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[Xahn Borealis]

Or impact armour?

[Mongoose]

Also: Am I reading "Adiposis" right? ANY physical activity gains a -3 dice pool modifier?

Yep. Pretty much everything Enhanced Articulation gives a bonus to, it gives a penalty to. Not only is moving more difficult (poor balance, discomfort) but in her case she's literally got trouble using her arms to manipulate things in front of her. You might ignore the penalty for some AR tasks, since you could configure the controls for minimal mobility / range of motion, but chances are she's gonna prefer VR tasks (and social rolls, etc- non physical rolls). (And no, there's no bonus to swimming. Swimming takes endurance, which she lacks in spades. However, there' are swimming adjustments for body type, so those would apply.)

Honestly, if being "taken seriously" is her goal, why doesn't she just go for an immersion lifestyle? Nobody knows you're Barbie in the matrix (unless you pick that as your avatar, which probably a lot of folks do).

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Yep. Pretty much everything Enhanced Articulation gives a bonus to, it gives a penalty to. Not only is moving more difficult (poor balance, discomfort) but in her case she's literally got trouble using her arms to manipulate things in front of her. You might ignore the penalty for some AR tasks, since you could configure the controls for minimal mobility / range of motion, but chances are she's gonna prefer VR tasks (and social rolls, etc- non physical rolls). (And no, there's no bonus to swimming. Swimming takes endurance, which she lacks in spades. However, there' are swimming adjustments for body type, so those would apply.)

Honestly, if being "taken seriously" is her goal, why doesn't she just go for an immersion lifestyle? Nobody knows you're Barbie in the matrix (unless you pick that as your avatar, which probably a lot of folks do).

Don't forget that Combat is also going to be penalized... look at the description of the Quality (it includes combat specifically)... it does not apply to Physical Skills, but to physical skills (anything with a physical skill link)

As for being in an Immersion Lifestyle, A Negative Quality that is not a drawback (has no impact on the character) should not be allowed... If you are always in the matrix, then the quality is just free points. From the way it sounded, she is looking forward to the challenges that the quality is going to impose upon her.

Keep the Faith

[HentaiZonga]

Yep. Pretty much everything Enhanced Articulation gives a bonus to, it gives a penalty to. Not only is moving more difficult (poor balance, discomfort) but in her case she's literally got trouble using her arms to manipulate things in front of her. You might ignore the penalty for some AR tasks, since you could configure the controls for minimal mobility / range of motion, but chances are she's gonna prefer VR tasks (and social rolls, etc- non physical rolls). (And no, there's no bonus to swimming. Swimming takes endurance, which she lacks in spades. However, there' are swimming adjustments for body type, so those would apply.)

Honestly, if being "taken seriously" is her goal, why doesn't she just go for an immersion lifestyle? Nobody knows you're Barbie in the matrix (unless you pick that as your avatar, which probably a lot of folks do).

Well, having played through the first game, I'm definitely going for a "serious" interpretation - which the rest of the players are having an interesting time trying to deal with.

Felicity Ambrose - aka "Trixi Juggs" (current stage name, still working on a shadow name) - changeling social adept.
John Manyard - aka "Lips" - troll samurai.
Parson Walkenber - aka "Panther" - the human infiltration expert.
Wilson Smith - aka "Blitz" - dwarf hacker

Lips has a mission he just picked up, and needs to put a team together. He knows he'll need reconnaissance assets, and that he's being hired for his professionalism. He's meeting the Johnson tonight to get the full details.

Felicity just found out that she needs another 180,000 nuyen to cover surgery and gene therapy to fix her condition, and has decided that there's no way she's going to get that legally. She answered Lips' ad, and is intending to pretend to be a shadowrunner to get an "in" to the biz.

Blitz and Panther are bored, and answered the ad so they could blow stuff up.

They arranged to meet at the strip joint where Felicity works; Lips and Panther played "face" while Felicity, on-the-clock, distracted the hell out of him and got him to slip up what the run was actually about. Meanwhile, Blitz hacked into the Johnson's commlink while he was distracted, and did some digging in the corporate network. Turns out they're being paid to find and kill employee's son that got kidnapped by an eco-terrorist gang, before the police find him and return him "safe and sound". The Johnson's trying to make it out to just be a "hit this eco-terrorist gang with as much firepower as you can muster, to let them know to not mess with our assets".

After taking the mission, they get into an in-character argument about how to handle things. Felicity wants to rescue the kid and find out why the corp wants him killed instead of returned; Blitz and Panther just want to geek everybody, get the money and call it good. Felicity and Panther get into a shouting match over the value of human life, while Blitz showers Felicity with crude sexual innuendo.

