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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422  |
More details on Interacial relationships period. Its a global setting White, Hispanic, and black people would probably be a minority but present none the less. How is HK differant from the rest of China is what I wanna know and the big question you might want to look into. |
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Jan 30 2007, 05:44 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
It's really not a major topic for Hong Kong in 2070. As Runner Havens mentions, Hongkongers are more comfortable around native Chinese, but because the city is so international, they have few hang-ups dealing with people of other races and nationalities. There aren't really any white, black, or Hispanic racial enclaves in the city. There are expatriate areas (such as Stanley) but those are usually a mix of all types of expatriates.
It's hard to answer that question without detailing the rest of China, which I definitely do not have the time to do. Shadows of Asia is a good source of information on the other Chinese nation-states, and once you know how those operate, the differences start to come out. There are some obvious differences between Hong Kong and the rest of China. First, Hong Kong is a corporate-run enclave. Second, it is a very international city, whereas the rest of the Chinese nation-states tend to be more isolationalist (with the possible exception of the Canton Confederation). Third, Hong Kong is a wealthy city. By comparison, the other Chinese nation-states are struggling. The rest of China was wracked by war for a long time, while Hong Kong was thriving on a Japanese-fueled economic bubble. |
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Jan 30 2007, 06:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
And thats all you need to say in your write up. :D
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Jan 30 2007, 07:02 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
The people of Hong Kong eat a variety of things. There's a lot of different ethnic food (Indian food, Japanese food, French, Korean bbq, you name it) that would sit next to a traditional style chinese restaurant that's across the street from a McDonald's (or Wendy's, etc...) Plus, there's the fusion type restaurants. The cuisine will have fads and such of foods from other countries, a few decades ago, it was all the rage for this soup, Russian soup, basically a hearty vegetable soup. They also have the equivalent of a diner type restaurant that's everywhere. You can order a meal with lots of rice and a drink for a very cheap price. Lots of meat and veggies. Food can be very cheap in Hong Kong, it's just that rooming accomodations itself is expensive. Yes, they speak english there with the british accent, usually it's for business. There are four main television stations, two are in english, two are in chinese, but that was back in '99, and yes the english stations have a lot of programming that are ones with british accents, though some shows are from Australia and such I think, and then there's the American shows too (don't forget Babewatch :-P). But what timeline are you asking about because currently with the takeover by China, mandarin chinese is now more pronounced, they use it for the administrative affairs for government and with the rise of the Chinese economy on the mainland, there's more reason for folks to use mandarin. However, the local dialect, Cantonese, is still the main language spoken by most of the population. There also several other dialects depending of who's emigrated to the city. The province of Guangzhou, while the main local dialect is Cantonese, hosts many other dialects (some villages being in remote areas will have variations on their local spoken language). What unifies them is that they all use the same written characters. Mystical relations? There's the host of buddhist temples and such throughout the area. There's even a large statue of buddha on this island located nearby (it's mentioned in the Runner's Haven book, I've never been to it *grumble*). What are you asking about? To tibet? It depends, because there are a variety of different sects within the Buddhist religion also. There's also taoist priests and the host of other religions, there's some rather old churches in Hong Kong too.
Well, that's interesting, Hong Kong did note the increase in crime and such after the opening of the borders to mainland China for awhile after reunification with China. There's actually some stereotypes and prejudices between those of Hong Kong and those from the Mainland. But for RL timeline with the rise of the economy of China, the attitudes have changed in some regards, though there some tensions because of different views of society and politeness (like spitting in public) between those of Hong Kong and mainland China. Would it be that in the Shadowrun timeline that these differences are even more pronounced since the rest of China is broken up, coupled with lots of tension and strife that the folks there have a very different attitude on life and such. When they arrive/visit Hong Kong, the folks there would be put off by what they perceive as being rude or backwards. The visitors would in return see Hong Kong residents as being arrogant, materialistic and greedy folks. (Actually in RL there's an attitude by those from the Mainland that those who are from Guangzhou are greedy, materialistic folks, my sister got that attitude from some lady who's originally from Beijing). |
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Jan 30 2007, 07:47 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
Interesting Demographic fact, probably not relevant to 2070 HK.
Not so long ago over 50 percent of the population of Hong Kong was under 18. This has an enormous impact. |
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Jan 30 2007, 08:22 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Maybe, maybe not, but it's good to know so you can possibly what might be different from the alternate timeline and such. But if you know what the base mentality is, it may help predict how it'll be in the 2070 HK.
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Jan 30 2007, 08:40 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Actually, bad me, I definitely mistyped there. I should have said that Hongkongers feel more comfortable with native Hongkongers, not with native Chinese. There are slight prejudices against anyone not from Hong Kong, whether it is someone from Beijing or someone from Seattle. In general, a human resident of Hong Kong will feel more in common with a troll from Hong Kong than he will with another human from Beijing. Unlike Seattle, metahuman prejudice isn't common in Hong Kong, instead it is based on whether you are from out of town or not. That said, Hongkongers are not xenophobic. They may look slightly down upon people from elsewhere, but that will not stop a Hongkonger from doing business with them. |
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Feb 1 2007, 08:00 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
I intended to reply to this post before and I somehow forgot. That overlay is very nice! I have a solid idea where all the individual locations from RH are in Hong Kong, so if I can figure out how to edit overlays and add those locations, I could do that at some point. |
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Apr 26 2007, 11:16 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Wouldn't mind some extra information on the local prison system for when things really go pear shaped or if you want to set a game in them. :)
Now from what I've read Hong Kong's prison system seems to actually be pretty good, well it gets a good write-up from the usual suspects of international campaigning groups at least. But of course that doesn't fit with the whole dystopian world thing Shadowrun has going, so with HK becoming a corporate town I figure that would be one of the first departments to be farmed out to private corporations for a fee so you can almost guarantee standards will drop like a stone. Hell, with all the private corp prisons already mentioned in canon I could see them shipping the long term prisoners off the the Philippines or somewhere in mainland China. Edit: Knew I'd remembered seeing something about this. Seems the Legco floated the idea a few years back about building a single large super prison to replace all the other seperate sites on Hei Ling Chau island. Lots of people got up in arms about it though so it never went through, makes an interesting idea at the least. |
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Apr 27 2007, 06:11 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
heh, speaking of prisons, there's a local prison on the road in Kowloon on the road to Saikung, located in a moutain pass. I see it whenever I visit HK as I go to Saikung. For the most part, most of Kowloon peninsula is rather rural (relatively) with lots of space especially on the mountainous area which would be ideal for additional prison facilities.
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