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 Oct 12 2006, 12:00 AM
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Immoral Elf  Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486  |
And in my games, I am the GM, and that would be my answer. ;)
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Oct 12 2006, 12:12 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
So, it's okay for a player to be able to shoot fire out of his ass, but "it's magic" isn't a good enough explanation for how he can stick to wet walls? What the hell?
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Oct 12 2006, 12:20 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
There's no mention there of slickness, only that if you are separated, you fall. In this case, it's not friction, it's not stickyness. It's some mystical quality of connection. So I'd say the Adept power would mirror that, and be a higher level of climbing than the gloves. Gecko Crawl lets you simply walk, not crawl, as well. |
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Oct 12 2006, 12:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,895 |
Hmm for an adept power (2 point or 1 point with wall crawl). I also would chose to duplicate the spell
As quoted before IT SPECIFICALLY states you CAN us it on 'slick' surfaces. "THE GAMEMASTER MAY REQUIRE CLIMBING TESTS IN ORDER FOR THE SUBJECT TO CLIMB ESPECIALLY SLICK SURFACES" Makes it pretty clear 'normal' slick surfaces would be no problem. (if only especially slick require checks). So a 'wet' wall no problem. Crawling up a ice covered waterfall, likely would.. Likewise if somebody sprays the surface you climbing on with silicon lubricate you likely will be making a test.... Gecko Crawl does NOT allow you to climb however on surfaces that would not support you. Sure you can 'stick' to that wet piece of glass. but if that wet pieces of glass is designed to hold 30kg and you are pushing over 100kg with gear, you and that piece of glass take a nice fall. Gecko crawl (and to me by extension a power based on it) does not 'nullify' gravity. Rather it makes a supernatural attraction between you and whatever object you are touching. You will not come off that object... HOWEVER, that object might come off what it is attached to. An inch of water on something and you can still grip the 'rock' (or whatever) under it. However, If you try to climb the 'false' ceiling in most office building you and that fibreglass insulation tile are going to be falling down. Peace |
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Oct 12 2006, 01:06 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
which begs the question of how well you hang on to it. As in, what would you roll if a troll tried to yank you off the wall. For the spell, I'd say force = strength. adept power though?
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Oct 12 2006, 01:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Typically it seems that magic replaces force.
So strength = Magic. |
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Oct 12 2006, 04:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 4-September 06 Member No.: 9,304 |
I think I would use which ever is lower, Strength or Force.
Reason being that it could cause you serious harm if the troll tried to rip you off the wall, and only the magic kept you there. I could see torn ligaments, limbs torn off (at the extreme end), etc.. |
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Oct 12 2006, 08:51 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 28-March 06 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 8,411 |
Is there? Haven't found it in the book, can you give me a page ref? But still would like to have it as an innate power. Nobody expects someone walking/crawling over the ceiling :) |
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Oct 13 2006, 08:10 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,414 |
SR4, Under Survival Gear, page 327. "Gecko Tape Gloves: these gloves are made of a special dry adhesive that incorporates millions of fine microscopic hairs that bonds to other surfaces. Individually these bonding forcesa re insignificant, but when combined, they are strong enough to stick a troll upside-down to the ceiling. Gecko tape gloves come as a set that includes glvoes, knee-pads, and slip-on soles. A character using them is treated as if it were perfoming assisted climbing (see p. 115). These gloves are useless when wet." Gecko Tape Gloves and the Gecko Crawl are not the same effect in my mind. It's easy to get confused though. I mean, both mention geckos... ;) |
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Oct 13 2006, 01:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 28-March 06 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 8,411 |
Thnx, got it! Still have to consult my dm what he thinks about it. |
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