Then Felicity turns on Attribute Boost (Strength) and breaks Blitz's nose and all the fingers on his left hand, and Lips reminds everyone of the "no wetwork" clause he demanded when he signed onto the team. They all agree to grab the kid alive, and only kill the eco-terrorists if they fight back, and then only in-battle.

So we've already got a great characterization, but a shitty team dynamic - Felicity is the rank, naive newbie; Lips is the seasoned professional; Blitz is the psychotic low-life and Panther is the cold sociopath.

Lips pulls Felicity aside, and explains to her that she's obviously smart and capable, but he's not sure if she's cut out for this line of work. She gives him a VERY sharp, vicious speech about being taken seriously, and rolls an absurd amount of hits on both her Con and her Intimidate rolls (social adept, remember). Lips is impressed, and then tells her that Blitz and Panther are likely to get her killed, and to not trust any decision they make.

Blitz finishes tinkering with the team's van, while Panther finds their hideout and scouts it out. Turns out the kid's gone all Patty Hearst, and is helping them lead attacks on daddy's corporations. Felicity schmoozes some of daddy's corporate buddies, and finds out that he's working on genemod crops, and that his supervisor is PISSED that he's letting family matters get in the way of his productivity. The corp wants his kid to die and his wife to divorce him, so he'll throw himself into his work via grief and "maybe we can all make deadline this quarter".

Panther roughs the kid up, brutally incapacitates him, and drags him back to the hideout, which makes Felicity LIVID. They contract a street mage to come heal the kid up, blowing all their advance money doing so. The kid comes to and gets grabby with Felicity, which Blitz finds absolutely fucking HILARIOUS.

Felicity fumes that she can't beat the shit out of the kid, so she beats the shit out of Blitz again for laughing. Then Lips calls the kid's dad, and tells him to come to Felicity's night-club for information about his son.

Lips and Felicity negotiate with the dad that night - they explain that they were paid by the dad's corporation to kill the kid, but they don't do that kind of work; they can get him the kid, but they need to eat, and offer to hand him over in exchange for the Johnson's original offer. Once he gets over the fact that he's talking to an absurd-looking stripper, Felicity is VERY persuasive.

The money and package change hands, everyone gets paid, and no one dies. Then Blitz and Panther inform me that, while Felicity and Lips were making the deal, they went ahead and attacked the eco-terrorists. Felicity panics, and Lips burns with a cold rage. They race to the scene on Lips' bike, to find that Blitz and Panther wiped out the whole gang. Lips pulls out a pistol and coldly kills Blitz and Panther, the players freak out a little, and then Felicity and Lips plant the Johnson's calling-card on Panther, torch the place, and call the Johnson to let them know the job's done.

Felicity is confused that Lips just *killed* two of their teammates, especially since he doesn't do wetwork. Lips explains that he was putting down two rabid animals who had already murdered, and to never let anyone like that loose on the streets. Then they ditch the gun and call the cops anonymously.

We then sit down as players, and discuss the kind of characters that Felicity and Lips' players want to play with, and the kind they DON'T. It goes surprisingly well.

[Ravennus]

Holy crap.

PvP in the first session, ending with one of the characters ganking the other two? And the session ended 'suprisingly well'??

Wow....

[Stahlseele]

*shrugs*
i am regularly this close to killing one to 4 team members . .
i usually get one of the other players or characters to talk me out of it <.<

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Well, having played through the first game, I'm definitely going for a "serious" interpretation - which the rest of the players are having an interesting time trying to deal with.

Felicity Ambrose - aka "Trixi Juggs" (current stage name, still working on a shadow name) - changeling social adept.
John Manyard - aka "Lips" - troll samurai.
Parson Walkenber - aka "Panther" - the human infiltration expert.
Wilson Smith - aka "Blitz" - dwarf hacker

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We then sit down as players, and discuss the kind of characters that Felicity and Lips' players want to play with, and the kind they DON'T. It goes surprisingly well.

Now That is totally awesome... Way to go...

Keep the Faith

[Xahn Borealis]

Did you get payed by Johnson for torching the place too?

[Nifft]

We then sit down as players, and discuss the kind of characters that Felicity and Lips' players want to play with, and the kind they DON'T. It goes surprisingly well.

You know, I'm usually vehemently anti-PvP, but that's only because I don't think I could be mature about my PC getting murdered by the other PCs -- and I project this personal trait onto everyone else.

If your players can see their PCs get shot in-character and not hold it against the other players, then more power to you all!

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Did you get payed by Johnson for torching the place too?

Indeed... Double Dipping is good if you can indeed pull it off...

Keep the Faith

[Ravennus]

We then sit down as players, and discuss the kind of characters that Felicity and Lips' players want to play with, and the kind they DON'T. It goes surprisingly well.

