until her next action). In other words she is continually using full defense option until you do something, so she'll still have her turn after you attack.

Starting in full dodge is pretty bunk. Count it as a spent point of Edge maybe? Otherwise it's free dice which is quite lame on a skill + atr vs. skill + skill + atr test. This doesn't need to turn into a contest as to who can delay their actions the longest. :-\

Where's your Bloodlust!

DERP: Almost forgot. If a Dodge bonus is to the skill itself, like MBW, Reflex Recorder or and Adept's Increased Skill power, does that count twice on a full dodge? I figure something like a MA bonus to Melee Dodge or a specialization ought to only count once, but, direct skill boosts, I'm not so sure about.

She's just starting in a defensive stance. You don't have to attack when you know she is ready for you.

I mean haven't you ever seen a movie with a melee fight in it before? One person nearly always starts on the defensive.

If it is to the skill itself, and thus capped by natural skill rating x 1.5, then yeah, it goes into both tests. So reflex recorder to dodge and adept powers to dodge and MBW to dodge would all count twice.

"Less whining, more fighting!"

It is fighting. Just not a fight you are prepared for.

I'm just expecting a skill of 10 being used to parry, so that's 10 free dice - Brought about by assuming that the slower character controls the pace of combat - Or that combat begins before engagement. Neither of those things is accurate. If a character wants to begin the combat on full defense, regardless of lower initiative, there's a rule for that. It's called an Interrupt action.

Otherwise, it's like your just jumping around for no reason or, more likely, just spinning the monowhips madly... which brings up images of Indiana Jones to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It isn't an assumption that the slower character controls the pace of combat, it is an assumption that time exists before combat beings, which it does. There is no rule that says that you must attack every turn and there are no other options in the game. You could not attack.

And really, its more like she's sitting back in a defensive stance, ready for you to attack. Nothing in the books says that a full defense means that you are actively doing anything to not get hit, since you can take one before there is anyone attacking you.

But, you know, if it is such a big deal to you that someone can start in a defensive position, then I won't do it.

Dude, you're making an ass of yourself. Really.

No. I totally believe that you can start in a defensive position, I just believe that it is your first combat action, not your 0th action. It is up to you (and your edge) to take the momentum.




That means a lot from a guy who made a broken ass pixie dodge monkey mage for a cybernetic pit-fight thread, just to prove that he shouldn't be allowed to... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

"Ahh, but isn't that the very point of a pit-fight? There are no rules to Sangre y Acero, until we make them. We point to an interpenetration of the rules and let our capers and showmanship be our arguments. The fighters and the blood thirsty crowd determine what will govern here beneath the altar. Let the broken nature of our gladiators be our pride and the pitiless insults of the crowd be our guiding light."

So, Simon, redlining a cyberlimb? Yes or no?

(see augmentation p44)