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post Feb 5 2007, 03:49 PM
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o.k. this is my idea. Let me know if you like it so I can start inking.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48095793/

...yep, me again. The flaming runic circles are definitely a nice touch.

...maybe just a little more background, nothing too complex just so she doesn't look so lost on the page.
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post Feb 6 2007, 03:43 AM
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First pencil concept for anubis. I may put a background on Gabryel but it won't be 'till I merge the two drawings together. I'm having a hard time visualizing 'the Dark King' totem though, any suggestions?
The face will come out better in the inking.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48165424/
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post Feb 6 2007, 04:32 AM
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Yeah, I had a hard time with that one too. He doesn't adhere to any real philosophy, so none of the traditional gods really work (and the Egyptian variant is Osiris, besides), and the Dark King isn't an evil totem, neutral if anything. The Grim Reaper was the best I could come up with, so go with that. Dark figure in the background, the cowled Death figure. This is necessary death, not evil death, if that makes any sense. What's there is pretty close, so work off of that.

Only thing that sticks out for Anubis is that his boots don't match. He dresses for the streets, but he doesn't live on them. Other than that, once it's cleaned up with inking it I'd say Anubis is done.
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post Feb 6 2007, 04:44 AM
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already did the boots, I'll let you have a look.
The totem in the background...too evil?
I get what u are saying though, so if the skulls wrong I'll try something different.

btw he will be standing behind gabryel just outside of the circle. which if u can't make out the runes read "To offend the flame is to burn".
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48169085/
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post Feb 6 2007, 04:45 AM
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I think the skull-thing in the background looks pretty cool, for what it's worth.

But for non-evil, Nessessary death? I'd say eliminate the skeleton, and just make it a cowled figure whose features and even body is shrouded in complete shadow.
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post Feb 6 2007, 01:36 PM
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I think SD has it. It's just too menacing for what I had in mind. Cool in its own right, but just doesn't quite fit with the concept I had in mind.

Everything else looks great

*edit*-"To offend the flame is to burn"...you have no idea how apt that is for her. She's a little touchy about certain things. My players will get a huge kick out of that.

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post Feb 6 2007, 04:13 PM
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...so Anubis will be with Gabryel in the same pic. I was wondering, for it looked as if his left hand was cut off the page in the pencil [sketch].

Pretty neat facial expression. Nice to see a more slender, realistic looking male character.
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post Feb 6 2007, 06:59 PM
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You don't become a hulk living a Low lifestyle.

Of course, Alex is living a High, and he's about as close to bishonen as I can stand to get...

Great stuff, I can't wait to see the finished product. Let me know if you want more, I've got enough to keep you in practice for some time.
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post Feb 6 2007, 11:31 PM
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You don't become a hulk living a Low lifestyle.

...I would think you need to be in shape to survive in places like D class neighbourhoods and the barrens. :grinbig:

Seen way to much fan art in my day where everybody looks like they work out at Gold's Gym, even the kids and seniors. Both Holychampion and Squinky are doing some really nice stuff here.
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:48 AM
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...would be fun to see Leela on her rollerblades with something going *boom* behind her & her giggling.


We have got to play a game together...

Last time my character (the only one I haven't listed here, yet) did something like that, we were getting shooed off by security from a van that had two Rottwieler drones in it. So what does Alex do? Shouts "don't look into that van!" as he's walking away.

of course, they looked. Even our Trickster shaman was going "dude, you're cold"

I agree, your action poses are particularly good. Keep it up!

...[emphasis mine]

Yeah, I'm kind of looking for a new group since the current one I have been playing with has dwindled in size and meets sporadically. Unfortunately we are probably on opposite ends of the country (Portland, TT...er Oregon).

I enjoy playing characters that have more "unusual" personal qualities to them. Leela was by far one of my favourites for she looked, sounded, and acted like a 13 year old girl (even though she was nearly 20) but was also a fragging little genius. She could literally "bring the house down" in more ways than one (besides her scientific and demolitions skills she also had a rating of 10 [specialisation] in classical piano).

Of my more recent characters, both KK4.3 and my Cajun boxer "Hurricane" Hannah have been a blast to play. For KK it is the fact that "not all the lights are on upstairs" though she is otherwise very good at what she does (just don't give her anything beyond basic addition and subtraction). The best summation of her is "Bushido Cowgirl".

Hannah is just a rollicking fun character who takes everything in stride with her "bon temps" style while packing a vicious 8DV left cross. Check her pic in Squinky's thread, he captured her personality very well.
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post Feb 7 2007, 04:08 AM
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Close, Chicago (but outside the Wall, I actually work at Zurich North American HQ, hence the location in the profile), so almost opposite ends. Eh, it's only a mountain range...

I know what you mean about unusual qualities in characters, though most of mine leave people asking "why?" (Aside from being a guy that occasionally plays female characters).

Gabryel so far has been the most interesting character to play, even though she's long since been relagated to NPCdom. She's almost got a split personality: earn her trust and she's charming and friendly (almost flirty), get under that and you hit emotional trauma that causes her to lash out when surprised, of course, being raped would do that to you.

Didn't say it was always a pleasant experience, but life can't always be rosy. Makes the characters all that much more interesting, if you can do it right.
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post Feb 7 2007, 05:30 AM
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I'm digging this thread.

I laid eyes on your gallery and checked out some of your colored works. I like a lot of your comic stuff. I hope it wouldn't offend you if I offered advice on coloring in photoshop, nothing special, it's just something that saves me tons of time (although I suck at coloring).