See, and I would have thought the players (and GM) would have had this conversation BEFORE the game, lol. Not being critical... just an interested observation.

Also, it sounds like the players of Felicity and Lips have a lot more power than the other two players if they can dictate to them what kind of characters they can play.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If the Felicity/Lips players have a lot more history RPing with you, and the other two players are new to the group, that might make sense.
Also... if 'Felicity' and 'Lips' spent a lot more time on their back story and already talked to you about their characters and the type of game they wanted to play, then it is understandable that they would have more say over things.
It doesn't sound like the other two players spent much time developing their characters, or they might have been more upset.


Either way, it sounds like the two ganked players handled the consequences of their actions extremely well and that everyone had fun. Very cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Saint Sithney]

You.. you do realize that 180 inch chest means that her mams are both over two feet in diameter?

She would need a robot to carry them around for her....

[Stahlseele]

Or the Troll could do it from behind, with his 2 meter long Arms . .
kinda like this: http://fullmoonmasks.com/library/accessory-bra-hands.jpg

[HentaiZonga]

Did you get payed by Johnson for torching the place too?

Yes they did, because that's the kind of GM I am.

And the PVP thing, at this point, has turned into an almost running gag. I have 3 or 4 players who like involved stories, deep characters, and lots of plot.

I also have two players that like blowing shit up, playing "Grand Theft Auto with dice", and being general dicks.

They've been asked to tone it down, and told by the other players that casual sociopathy will no longer be rewarded.

They have less power in the game because I'm the GM, and *I* don't like their play-style, either - even though I cater to it a little bit, because I want everyone to have fun. I've been waiting for them to come around.

[Xahn Borealis]

Or the Troll could do it from behind, with his 2 meter long Arms . .

I volunteer to be that troll. Oh, does no one else want to do it?

[AStarshipforAnts]

her mams are both over two feet in diameter

Two feet in diameter

Am I the only one completely horrified by this?

[Dumori]

No.

[Saint Sithney]

Two feet in diameter

Am I the only one completely horrified by this?

Actually, I think I did the math wrong. It should be closer to three feet.

Sticking out over a meter past her chest...

[Ravennus]

Yes they did, because that's the kind of GM I am.

And the PVP thing, at this point, has turned into an almost running gag. I have 3 or 4 players who like involved stories, deep characters, and lots of plot.

I also have two players that like blowing shit up, playing "Grand Theft Auto with dice", and being general dicks.

They've been asked to tone it down, and told by the other players that casual sociopathy will no longer be rewarded.

They have less power in the game because I'm the GM, and *I* don't like their play-style, either - even though I cater to it a little bit, because I want everyone to have fun. I've been waiting for them to come around.

Hey Chummer, I'm on your side. I think you are handling it really well and I don't blame you for taking the position you did.
I just find it amazing that the two GTA players have stuck it around and (especially) don't take anything personally.

As you said... now it seems like a running joke, where these two are almost running interference in your game just to keep things interesting for the other players!


Say... have you ever thought of getting these two players to be full-time GM-assistants?
As in.... get them to run some of the NPCs, especially the crazy ones, that the other players go up against?

If handled right, it could let them get their kicks and also be fun for everyone involved. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


The major problem I could see is that they wouldn't be as involved in the roleplaying side of things... but they sound like the kind of players that would be totally cool just hanging out with their friends while playing Gears of War Co-Op, then jumping in whenever the PCs came up against some major opposition.

Another fun idea, if you had the time or someone else willing to Co-GM, would be to have them make their own sociopath runner team that actually competed against the other PCs on a regular basis. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[HentaiZonga]

Actually, I think I did the math wrong. It should be closer to three feet.

Sticking out over a meter past her chest...

Yep, it's clearly physically impossible. She'd weigh over a thousand pounds. At 100", you wind up with half a meter instead of a meter, and 300 lbs instead of 1,000.

Heh.

Math geeks.

[Yerameyahu]

There's adiposis and then there's bad anime. :/

[HentaiZonga]

There's adiposis and then there's bad anime. :/

yep. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm going to go with the 300-lbs option, when figuring out how to apply penalties and effects.

[Yerameyahu]

Honestly, 'normal' adiposis would already give plenty of grotesque enhancement, with a body that matches. *shrug* It's still sexy to someone…

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Honestly, 'normal' adiposis would already give plenty of grotesque enhancement, with a body that matches. *shrug* It's still sexy to someone…

Indeed, otherwise you would not have women who augment up to those ridiculous sizes...

Keep the Faith

[Yerameyahu]

Well, I think you're discounting insanity too quickly, but yes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)