The Plot of IW was fine, I didn't actually think the story was too bad. My annoyance with the game was it took the great foundations of its first version, and then ...hell...I don't quite know how to describe it, went a completely different route.

In hindsight, if they didn't try at ALL to link it to Deus Ex, it could have been a good game on its own, a nice little cyberpunkish game in a vastly open market, while we got a Deus Ex 2 that built on the strengths of the 1st game.

Its risky changing format of a game series. It doesn't always work out. Fallout did it (my opinion) surprisingly well. COnsidering how fanatic I was about the first 2, I took the change to a FPS RPG rather well, enjoyed it, and am looking forward to New Vegas. Farcry on the other hand, didn't do so well. 1st game was awesome, 2nd game was...wtf...third game became crysis and I was happy again, once I had a rig that could actually yknow...play it.

This new DX game looks like its changing things up yet again. As I mentioned in a earlier post, the gameplay clips make me think Chronicles of Riddick escape from Butcher's bay, which I liked, so I'm willing to roll with. But if this version doesn't do well, I'm not so sure about the series continuing, cause it'll have changed format so many times that people don't care.

heh, seems IW have the same problem as CP3 have. Its a ok game on its own, but being linked to something that for some are a genre defining game makes it a stinker.

as DX3 will be a console game (with a pc port) i suspect much of the fancy moves happens on the press of a "fancy move" button.

My money's on assignable buttons, chosen from a dropdown menu. Hold on a minute...

@Xahn : While I won't say I liked IW more than the original, I have to admit I enjoyed it and I prefer IW's combat to Deus Ex.

I will note that after thoroughly enjoying Assassin's Creed 2 I have no problem with the utilization of a contextual "fancy move" button.

If I can stand next to a wall, tap said button and punch someone to death on the other side... I'm okay with that.

I've got the impression that fancy moves are purchasable as augmentations. I.e. You buy your stabbing mod, your catching-grenades aug, your grappling hook arm mod. I just hope there's enough fancy moves to keep a level of variety. I could definitely get bored of pressing my context sensitive button every time I'm behind a mook who doesn't know I'm there.

I'm... highly dubious of that video, even with the news report (Which I will need to borrow someone's computer to hear, stupid sound) to back it up. It seems to have the magical ability to know what it is and isn't supposed to hide.

I won't go into how it seems to defy physics, because I don't know how it operates and don't know physics well enough. I will say however that while bending light is possible, it generally requires a sun or black hole. I'll have to watch those with sound and see if there is any explanation of how it functions.

P.S. way more willing to believe the rain jacket than the sphere/block which I am willing to believe more than the mirror.

Edit:

That explains it. The entire time I was sitting there thinking "It looks so much like they're just standing in front of a projector." So yeah, that doesn't have any sort of real spy type application if you have to set up some big projector to use it. So yeah, Physics obeyed.

The upshot is that they hope to eventually replace the projector with actual video display fabric, when that tech becomes more developed.

The final results are less likely to be an "invisibility cloak" than a really effective method of breaking up your silhouette, which is really what optical camouflage is all about.



-karma

Well, she's on very thin ice. Cookie-flavoured cookie machine for reference.

Mm. I want to do the same thing with Katie as I would with cookies. Sorta.

Pure poppycock.

Eh. When it comes to petite, pixieish women, I call dibs on Kristin Chenoweth. Rowr.

So no one can imagine that report above to a TUNE? As though she was AUTOmatically singing it?

Fallout 3 held the fallout universe up as much as the 360/PC Shadowrun game held up the Shadowrun universe. So please don't go that route.

Heh, I'd have thought on this forum someone would mention Misty Mundae.

How can you say that? All of the equipment in Fallout 3 matched (in regards to type and capabilities) the equipment from 1 & 2. The locations seem to match, thematically. The races translated over fine. The only thing that might be questionable is that the Brotherhood of Steel is a nation-spanning organization. As opposed to the Shadowrun game which actively violated the core rules of magic, violated the timeline, and violated its fans.

How every the Brotherhood of Steel has semi canonically sent out groups feather afield than the west cost before Fallout 3. So it's not completely out there plus they have been out of contact for a while to say the least. Also both factions east cost are quite different from the West coast BoS (well they are to too competing ideologies after a schism; I recall hints of that kind of split goal in 1&2 it's certainly there in the tactics game that is slightly less cannon).

But yes the latest Shadowrun game is really rather badly done as a Shadowrun game it was a "Oh shit so much cannon FUCK IT ALL!" reaction they said it them selves though in nice terms.

For me this new Deus Ex is a god sent. The game hasn't exactly...aged well graphics wise. Now don't get me wrong it's still fun but unlike 8 bit or cell shaded graphics which even when their old still kinda keep their charm these early attempts at graphics actually make my eyes hurt and I can't play them for long before I have to go rest them. Even if this game ends up being a clone of the first Deus Ex with better graphics I won't complain because now I can play it without pain.

They actually tried to give an excuse? As though that would make it all better?

I dunno, man. Warren Spector grew up in New York City and Deus Ex still has the best and most atmospheric NYC I've ever seen in a game. I get all emotional and nostalgic over NYC when I play Deus Ex.

I still love that game.

"I wanted orhange, it gave me lemon lime."

"It's the maintenance man, he knows I like orhange."

Funny enough I just moved to Brooklyn for school and am now looking for a new Shadowrun group. It's not that it isn't good, it's just my eyes hurt when i look at it for too long. A problem I have with all games with those graphics so it's nothing against Deus Ex. Damn, I want this to come out soon so I can enjoy it for as long as possible.

I guess it's time to once again complain about Deus Ex's lack of dynamic lighting. I don't know how many times I drowned in some remote corner of a flooded tunnel because the artists didn't put in "lit" textures, making my eye-lights useless for finding my way back out.

~J

Want some new trailers? Sure you do.

A New Man trailer

Phoenix Trailer (Japanese)

It doesn't even have to be a video game. They could just make this into a movie, and I'd buy it.

Humanity plus cubed, ouch.

Love their spider-style riot control robot.