When you scan in a b+w image you can hit Ctrl-M and adjust that to get rid of all the little specks and unerased stuff, I usually have mine in a kind of s shape.

Then go to the channels area, duplicate the blue area. Create a new layer, go to select on the top deally there and select load selection, Blue Copy, click the invert image box and load it up on the new layer. It should have marching lines that you can fill with black, and then you can create a color layer underneath the new line layer, and you can select the areas with the magic wand with the original background layer. It's saved me a ton of time and it keeps those little white areas out. If you have any issues feel free to pm me. I hope this is helpful.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work. I think you said you were going to tone an image in photoshop, I'd love to see that and hear any tips you may have on that subject.
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:01 PM
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Thanks squinky i'll try that. I'm not a great colorist either, pencils is my gig, but the info. u posted looks really helpful, I appreciate that. I really like the work you've been doing and anything going on in this thread is created from the ball you started rolling. I've noticed that you are on break, can't wait 'till you hit it again I have a cat shaman I'd like to see your take on. PM me anytime you have ideas or info.

Cristomeyers: I've come up with something for the Totem I'll post it tonight. Sorry it couldn't be sooner but I have mandatory overtime @ work due to the cold weather and the BMW's inability to handle it, and last night I had Pool league. So as soon as I get back I'll post.
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:36 PM
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great! can't wait to see it.

I probably wouldn't of seen it until today/tonight anyway. Spent most of last night out celebrating since I found out my contract with Zurich is becoming permanent. I finally have a job now.

Cold sucks, especially sub-zero cold. Chicago is one giant ice cube right now (but we're getting into the 20's by the weekend. hooray:sarcasm: )
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post Feb 7 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (cristomeyers)
Close, Chicago (but outside the Wall, I actually work at Zurich North American HQ, hence the location in the profile), so almost opposite ends.  Eh, it's only a mountain range... 
 
I know what you mean about unusual qualities in characters, though most of mine leave people asking "why?"  (Aside from being a guy that occasionally plays female characters).   
 
Gabryel so far has been the most interesting character to play, even though she's long since been relagated to NPCdom.  She's almost got a split personality:  earn her trust and she's charming and friendly (almost flirty), get under that and you hit emotional trauma that causes her to lash out when surprised, of course, being raped would do that to you. 
 
Didn't say it was always a pleasant experience, but life can't always be rosy.  Makes the characters all that much more interesting, if you can do it right.

...man life outside the wall must be nice, those damn long eared galoots walling in our beautiful Portland...

[oops, fell into character there for a moment]

I actually grew up not too far away from you in Milwaukee (the one that's spelled right). Actually have been considering a return visit to the area. Used to make a lot of trips on the old Milwaukee Road Hiawathas to Chicago. I even have a campaign in the works set in my old home town called Suds City Shadows a segment of which is titled Take the Chipheads Bowling (yah der hey).

KK4.3 has a pretty nasty background. For her it was being beaten by her elven father and eventually getting dumped in Portland to fend for herself at the age of 12 because he saw her as a threat to his social advancement in the Tir (she was human). I agree, when done right tragic stories can make for very interesting characters. Kelly (her real name) always was and still is a pretty upbeat person in spite of all that happened to her, though as I alluded to, not "all there" upstairs. We used the uneducated flaw to describe the cognitive disability which was aggravated in part by the mistreatment she received. As a writing exercise I turned her backstory into a narrative work (partially spurred on by one of those the Why would someone become a Shadowrunner? threads).

I too tend to play female characters more often than not due to the lack of them in our the game group. Lately however I may have started a trend for the current team I am running as a GM has three women (played by male players).

OK, back to our regularly scheduled thread...
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post Feb 8 2007, 01:03 AM
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Here he is and hopefully the new image of the Totem works.
I only did the gray tones so that u can see that I'm working on a spectral image as the line art is not that clear.
let me know. Can't wait to put the two images together. :D
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post Feb 8 2007, 01:21 AM
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...not sure which is the updated version: Anubis1 or Anubis2? I like the expression of the spirit in #2, a bit more sinister.
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post Feb 8 2007, 01:39 AM
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ha! sorry forgot to add the link.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48294065/
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post Feb 8 2007, 03:43 AM
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I think this ones better. Ready to ink.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48304015/
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post Feb 8 2007, 03:57 AM
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Perfect. That's a good medium between what was there and what I had in mind. Fits well, like the full shamanic mask is in effect.

Did you get any of my comments on Gabryel? I only ask since I don't think they ever got addressed. Only thing I'm iffy on there is the expression on her face. Looks too terrified. Somewhat nervy fits, but as it stands it's too much.

Either way, can't wait to see the finished product. You've got talent, don't let anyone tell you different.
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post Feb 8 2007, 04:18 AM
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yes i did :D I've made a change to her eyes. I'll start inking tonight. Glad to see you like it. I should have it done tommorrow.
Thanks.
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post Feb 8 2007, 01:32 PM
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Awesome, I'd be on the edge of my seat if that didn't mean I was sitting on my desk.
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QUOTE (holychampion)
I think this ones better. Ready to ink.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48304015/

...not sure which one grabs me more, #3 or #4. Both are very good. I like the extra detail in the spirit on #3 however #4 has a better visual balance
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post Feb 8 2007, 06:07 PM
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I prefer 4. The mentor in the background isn't as overpowering. Strikes me more as a shamantic mask apparition.
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post Feb 9 2007, 01:45 AM
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Here u go. finished 'cause i couldn't wait to put the two together. I personally like this better compared to #3 on the premise of what was described of the Totem.
Either way these two were a treat to draw.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48365640/
Hope u like. :D
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